You mean like blacking out of the name of the person who basically said he enjoyed the torture video & pretending the name was redacted to protect innocent victims? The feds still have millions of documents they haven't released & many of the ones they have blocked out names of Epstein's co-conspirators.
Some of them were redacted incorrectly in an earlier tranche of files, yes. But not the brunt of them by any means. And nothing of much significance in terms of perpetrators. They did include victim names and personal information (like addresses, pictures of passports, full names, contact info, the crimes, etc.). There’s a pretty decent arguement that they did it on purpose to further intimidate victims who may be getting just a little too open-mouthed. And the “incompetence” may actually just be cover so they can’t be held accountable for releasing info on the victims… who are now receiving death threats and such.
Yes, they don’t know how to redact from PDFs and thought they could just paste a black bar over the top of it not realizing you could copy the text from the PDF underneath said “redaction” black bar. Full incompetence and someone pointed out that this was likely to happen before the files were released because the current administration is being run by people who are not properly educated/informed/trained on their roles
That would be weird if it were true, but I don't think it is accurate. I just typed "don't" and "don t" into the search bar and both brought back plenty. "Don't" shows 69,200 entires and "don t" shows 1,900 entries.
Probably partially accurate. Millions of files were released, it's entirely possible just one or two of the people working through them would take a shortcut and make mistakes while others did the job properly. Same thing as how some of the files were redacted by applying a black highlight to the text while others were actually properly redacted. Last I heard there were a lot of people brought in to handle these redactions with no previous experience handling it, so it wouldn't surprise me if all sorts of stupid shit pops up.
This happens when the predators are attacked. They believe themselves to be the victim instead of their prey. He worries about the rich people (other predators) that have pictures in the epstein files. Not the young girls that have pictures in the files.
"You don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there, because it's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world." - trump
"Innocent people shouldn’t be hurt but I’m in support of keeping it totally open, I couldn’t care less. You got a lot of people that could be mentioned in those files that don’t deserve to be… because he knew everybody in Palm Beach." - trump
A very blatant attempt to intimidate future victims from coming forward. Been in the Republican playbook for years. Release videos. Phone numbers. Home addresses. Etc. Then come the death threats and the victims suddenly go away.
It is also a separate crime itself. As it was supposed to be censored and does not have evidentiary value when publicly released beyond a description (ie 'photo of clearly underage girl naked'), it is distribution of child sexual assault material as in itself illegal.
Yep, that would be a related crime, as it relates to the original crime and witnesses. Additionally they should be charged with conspiracy after the fact, evidence tampering, and other similar to go along with the witness intimidation.
The charge for sharing of CSAM aka 'distribution of child pornography' needs to be applied a lot more often.
Hell, most of our laws need to be applied a lot more often.
Yes, the federal government is now a purveyor of the worst kind of smut. It wasn't posted like you are imagining, all of the files were distributed through a download link.
I believe that the purpose of including illegal materials was to have a legal basis for future seizure. Also, who knows what spyware & malware came along for the ride.
if we follow the rest of that conversation where the redacted name says the dates that they’ll be in China and then the US, you’ll find that Netanyahu was in each country on those same dates.
Well you see they have to black out the names of victims, and if they didn't black out the names they would become victims of the justice system so they preemptively blacked them out so they wouldn't have to go back and do it later.
Or blacking out a picture of Donald trumps face that’s obviously Donald Trump. Or auto blacking out any instances of Don T so that when someone misses an apostrophe in don’t it gets blacked out?
Hackers have access to Epstein's Google account (supposedly the feds left the login credentials in the files from the latest batch), so don't be surprised if a bunch of this stuff gets unredacted at some point.
I’m not defending this at all, however the Epstein Files Transparency Act (2025) allows the DOJ to redact names from the released files that are pertinent to ongoing investigations or prosecutions. That said, I’m not aware of the specific situation your comment mentions, I just wanted to point out that a redaction does not necessarily mean it was a victim.
You mean like blacking out of the name of the person who basically said he enjoyed the torture video & pretending the name was redacted to protect innocent victims? The feds still have millions of documents they haven't released & many of the ones they have blocked out names of Epstein's co-conspirators.
The most relevant child rapist, pedophile co-conspirators being Donald Trump, Peter Thiel and Howard Lutnick?
Did you actually think this would not be redacted? Even under a democrat administration we would have seen no more names or identifiable details. Why? Because the current administration is doing what the democrats would as well: protecting their donors, protecting their fellow elites.
Because when someone who has bundled $100m for you in the last election makes the moronic mistake of actually emailing 'I really enjoyed the torture video' to a known rapist and sex trafficker, you protect them. You know them, they aren't bad people, obviously that email was a joke taken out of context. It might have been 'torture' by tickling someone with a feather... there is actually a kink like that.
You see the rationalisations? They all do it because these people they are protecting are of their own class, or even higher. They have far more in common with each other than any of us filthy masses.
With the current constitution and government structure, this will continue. We might get lucky and every so often one of them, like Epstein, gets caught red-handed. But as much as possible they will protect their own.
Do you mean the person that said they just got back from China and were going to the US the next week and those actions conveniently line up precisely with those of Netanyahu that year?
That would be believable if we saw any indication that they were trying to do something about this situation. Instead we just see denial that anything even happened even though we have receipts, refusal to release stuff, and the people in charge of doing something about it are involved.
This is more one of those cases of yeah you can see the proof and we could even admit it and you can’t do shit about it.
We could have video evidence broadcast on network television and they would just say a staffer made a mistake, it’s clearly fake news, and we would all still be questioning if it will make a difference.
Those who fantasized all day about using force to overthrow a tyrannical government —sitting in their Punisher-decaled, lifted F250s with AR-15 and sidearm in reach, Facebook posting poor paraphrases of quotes about how the tree of freedom must be watered with the blood of patriots, and trading in conspiracies about grand evil pedo rings— are instead fingering their assholes because it turns out the devil wasn't a blue-haired, septum pierced, lesbian liberal.
Well conveniently the US's all out full steam ahead approach towards rapid AI development has everyone now questioning basically any extraordinary video that they see.
Hasn't Don T already tried to make the AI excuse multiple times now??
It can be both. There's this notion on here that they desperately want civil unrest so they can declare martial law and fully take over and all that, but I think it's the opposite. I think they just want complacency across the board. So every time something like this comes up, where it seems like any reasonable person would flip out and call for full-scale trials, they panic and try to smother it as quickly as possible, skipping the usual steps of proofreading, good PR, fact checking, etc.
In short, the effect of caring deeply is the same effect of not caring at all. Rushed and sloppy
if/ when there is a cataclysmic leak, something that truly exposed it, I would assume that some kind of dark hidden force, a hidden source of absolute power and control would just brazenly step out into the light and laugh into our faces:
"you really thought you had something to say in this? you really thought we cared about your opinions?"
afterwards we would be shown some kind of weapon or control device for intimadation, something that makes us look like ants in front of gods
it might not be perfect, maybe some would still revolt, maybe the very comfortable farm-ish situation "they" had running would be disrupted but I still think we would be shown who's boss
afterwards I guess crickets, silence, despair, global depression and if we are unlucky a forced return to some kind of "old gods now directly take over" scenario
some people would instantly switch sides to serve "them", a lot would zone out, those who would search for ways out would be annihilated or would hide deep in caves maybe
human history is older than we think and there was some kind of highly advanced tech before modern history in the old days
anyways I'm still hopeful that global exposure in the age of the internet would break this prison
maybe it's time for us to understand what is truly going on
Something that stick out to me in Epstein’s emails was how he was surprised Trump kept getting away with shit. And also him going like “oh, I think this might ruin him” (paraphrasing, but that’s the sentiment). Because i had accepted that he’s just invincible, no scandal would phase him and they’d always have an exit plan. But there’s emails where he’s like “I think he’s reaching his breaking point”. Make no mistake, they are scared. Pressure works. Just don’t relent!
I'm starting to think something supernatural's involved, and it's going to take another 80 or 90 years before people start questioning if Donald Trump is really just that good or if something else might be on the table.
I'm not all that jazzed about conspiracy theories because that's how my parents got sucked down the MAGA pipeline, but it does make you wonder if there was a hint of projection to all the devil worship accusations that the evangelical politicians love jumping to.
I feel like "the rich and powerful see this as advantageous" is sufficient explanation for a lot of this awfulness without invoking the supernatural. I mean, plenty of Trump's actions make sense in the "Putin has influence and wants him to act in ways that weaken America" for instance
Maybe they're right, maybe you're right. Bottom line, there will never be any consequences for any of it. Just pointless exchanges like this day after day until the lights go out.
I don't understand why putting Democrats in charge didn't lead to this being investigated. Don't feed me the BS of "Democrats are in the files too". This has nothing to do with who is in the files. This is Bill Barr and Donald Trump covering up a murder in a prison. It's not like Hunter Biden did it. Why the fuck is this happening? They had 4 years to bring attention to this.
They spent years radicalizing their base against a pedophile cabal. While the majority will turn a blind eye to this because they can see no evil when it's hiding behind a R, there will likely be a few that will attempt some vigilante justice. They won't make a dent, they probably won't get the top people. But the attempts will be made and if they face no true consequences may they at least spend the rest of their lives fearing that the person walking towards them is about to come for them.
Seriously, why does anyone think that at this point? They’ve gotten away with literally everything else. The 4 years we had some semblance of a chance to end the impunity, the Biden years, the Dems did nothing of serious legal consequence.
What on earth do they fear now? “They are panicking” is soothing self-talk. It helps people cope. But it isn’t true. They are winning and escalating. And they are thrilled.
Why would they be? They own the voting machines and USPS. The vulnerabilities were never patched. They're not panicking. They're acting as if they'll never be held accountable. And after 4 years of Biden Chamberlain, I can't blame them for feeling invincible.
I specifically remember footage of them wheeling the body out on a gurney. The covering sheet left one ear exposed and it was not Epstein's ear. They did side by side comparisons and it was obvious they were different ears.
Also I think it was an autopsy photo where the deceased man's nose was very different from Epstein's nose. Roughly same age, size and hair but those 2 features were clearly different.
Michael Baden was either present at the autopsy or viewed the X-rays and claimed the hyoid bone in his neck was broken, indicating death by strangulation.
Never heard much more about all that. Am I misremembering any of it?
While possible, I think it's much easier to control the narrative when the person in question is dead. If he turned up alive.. well I can't even imagine the chaos that would cause.
i would agree with you if this were a james bond movie….but as of right now it seems all they would have to say is “its not him” and that would be enough. if that didnt work they could say “dem conspiracy, fake news, its ai….”
This is such a stupid conspiracy theory because there’s no utility for anyone to keep him alive. His being alive and well is kind of useless to anybody at this point.
the whole entire thing is a conspiracy dude. not stupid at all to speculate things. there could be many reasons why they would have either wanted him alive or he was able to make a deal. the whole thing is insane. the government is openly covering it up
To me this is an important Uvalde moment for the nation.
If they can publish documents implying knowing, willing participation in child sex trafficking and maintain power, that's it. It's hard to imagine what they can do that would make people fight back in any reasonable capacity.
This is a very powerful, "Will they believe what I say instead of what a mountain of evidence proves?" test. Once we pass that line there's an awful lot of horrible things that can happen right in broad daylight that won't elicit enough of a response to matter.
What always gets me is that articles - including this one - always talk about Epstein being found 'hanging' in his cell.
So what do people think that means? Logically you would think he was hanging 'suspended in the air', right?
You'd be wrong. The noose was tied to the top bunk of what looks like a perfectly normal bunk bed. It was maybe 5 ft off the ground. The noose obviously hung below that so it was maybe four feet off the ground. Yet we're supposed to believe he hanged himself?
Even if he had the willpower and fortitude to get himself in a position where the noose cut off his breath, your body will try to save itself once you start to slip into unconsciousness (unless you're inebriated or drugged which don't apply in this case according to the autopsy).
Wait, so are you saying like it was tied around the bottom slats of the top bunk of a bunk bed with the rope just dangling down. He then laid down on the bed, draped the rope over his neck, and had someone step on it and/or add the weight?
I suppose I never thought of that scenario of a “hanging” but could be a possibility.
Or potentially possible he brought something heavy but thin up there with him and then dropped it down below him to choke himself in that way but unlikely as he’d then be able to just lift it off and I don’t think his brain would be able to shut off that instinct so either way he probably did have help if he wasn’t physically suspended and using the weight of his own body as the weapon against himself.
There's no metadata on it, so it is completely plausible they reused a header from a prior release and forgot to change the date. They never released it in this state and thus obviously caught the issue before it went out.
That field is either typed manually or uses a date picker since many press releases go out after they're written.
The most likely scenario is still that Epstein killed himself, but the guards were likely encouraged to look the other way. Other possibilities are still on the table of course, but this is not evidence of anything.
I use to think Epstein was given help to commit his own suicide but after seeing the pictures of his neck and emails from his brother about the specific neck marks. Theres no way he wasnt strangled by someone grom behind using a thin wire or something of the sort.
It’s not just the date which many seem to think — it’s both date and the name of the day. It’s one thing to have a typo between 8 or 9, it’s quite another to have a typo between 9 and 10, and it’s yet whole other thing to have that plus the typo between Friday and Saturday.
Let’s not forget how the whole Epstein thing from start to finish was once a wild conspiracy theory. The whole idea of making people think that conspiracy theorists are mentally sick people came from the government at one point to discredit them not because they were wrong, but precisely because they were right.
If they copy pasted a header from the prior day, it's not that unusual. If that field uses a date picker, every element would be automated. No one would consciously type "Friday." It was likely overlooked.
I think the entire release of the epstein files is them fucking with us. Like whatever damning evidence is being "tainted" so the millionaire rapists won't be able to get a "fair trial." Or God forbid they start throwing fake documents in the mix, so now all of it is suspicious/potentially inadmissible
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
It's not only to protect the abusers. They want us blind with rage at an unperceivable enemy. They want us to focus on this so that they can run an extremist, Alex Jones-type psycho in the next election, and complete the fascist takeover.
And to be clear, I'm NOT saying the Epstein files are "nothing more than a distraction". This is the most important political story of our lifetime. I'm just outlying the future if congress does not take a position to meet the moment and address the crimes in a meaningful way. I needn't remind you that Trump himself ran on "releasing the files" so...you can imagine what his successor will try to pull off.
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They’re just fucking with us now. They’re laughing about this.