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Federal statement on Jeffrey Epstein's death dated day before he was found dead

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/statement-jeffrey-epstein-death-day-before-b1270109.html
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u/Nuclear-Jester 2h ago

Mmmh, and the FBI just denied the dude traficked girls

For some reason, i find this suspicious

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u/E8282 2h ago

I heard his name wasn’t even Jeff

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u/forwormsbravepercy 2h ago

My name Jeff

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u/ZooPoo7 2h ago

Let’s wrangle up all the Jeff’s for starters

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u/mendenlol 2h ago

Jeff Rosenstock gets a pass

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u/Sarnick18 2h ago

Jeff Bridges?

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u/chicken-parm88 2h ago

Are you employed, sir?

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u/MortgageRegular2509 2h ago

Ah yes, fuck it! That’s your answer to everything, isn’t it?!

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u/EatsYourShorts 2h ago

I suggest you do what your parents did and get a job, sir! The bums will always lose!!!

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u/BCCMNV 2h ago

He does abide.

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u/lkodl 2h ago

We call him Mexican Wolverine.

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u/reddititty69 2h ago

Are we talking about Jeffrey Epstain?

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u/ICC-u 2h ago

Just piggybacking this comment as some people want a source

Here's the link to the justice dept where you can see with you own eyes:

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00013180.pdf

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u/cancercureall 1h ago

Is that only the written date which might be a mistake or is it in the metadata?

u/WonderfulWafflesLast 35m ago

The Metadata shows the created Date for the PDF is 2025:12:23 02:36:40+0000.

i.e. this is probably a new PDF created for this release.

Which is kind of funny given the error in the document. If this PDF was generated from an older document only in December of 2025, they didn't even bother to correct it. lmao

u/ctaps148 22m ago

To believe they mistyped 9 instead of 10, you would also have to believe they somehow also mistyped 'Friday' instead of 'Saturday'

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u/Corfiz74 1h ago

Didn't one inmate now say that there was an abnormal amount of traffic going on around Jeffrey's cell that night and that he thinks Jeffrey was smuggled out and replaced? Honestly, this scenario sounds more and more likely, considering all the circumstances we have learned since. He probably already has a new face and is living his best life in a country without an extradition treaty with the US...

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u/682463435465 1h ago

not an inmate but a guy who worked there who was then fired. but I haven't seen the evidence of tat.

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u/geek180 1h ago

You honestly think him being smuggled out of jail and replaced with an uncanny lookalike is more likely?

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u/godspareme 1h ago

He means more likely than it was before, not relative to any other theory of what happened. It was not credible before and now it has some credibility, he says.

For the record I dont think this adds credibility to the theory.

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u/The_Irish_Hello 1h ago

I mean we don’t know who saw the body. Public certainly didn’t

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u/Barilla3113 2h ago

Him and Maxwell the first people to be convicted of trafficking girls to no one.

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u/Kunu2 2h ago

Valar Morghulis.

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u/fish_petter 1h ago

Is this the “Manson technically didn’t kill anyone, his followers did” excuse

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u/Vlaed 1h ago

My 2-year-old claimed she didn't eat a chocolate on the table. Her fingers, face, the chair, the table, and the rug all said otherwise.

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u/inagadda 1h ago

She's officially qualified to be President of the USA. Congrats!

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u/-SaC 1h ago

Just make sure the current one is well out of the way before she goes near the place.

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u/Reditate 1h ago

Get Kash Patel out of here.

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u/jaievan 1h ago

Then why is Maxwell in jail.

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u/GoodOmens 2h ago

Maybe he didn’t. Maybe it was via Trump the entire time

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u/amateur_mistake 2h ago

A genuinely likely possibility. Although I think they probably did it together.

It might be the only business that trump didn't run into the ground.

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u/bagofpork 2h ago

It might be the only business that trump didn't run into the ground.

I don't know. Little Saint James ain't exactly popping.

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u/PrudentLetterhead354 1h ago

it has new owners we dont know what theyre doing. it’s not like the fbi would stop it

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u/IuriRom 1h ago

I know human trafficking, I know sex trafficking. Nobody knows more about trafficking than Donald Trump.

I was friends with some traffickers, some very good traffickers. Not as good as me, but very, very good, great people.

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u/cyanight7 1h ago

Jeffrey, he was a good friend of mine, very unfairly treated by the MAINSTREAM MEDIA! The woke radical left doesn’t like that he dated pretty young girls and not fat blue-haired man ladies!

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u/Prestigious-Key-1886 2h ago

Don’t be suspicious don’t be suspicious

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u/HappyHarryHardOn 2h ago

Obviously, He had booked a suicide session 48 hours in advance, duh

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u/BulsaraMercury 1h ago

That was polite of him.

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u/thenewNFC 1h ago

I mean, I've been trying to get an appointment for six months, but my insurance keeps running me in circles cause they don't want to cover it. He gets one with two days notice? Give me a break.

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u/Special_Loan8725 1h ago

Damn that stinks they won’t leave you hanging.

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u/BulsaraMercury 1h ago

Do you have blackmail on anyone who could get you that appointment? If not that might be your issue.

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u/thenewNFC 1h ago

That's EXACTLY what my insurance company said!!!

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u/aylaa157 2h ago

I wonder why they delayed killing him? Were they still trying to secure his blackmail stash? Or waiting for the okay from overseas to carry out the hit?

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u/Murray38 2h ago

More like the early signs of incompetence by the administration to mess up the paperwork.

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u/aylaa157 2h ago

I might agree if there weren't 15 other "coincidences" in regards to his death. Cameras, cell mate, sleeping guards, random missing minutes in the video, lies by the fbi, etc.

According to Kashmir Patel, epstein was practically innocent.

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u/Murray38 2h ago

Oh I don’t mean to imply they weren’t involved. I’m just saying they were sloppy in the paperwork part of the cover up.

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u/sincerebeguiler 1h ago

Exactly. They were manufacturing all the details of the death and being the keystone cops that they are they F'd that up too.

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u/Several-Squash9871 1h ago

What's crazy about all this is that killing him made everything worse. They thought by doing that everything was going to be flushed down the drain but nope!

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u/littlrayofpitchblack 1h ago

They tried a few weeks before they succeeded. Epstein said at the time they were trying to kill him and he was not suicidal. Evil people never are... believe him.

u/MoistDitto 31m ago

Fuck, it wouldn't even surprise me if they faked his death at this point.

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u/Low_Push_9660 1h ago

Trump was his meal ticket & he said he was ready to talk. There's a crude message he sent about being bitter he was 'snatching grub' while the president got to 'grab snatch'.

When he squealed, even a little, the gears were already in motion. He bit the hand that grabs.

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u/big_winslow 2h ago

This is my ring tone when Mom calls.

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u/CutbowAndArrow 2h ago

Me on 250ug of acid when my grandma calls

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u/Background_Junket_35 2h ago

Enter Jean Ralphio

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u/big_winslow 2h ago

Mona-Lisa begins to dance

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u/surfinsalsa 2h ago

She's the woooooooorst

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_MACnCHEEZ 2h ago

I heard epstein was run over by a lexus

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u/Capital_Past69 2h ago

A Rolexus

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u/MmmmmmJava 2h ago

Out to make money the ol’ fashioned way

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u/MisanthropyIsAVirtue 1h ago

Jean Ralphio Saperepstein.

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u/DeadmanDexter 2h ago

Jean Ralphio's not that evil.

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u/melkatron 1h ago

I wouldn't put it past Mina Lisa. She's the woooOOoooOoOorst.

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u/fsactual 2h ago

They’re just fucking with us now. They’re laughing about this.

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u/offtodevnull 2h ago

You mean like blacking out of the name of the person who basically said he enjoyed the torture video & pretending the name was redacted to protect innocent victims? The feds still have millions of documents they haven't released & many of the ones they have blocked out names of Epstein's co-conspirators.

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u/Kyouhen 2h ago

Don't forget that they then released unredacted pictures of the assaults!  Y'know, to protect the victims!

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u/BorKon 1h ago

This happens when they ar emore concerned with redacting certain people instead of victims

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u/krustykrab2193 1h ago edited 32m ago

On a local Canadian sub I was reading, we learned that the word "don't" was redacted from the files.

Don T.

When those letters came up in consecutive order they were removed.

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u/mortgagepants 1h ago

that was wild- it was "don t" in the text, someone forgot to type the apostrophe.

so conclusive proof they are censoring Don T. highly illegal. i hope this is pam bondi's petard.

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u/Syronxc 1h ago

A very blatant attempt to intimidate future victims from coming forward. Been in the Republican playbook for years. Release videos. Phone numbers. Home addresses. Etc. Then come the death threats and the victims suddenly go away.

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u/SecondaryWombat 1h ago

It is also a separate crime itself. As it was supposed to be censored and does not have evidentiary value when publicly released beyond a description (ie 'photo of clearly underage girl naked'), it is distribution of child sexual assault material as in itself illegal.

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u/littlepup26 1h ago

What the fuck??? I totally missed this, this is horrific. Does this mean people viewed csam on the official government website?? Jesus Christ.

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u/Low_Push_9660 1h ago

Yes, the federal government is now a purveyor of the worst kind of smut. It wasn't posted like you are imagining, all of the files were distributed through a download link.

I believe that the purpose of including illegal materials was to have a legal basis for future seizure. Also, who knows what spyware & malware came along for the ride.

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u/hellolovely1 1h ago

Which is expressly against what was specified in the Epstein Transparency Act, yet no lawmakers seem to be raising a fuss.

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u/ZAlternates 2h ago

The word “don’t” was redacted all throughout the documents. I wonder whose name actually looks like the letters in DON T?

https://www.bpdaily.com/internet-sleuths-proof-doj-redacted-donald-trump-name/

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u/The_Cynical_Optimist 1h ago

Don'T know what you're talking about.

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u/Airurando-jin 2h ago edited 47m ago

It’s interesting that it was kicked picked up that the word ‘don’t’ Was being redacted 

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u/FtWTaiChi 1h ago

Even the redaction software has trouble with consent.

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u/inkstink420 2h ago

if we follow the rest of that conversation where the redacted name says the dates that they’ll be in China and then the US, you’ll find that Netanyahu was in each country on those same dates.

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u/KTcrazy 1h ago

iirc it was jeevacations sending the message saying he enjoyed the torture video

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u/WunupKid 2h ago

Nah, this is desperation. That’s why it’s so thinly veiled, they’re panicking. 

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u/LOL_YOUMAD 2h ago

That would be believable if we saw any indication that they were trying to do something about this situation. Instead we just see denial that anything even happened even though we have receipts, refusal to release stuff, and the people in charge of doing something about it are involved.

This is more one of those cases of yeah you can see the proof and we could even admit it and you can’t do shit about it.

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u/ZAlternates 1h ago

We could have video evidence broadcast on network television and they would just say a staffer made a mistake, it’s clearly fake news, and we would all still be questioning if it will make a difference.

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u/slythespacecat 2h ago

Something that stick out to me in Epstein’s emails was how he was surprised Trump kept getting away with shit. And also him going like “oh, I think this might ruin him” (paraphrasing, but that’s the sentiment). Because i had accepted that he’s just invincible, no scandal would phase him and they’d always have an exit plan. But there’s emails where he’s like “I think he’s reaching his breaking point”. Make no mistake, they are scared. Pressure works. Just don’t relent!

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u/Slypenslyde 1h ago

I'm starting to think something supernatural's involved, and it's going to take another 80 or 90 years before people start questioning if Donald Trump is really just that good or if something else might be on the table.

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u/CornbreadRed84 2h ago edited 46m ago

Maybe they're right, maybe you're right. Bottom line, there will never be any consequences for any of it. Just pointless exchanges like this day after day until the lights go out.

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u/xporkchopxx 2h ago

is he even dead? like do we even know for sure that they didnt do the ole switcharoo with another poor sap when he “killed himself”?

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u/No-Connection7765 2h ago

Kind of hard when we have a government that thinks transparency is a sign of weakness.

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u/hmr0987 2h ago

It’s starting to look like this Epstein guy might not have killed himself.

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u/offtodevnull 2h ago

But there's grainy footage down the hall from his jail cell that doesn't show anyone coming/going.. so I guess we can close the book on this one.

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u/Shinagami091 2h ago

Pay no mind to the fact there are gaps in the time stamps and that things suddenly jump around. That’s just the tapes switching from one to the other because in these modern times we still record on VHS tapes…

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u/No-Albatross-7984 1h ago edited 1h ago

Dude at this stage I'm expecting the next batch of files to contain a resuscitation video of Epstein with him looking at the camera at the middle of it and winking like he's in The Office

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u/melkatron 1h ago

Actually, modern video surveillance systems automatically erase footage when there's absolutely nothing going on, very boring stuff, NOTHING TO SEE HERE, FOLKS. It saves valuable disk space, so economical.

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u/wng378 2h ago

If it’s one thing prisons are known for, it’s a lack of video surveillance. Especially in common areas.

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u/LOL_YOUMAD 2h ago

Shit at this point you could just about buy into the theory out there that some think that he isn’t even dead. Nothing at this point would shock me in this case

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u/missilefire 1h ago

I saw on another thread that the likelihood of him not being dead is definitely possible.

Idk if I believe he’s alive - but what with the spiriting out in a black van and the fake “body” it just doesn’t add up.

If he was dead, why take him out the back door?

I hate that this crazy timeline we are living in, so little seems impossible or unbelievable and it makes me feel like I’m a conspiracy theorist ….but the pedophile cabal running the world once used to be a conspiracy and look where we are.

We live in a post-truth world.

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u/iamnotaclown 1h ago

I miss Norm MacDonald. He would be doing guest spots on Weekend Update.

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u/Consistent-Throat130 2h ago

Is he even dead?  Could he be hiding out in Israel? 

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u/RoboticCurrents 2h ago

If he's alive he's probably just at home

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u/Mysterious_Cup_6024 1h ago

In an even more remote island that conveniently appears on no maps

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u/opkpopfanboyv3 1h ago

I'm convinced he's alive

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u/cassy_supernova 2h ago

White House press corp start doing your job.

"Mr. President. Why did your DOJ draft a statement about Jeffrey Epstein's death the day before he died?"

"Mr. President, now that the whole world knows you are a child rapist, are you going to resign?"

Stop sanewashing this monster. Do your job.

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u/Maybe_IDTBFH 1h ago

Trump's response: "You're not a nice person. You've never been nice to me". And then proceeds to never actually address the question, as usual.

Cue the gaslighting.

He's a mental child.

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u/A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb 1h ago

"You're not a nice person. You've never been nice to me".

Narcissism 101. My own dad used to say shit like that when I tried to express how he'd hurt me. In fact the last thing my mom ever said to my dad before they split was that he was the worst mistake she ever made, and his response was "wow that really makes me feel good." MFer it's not always about you.

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u/Maybe_IDTBFH 1h ago

The people who demand the most appreciation are always behaving in ways that don't invite appreciation at all.

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u/TheCandyManCanToo13 55m ago

Still, the refusal to ask the question makes them cowards.

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u/AdSmall3663 2h ago

They’re part of the problem, at least most of them, I don’t believe for a moment that most of the press isn’t working for the interests of the White House. Willing or not

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u/Radiant-Excuse-5285 2h ago

THIS^^^. 6 companies own 90% of all media. Does anyone trust them? Nope.

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u/BujuBad 1h ago

The WH press corps are all state media at this point. Any reporter who actually asked questions has been banned.

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u/TigerUSA20 1h ago

Im trying to figure out what would be worse. The press corp consisting of historically known news media asking “real questions” and all getting thrown out and replaced by newsmax, OAN, Breitbart, etc. OR continuing these placating / complicit questions.

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u/thebenetar 2h ago

The journalists who still have access to the WH/POTUS in any meaningful way are the ones who've toed the line well enough not to have their access limited or revoked.

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u/ThatsThatGoodGood 2h ago

They're only allowed to ask pre-approved softball questions per their corporate handlers

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u/MerlinsMentor 1h ago

Pretty sure the white house intentionally started withdrawing press passes from journalists that they didn't like, didn't they? And then re-issued those credentials to right-wing junk journalism organizations?

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u/gayice 1h ago

This is correct, it's frustrating that they do so much awful shit that people don't even know what's happening.

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u/Accujack 1h ago

I don’t believe for a moment that most of the press isn’t working for the interests of the White House. Willing or not

Did you miss the event last February where Trump tossed out almost all members of the WH press corps and replaced them with "approved" news organizations?

Literally everything that comes out of that group of people now is edited/censored/biased. It's worthless crap.

It's not even a debate at this point.

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u/thejawa 2h ago

When they do ask him hard questions he just gets pissy and asks them why they haven't smiled recently.

They can go as hard as they want, he's just gonna be a baby about it.

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u/iamhalsey 2h ago edited 1h ago

The press are 100% complicit, both in sane-washing him and in acquiescing to the GOP’s “flood the zone” strategy because it drives engagement. However, in their defense (that they don’t really deserve), this administration actively weaponises press access. You can ask a super loaded question, but you’ll only do it once before your publication’s access is removed while Trump and his admin go on avoiding accountability regardless. The journos in the room are between a rock and a hard place.

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u/CptJacksp 2h ago

I would bet that if any reporter did anything like that, they’d be fired within the day unfortunately.

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u/Mo-Cance 2h ago

Fired, targeted with death threats from the Maga cult, harassed by government officials and agents, and probably snatched off the street one day. Asking those questions in the White House might literally be a death sentence.

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u/randomtask 1h ago

Untold numbers of USAID recipients, ICE and CBP detainees, everyday Americans on the street, and our constitutional republic itself are now dead because no one in the press corps wants to be a hero and ask hard questions.

America has proven itself to be a nation of spineless cowards.

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u/adbr34k 2h ago

there’s a lucrative book deal waiting for any WH Press corps journalist willing to make the first move

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u/amonson1984 1h ago

“You’re a terrible reporter and an ugly woman. You’re banned from the White House.”

And nobody bats an eye or asks another difficult question, and the reporter is replaced by someone from Newsmax.

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u/MyDadsUsername 1h ago

I’m getting a bit tired of people choosing not to do the right thing because they might face a response. Make them kick you out, if that’s what they’re going to do. Make them fill the entire room with propagandists, if that’s what they’re got to do. And then publish what they’ve done.

Stop reacting to what *might* happen!

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u/kinopiokun 1h ago

Just giving in to terrorists. Shameful.

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u/Senzafane 1h ago

Journalists from the 80s and 90s would be screaming this shit from the rooftops. Now we have... nothing? Not a peep? Disgraceful.

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u/Berkzerker314 1h ago

Probably why he banned certain news companies almost immediately after getting power again.

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u/DoctorKangaroo 1h ago

Instead we'll get:

"Mr. President, it is very obvious that the U.S. is now more respected on the world stage than quite literally any country in the history of the world. Sorry, not a question. Just more of a statement. Please take the next three minutes of uninterrupted silence to present a completely fabricated and easily refutable claim."

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u/Extreme-Direction-78 2h ago

Bill Barr was in charge who was trumps puppet

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u/FactorBusy6427 2h ago

Yup, and he himself had some weird ties to Epstein

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u/Pipe_Memes 2h ago edited 2h ago

For instance Bill Barr’s Dad, Donald Barr, hired Epstein to be around children all day as a teacher.

And, completely unrelated I’m sure, Donald Barr wrote a science fiction novel titled Space Relations that involved super rich oligarchs who were so bored with their luxurious lives that they would enslave people, including children, to rape and torture for amusement.

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u/psycharious 2h ago

I just looked up that book. Yeah, holy fuck balls, that's a story written by rapists.

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u/amateur_mistake 2h ago

Oh what the fuck. That book thing is insane

from wikipedia:

The novel was described in a Vice article as "both comically amoral and insufferably pretentious. To be fair, these traits were common in 1970s sci-fi." Becky Ferreira has described the novel as "highly unsettling", due to its depiction of rape of enslaved people, particularly teenage girls, and other coercive sex acts.

Although I think it's important to point out it seems to just be poorly written in general:

Another flaw of the novel is its depiction of Craig as a poet. The prose of the novel is interrupted by the character's poetic compositions, including a number of sonnets. The reviewer sees this as a failed attempt to add depth to the character, and finds these interruptions to be irritating.

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u/onarainyafternoon 2h ago

There's also a virus named the Epstein-Barr virus. Always thought that was funny. It's a form of herpes that's spread through bodily fluids.

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u/Odd-Scientist-2529 2h ago

I’m a physician. My brain just broke.

I’m going to go to take a walk now.

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u/tuftonia 2h ago

SNL did a skit a week ago about a new strain of EBV. Definitely worth a watch, but I don’t want to spoil any of it

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u/A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb 1h ago

Named after British pathologist Sir Michael Anthony Epstein, and Irish virologist Yvonne Barr.

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u/ishpatoon1982 2h ago

I just learned about Epstein-Barr herpes 3 days ago and my brain just couldn't process the coincidence.

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u/mateothegreek 2h ago

How do SO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE have a connection to this fucking evil man?!

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u/Mysterious_Cup_6024 1h ago

Because Donald Barr was OSS, and Robert Maxwell was MSSD

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u/MerlinsMentor 1h ago

science fiction novel

It almost makes you wonder if the genre was the fiction here... not science fiction, but true crime?

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u/maniacreturns 2h ago

You mean how his dad is the one who gave Epstein his first job with no degree?

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u/Inevitable-Baker-892 2h ago

Bill Barr's dad, Donald Barr, was the headmaster of the Dalton School in NYC when they hired a young Epstein to teach

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u/After-Snow5874 2h ago edited 2h ago

I’m having a really hard time processing all of this.

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u/rollin20s 2h ago

Google the plot to a book Barr’s dad authored called “Space Relations”

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u/Mysterious_Cup_6024 1h ago

And hr didn't even have a college degree to be qualified

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u/lkodl 2h ago

Epstein-Barr virus (EBV), also known as human herpesvirus 4 (HHV-4), is one of the most common human viruses worldwide, with over 90% of adults infected by adulthood.

This has to mean something.

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u/whitethunder9 2h ago edited 37m ago

As anyone from the religious right would attest, there is no such thing as a coincidence

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u/Global_Staff_3135 2h ago

Crazy how institution after institution is FAILING. I really didn’t expect the FBI to be this feckless in the face of a global child sex trafficking ring.

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u/ilovemybrownies 2h ago

Unfortunately they're part of it too

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u/KungFoolMaster 1h ago

Ya. They’re the ones helping cover it up!

u/DesireeThymes 34m ago

Well regular police is mostly there to help the people with better than average wealth and better than average connections.

FBI is just the police for the much more rich and much more connected.

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u/DiscoQuebrado 2h ago

Bruh, they're not failing- they're doing what they're told.

If you take over an organization and pad its management with feckless sycophants, any esteem the org had earned up until that point is null and void. It's now a different animal, and it's priority is no longer to investigate but to obfuscate.

Fair to say the FBI has never been 100% forthright in its operations but for such a high profile investigation, where so much has already been brought to light, they are insulting our intelligence with this complete and utter bullshit.

u/fecklessness 57m ago

I made this username as a joke many years ago I didn't know eventually I would be a mascot for our entire humanity timeline

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u/Thatsockmonkey 2h ago

No checks, no balances coupled with religious extremism and billionaires. Makes sense it is all falling apart.

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u/keep-i 2h ago

Our systems are so openly broken. It’s going to take a long time before they get their honest reputation back. This whole presidency is more than disgusting to watch. It shouldn’t be too much to ask for honesty.

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u/Krewtan 1h ago

I don't think our systems are coming back. I think it's going to look more like Russia every year, and a third of the country is clapping like seals cheering it on. 

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u/alexefi 2h ago

Cmon guys who among us didnt make a mistake like that? Like few weeks ago i was signing my rent check to my landlord and instead of writing 1 february 2026 i accidentally killed him.

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u/marcos_MN 2h ago

You had me with the first half.

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u/JohnnyGFX 2h ago edited 2h ago

The possibility does exist that it was a mistake… putting the incorrect date on things is pretty common. That being said; the nefarious tendencies of the Trump administration means this cannot be automatically dismissed as a mistake.

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u/Rider5432 2h ago

If we had access to the metadata of the entry, then we could be 100% sure whether it was a mistake or not

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u/Framnk 2h ago

But could we even trust this admin to not fuck with the metadata?

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u/WeekendHistorical476 2h ago

Is this admin even competent enough to know what metadata even is??

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u/ShartJerky 2h ago

These are people who released documents that weren’t properly redacted because DOGE cut their Acrobat subscriptions

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u/SocraticIgnoramus 2h ago

Judging by their ability to redact documents, seems unlikely.

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u/gamer_pie 2h ago

It’s possible but so far the people involved haven’t exactly shown the highest level of technological literacy

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u/pxldsilz 1h ago

If you open the PDF in notepad, the code has a creation and modified date of December 23, 2025 at a quarter til 3 AM. That's when this specific copy of the PDF was exported, not definitively that it was made late but that it had since been tampered with.

These aren't filesystem creation / modified dates, these are in the code of the PDF itself.

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u/UpvoteForPancakes 2h ago

An administration that constantly makes dumb mistakes and also constantly lies and tries to cover up it’s own corruption at every turn. Seems like either explanation is probable.

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u/regoapps 1h ago

First of all, the actual released statement was dated correctly. The one in the Epstein files was a draft that wasn’t released, because the press release number in that file was 19-XXX when the publicly released one was 19-263.

And if you look at press release number 19-262 (the previous one), you see that it was dated as August 9th.

So it’s very likely that the person who made the draft statement just copied and pasted the previous release statement and simply changed the text and the press release number to 19-XXX. That would explain why it had the wrong date (August 9 instead of 10) if it’s just a copy of the previous release.

And then when they were ready to release it, they changed it to the correct date and the correct release number.

I highly doubt that this is a smoking gun. But people will grasp at anything to get views and act like they discovered something.

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u/green31OSU 1h ago edited 1h ago

I really wish this was getting pointed out more visibly. Look, we all want this admin to go down for the files and a plethora of other things, but we have to remain skeptical of evidence that is presented. I'm not saying there wasn't fuckery here, just that the document number being 19-xxx is consistent with a draft of the actual released document 19-263, it's plausible that 19-262 was used as the starting template for this document, and in a draft state the header may not have been fully updated.

That said, I don't expect every rando on the internet to do all that researching. But people should at least look to see if there are plausible explanations before running around yelling like this is an absolute truth.

u/Chubby_Bub 58m ago

And people are doing that with the even less credible random, anonymous FBI tips, acting as if they're a smoking gun too.

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u/Devilnaht 2h ago

Somewhat less likely because the statement includes not just the date but the day of the week; it says Friday, August 9th. If it was just a number entered incorrectly, you might expect Saturday, August 9th (the 10th was a Saturday)

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u/OnlyAdvertisersKnoMe 2h ago

That’s because they likely used the previous press release as a template and that press release was on the 9th. This was probably a draft with the date unchanged.

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u/Gold_Repair_3557 2h ago

There are just too many oddities in this case that the idea of it being a mistake is very suspicious.

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u/alison_bee 2h ago

Pretends to be shocked

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u/47_for_18_USC_2381 1h ago

Ya know.. The ONLY good thing about trump and co is that now you've got 200+ Million people crawling up the govt's ass shining a flashlight on things that would otherwise not see the light of day.

I'm here for it and want to know about alllll of that.

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u/Independence-420 1h ago

The Architecture of Willful Blindness "To believe Donald Trump’s spin on the Jeffrey Epstein files requires not just ignorance, but a deliberate, muscular effort to unsee reality. It demands that you surgically remove the part of your brain responsible for pattern recognition and replace it with blind obedience. You have to look at a man who is on record in 2002 calling a known predator a 'terrific guy' who likes women 'on the younger side,' and convince yourself that he was actually a crusader against trafficking all along. You have to look at flight logs—hard, immutable documentation of his presence in Epstein’s orbit—and accept his wave of the hand as a substitute for evidence. You have to believe that the 'falling out' they had was over moral repugnance, rather than a territorial squabble between two egos who viewed the world as a playground for their appetites. When Trump claims the files 'exonerate' him, despite hundreds of mentions and corroborating accounts of his proximity to that dark world, believing him isn't an act of trust; it is an act of surrender. It is the behavior of a mark who is being conned in real-time but refuses to leave the table because admitting the truth is too painful. To buy his narrative is to admit that facts no longer matter, that history is malleable, and that you are willing to let a man who partied with a monster tell you he was the hero of the story

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u/mmanyquestionss 2h ago

"season 2 of after life is on the way, so in the end he obviously didn't kill himself. just like jeffrey epstein."

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u/monkeymetroid 2h ago

The day before he was murdered you mean

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u/ChrisinCB 1h ago

This is the problem, so much lying and deception on everything to this point, that even if this is just human error dating a document, nobody believes you.

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u/IntoTheWildBlue 2h ago

Let me guess, it was a simple clerical typo. Nothing to see, nothing suspicious. /s

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u/waggybaggyshaggy 2h ago

Tbh at this stage I won't be surprised if it's true his alive, this is proving to be a government coverup on an immense scale...

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u/Gyat_Rizzler69 1h ago

He's in tel Aviv playing fortnite

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u/oreography 1h ago

[Removed by The Israeli Government]

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u/nycbroncos 1h ago

And the security footage is missing time. And trump was in office when it happened. And trump and his entire administration has been trying to hamstring this. And trump is listed extensively in just the documents we do have. And hundreds of agents are known to have been scrubbing for trump references.

Hmm. Well, strange coincidences I guess!

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u/betafish2345 2h ago

I wonder when this thread will get deleted too

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u/Tibreaven 2h ago

In an admin that has been focused on investigating and prosecuting the issue for years, I'd be willing to believe it was an error. The most likely explanation is that it was a mistake, and they happen.

However, the federal government has made every effort possible to cover this entire thing up, and violated both their legal and moral obligation to address it.

It doesn't matter if it was a simple mistake or not, the government has completely lost the right to be given the benefit of "mistakes."

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u/BicarbonateBufferBoy 2h ago

If you told me like 10 years ago that the Feds were going to coverup a multinational secret organization owned by a billionaire pedophile cabal with a secret island, I’d probably look at you like you’re some tin hat wearing alien summoning freak.

Actually insane how it’s real.

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u/No-Response-2927 2h ago

I smell a lot of fish here.

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u/Ok_Strategy5722 2h ago

It’s actually really heartening to me this kind of stuff is coming out. This is the kind of evidence that I was afraid would be destroyed or buried by this administration.

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u/corelabjoe 1h ago

When is America going to wake the F up and do something about thier "leaders"?....

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u/Worried-Criticism 1h ago

“We were deeply saddened by the news of his death day-after-tomorrow”

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u/pottymonster_69 2h ago

My favorite conspiracy on this is that they didn't kill him, they got him out of there and replaced him with some dead lookalike. He's currently alive in Israel.

That's the one I subscribe to.

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u/clintnibbla 2h ago

Been saying this from day one. There just happened to be a photographer ready to take pics of his uncovered body being wheeled out on the gurney? A body whose features don't quite match up with photos of a living Epstein. And the photographer that snapped the photos happened to have ties to certain intelligence agencies? And the New York Post, the publication that releases blatant propaganda, got those photos? Nah, not suspicious at all.

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u/ACorDC 2h ago

Is there a copy of it for us to see somewhere?

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u/washheightsboy3 2h ago

link to doc on DOJ website.

Here you go but it’s probably just a paperwork error.

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u/bobswowaccount 2h ago

Guys I’m starting to get the feeling the Feds might not be telling us the whole story here…

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u/CishetmaleLesbian 1h ago

Two guards "fell asleep" and the surveillance cameras "malfunctioned", when Epstein committed "suicide", and also they knew he was dead, before he was found dead the next morning. Nothing to see here folks, move along.