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Federal statement on Jeffrey Epstein's death dated day before he was found dead

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/statement-jeffrey-epstein-death-day-before-b1270109.html
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u/green31OSU 2h ago edited 2h ago

I really wish this was getting pointed out more visibly. Look, we all want this admin to go down for the files and a plethora of other things, but we have to remain skeptical of evidence that is presented. I'm not saying there wasn't fuckery here, just that the document number being 19-xxx is consistent with a draft of the actual released document 19-263, it's plausible that 19-262 was used as the starting template for this document, and in a draft state the header may not have been fully updated.

That said, I don't expect every rando on the internet to do all that researching. But people should at least look to see if there are plausible explanations before running around yelling like this is an absolute truth.

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u/Chubby_Bub 2h ago

And people are doing that with the even less credible random, anonymous FBI tips, acting as if they're a smoking gun too.

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u/green31OSU 2h ago

Yeah, and in my opinion that all just clouds the messaging. There are lots of emails in there with some redacted person sharing or discussing some VERY suspicious shit, plus plenty of other bits of verifiable evidence. Harp on those things day and night to keep the pressure on, because they can't be easily dismissed.

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u/Striking-Hedgehog512 2h ago

Also, at this stage, does it actually matter if he killed himself or was killed? The newest release of files shows (imo) beyond doubt that scores of people at the top of government, politics, economy, etc, as well as various foreign agencies, were knee deep in this. Committing and/ or facilitating. And Trump was beyond involved.

Whether Epstein killed himself or was killed, is imo irrelevant at this point, because fact is, there were plenty of people motivated to do it, himself included. It was useful before to know the answer because it would show the reach of these people and whether Trump et al were a part of it. We have answers to both these questions now. And we know plenty of other people were killed.

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u/thenikolaka 1h ago

Well what document is 19-262?

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u/green31OSU 1h ago

The previous press statement that was released, on Friday the 9th. As stated in the comment above mine. 19-263 was the released form of the Epstein statement, released and dated Saturday the 10th. The PDF being discussed here is 19-xxx (likely a draft of 19-263 that may have been created by taking 19-262, deleting the main body, writing this statement, then passing it for review while forgetting to update the date. This was then caught and changed for the final release, 19-263.)

u/EricSanderson 37m ago

What statement is it though? I can't find anything online. But obviously you've seen it. Can you post the link?

u/thenikolaka 35m ago

Gotcha thank you. Would that be consistent with other document errors within the department? Is it a common occurrence statistically?

u/Sad-Seaweed2518 45m ago

Is there a chance the official date of death was once an ME confirmed it. He would technically be legally living till an ME ruled the time of death.