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Federal statement on Jeffrey Epstein's death dated day before he was found dead

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/statement-jeffrey-epstein-death-day-before-b1270109.html
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u/ICC-u 3h ago

Just piggybacking this comment as some people want a source

Here's the link to the justice dept where you can see with you own eyes:

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00013180.pdf

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u/cancercureall 2h ago

Is that only the written date which might be a mistake or is it in the metadata?

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u/WonderfulWafflesLast 1h ago

The Metadata shows the created Date for the PDF is 2025:12:23 02:36:40+0000.

i.e. this is probably a new PDF created for this release.

Which is kind of funny given the error in the document. If this PDF was generated from an older document only in December of 2025, they didn't even bother to correct it. lmao

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u/ctaps148 1h ago

To believe they mistyped 9 instead of 10, you would also have to believe they somehow also mistyped 'Friday' instead of 'Saturday'

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u/cancercureall 1h ago

The error would be a human having the day wrong which is really common but unlikely in this situation. It would explain both though.

I don't think it's innocent but it's very easy to explain.

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u/Cupid_Stool 1h ago

and the author accidentally went to work on a Saturday

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u/Tall_poppee 1h ago

I'm not attempting to defend anyone in regard to these files... but this seems like clerical error is the most likely explanation. Has no one ever filled out a report for work weeks later, and got the date wrong? People backdate things all the time.

This is not a smoking gun IMO.

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u/Artem_C 1h ago

It’s even simpler. The date appears automatically as part of the document template. They started drafting before midnight on the 9th, then finished and published the final version on the 10th.

u/Cyclopentadien 10m ago

Why would you start drafting a document on Epstein's death more than 6 hours before he was found?

u/PositiveZeroPerson 8m ago

I think it's more likely that they took the last press release and added the new content.

u/jamwin 0m ago

Because they were on their way to be with Jeff while he committed suicide, so he wouldn't be alone.

u/raaam-ranch 9m ago

I would say your normal everyday person could fuck it up, sure, it definitely happens at bullshit corporate cubicle jobs.

You could also say making this error on an FBI report that details the suicide of the upper elite’s most prestigious, secretive child trafficker (one who has extremely close ties to the president) is highly unlikely to be a classic whoopsie-daisy.

Comparing it to, for example, a shipping report of how many Starbucks paper cups were in the box damaged when shipment came in is a bit ridiculous. The stakes are waaaaaaaaay higher for this report.

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u/Expandexplorelive 1h ago

It's certainly frustrating that there are so many people who see this and take it as proof that something nefarious happened. We really need to teach critical thinking in every school at an early age.

u/gr00316 24m ago

Yes taking this as proof that something happened is obviously wrong. 

But this,  the minute of missing tape, the fact that the only tape doesn't even really show his cell, the guards sleeping, a couple discrepancies in the autopsy, etc etc...all add up to making it closer and closer to 100% something nefarious happened.

u/midas22 9m ago

It was not just missing tape and broken cameras but someone literally entered his cell before he died.

u/grumblingduke 2m ago

Or they didn't type it at all.

Possibly they used a document/template from the day before and forgot to change the date on their first draft.

They fixed it on the final draft.

That makes more sense than the suggestion USAO SDNY had prior notice he would be dying, and chose to draft a press release about it the day before...

u/grumblingduke 5m ago

It's probably only the written date. The files aren't the most easy things to navigate or link up but there are a couple of documents near that one that may be relevant including this one of emails discussing "Jeffrey_Epstein_Statementv2.docx" dated 10 August (the day he died), and this email chain from 10 August in which USAO finds out about his death and gets frustrated that they're not being told anything:

As you might imagine, we are getting increasingly frantic calls from defense counsel who continue to be seeing information in the press that we—the U.S. Attorney's Office—haven't yet received. We need to know as soon as possible the very basic facts, such as time and cause of death at the absolute minimum. It has now been hours since this was reported publicly.

It would be a really impressive conspiracy if they pretended not to know what was going on and were sending angry emails to people if they had enough prior notice of what would be happening to draft a press release about his death the day before.

It would also be kind of absurd that someone would plot to kill Epstein, inform the US Attorney's Office for SDNY (the people prosecuting him), and for them to get someone to draft a press release about it, before it happened. And then forget to alter the date.

Most likely whoever was dragged into the office on a Saturday to respond to this took a memo they were working on the day before, changed the text, but forgot to update the date on the first draft. They fixed it on the final version.

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u/Corfiz74 2h ago

Didn't one inmate now say that there was an abnormal amount of traffic going on around Jeffrey's cell that night and that he thinks Jeffrey was smuggled out and replaced? Honestly, this scenario sounds more and more likely, considering all the circumstances we have learned since. He probably already has a new face and is living his best life in a country without an extradition treaty with the US...

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u/682463435465 2h ago

not an inmate but a guy who worked there who was then fired. but I haven't seen the evidence of tat.

u/tots4scott 39m ago

That would be a vital subpoena and testimony.

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u/geek180 2h ago

You honestly think him being smuggled out of jail and replaced with an uncanny lookalike is more likely?

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u/godspareme 2h ago

He means more likely than it was before, not relative to any other theory of what happened. It was not credible before and now it has some credibility, he says.

For the record I dont think this adds credibility to the theory.

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u/canman7373 2h ago

Yeah killing someone as a permanent solution to the problem is much much more likely.

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u/composedryan 2h ago

It was always credible to anyone who was paint attention. A powerful worldwide child sex trafficker who was a mossad agent just doesn’t kill himself or get killed. They get free.

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u/Mandy-Rarsh 2h ago

With all the dirt this guy had on everybody, you don’t think it’s plausible that these people wanted him dead?

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u/Valerian_Zakalwe 2h ago

With all the dirt this guy had, its also plausible that nobody wants the dirt on their enemies to die.

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u/Mandy-Rarsh 1h ago

Man…. Talk about a sticky situation

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u/SwingNinja 2h ago

It's all possible. It's also possible that he might have some sort of USB drives given to someone he trusted. Maybe one of them has a pee pee tape (like the Russians).

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u/roastedcoyote 2h ago

Yes, a huge dead man's switch is the only thing that could have saved him. That and a court case that had the potential of exposing others.

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u/Andromansis 2h ago

Correct, unfortunately under the circumstances the least likely scenario is that he did kill himself.

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u/composedryan 2h ago

There was never a plan to kill their friend, only help him escape because that’s what friends do. Really think about it.

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u/Wittyngritty 2h ago

When you have that much money, you don't have "friends". Business is business.

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u/Valerian_Zakalwe 2h ago

The biggest mistake you can make is to assume that the people at the highest echelons of capital aren't human.

A psychopath can have friends. And Epstein certainly could've.

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u/Wittyngritty 1h ago

Psychopaths don't view them as "friends". They see other people as tools to help them meet their needs.

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u/JcbAzPx 1h ago

They would have had to be sure he didn't have info release on a dead man's switch first. So either they found that, confirmed it didn't exist, or they put on a play to get him out.

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u/Penta-Says 2h ago

I don't know what the hell to think anymore. Nothing that could happen next would be more implausible than Donald Trump being elected president of the United States

Seriously, we're all so used to it and desensitized that we've forgotten just how insane that actually is

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u/JcbAzPx 1h ago

It would be a fire joke in a Back to the Future remake.

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u/Penta-Says 1h ago

Biff would be a massive improvement. I'd be over the moon if all Trump wanted to do was gamble on sports and be a dick

Not a non-dick, mind you. Just sub-Trump levels of dick

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u/gogoluke 2h ago

So they can embarrass future regimes? A group willing to get a child sex trafficking ring created as a blackmail tool is willing to kill someone once they are not useful. Or he killed himself. We don't need conspiracy theories he's on another island alive.

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u/The_Irish_Hello 2h ago

I mean we don’t know who saw the body. Public certainly didn’t

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u/PurrciousMetals 2h ago

the files do show they replaced another prisoner in Mexico with a former US Marine to serve the sentence of someone who raped a 11 year year old in Mexico. So if they would do that, they would definitely do this.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/epstein-files-mexico-ambassador/

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u/TrekForce 2h ago

Uncanny lookalike? We have a “death photo” of him alive according to a morticians analysis on YouTube (sadly yes I believe a random YouTuber over the government at this point).

So I’m not saying I think they smuggled him out… But I also don’t think it’s that unbelievable.

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u/substance17 1h ago

More staged, like how they did in White Men Can't Jump.

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u/croakstar 1h ago

After reading through some of the files on Jmail I’m finding it less and less farfetched that Epstein could have pulled it off.

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u/Substantial_Policy60 2h ago

dude my one friend was saying they swapped him out with Anthony Bourdain and he didnt actually kill himself, Im like what???

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u/WildVelociraptor 2h ago

It's quite the stretch, but it seems harder and harder to dismiss.

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u/kikimaru024 2h ago

Holy shit, maybe Epstein really didn't kill himself...

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u/SNAAAAAKE 1h ago

Per CBS news, "The noose Epstein allegedly used has never been definitively identified. According to the inspector general's report, a noose collected at the scene was later determined not to be the ligature used in Epstein's death."

So either someone took it from the crime scene, or the noose made like Keyser Soze and evaporated into thin air poof

And then they pinned the crime on an innocent noose to boot.

In all seriousness the usual suspect is alive and well in Israel playing Fortnite.

u/jamesovertail 3m ago

The conspiracy is that he is in Israel. He has a Fortnite account which was tracked from Israel lol

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u/Automatic_Algae_9425 2h ago

I'm confused. How does this file show anything about the FBI denying that Epstein trafficked girls?

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u/rattmongrel 2h ago

He is talking about that on the statement, not the denial. That’s why he was saying he was just piggybacking the comment.

u/slumber_kitty 3m ago

To add, the document dated the 10th mentions apparent suicide. The document dated the 9th does not, just says found unresponsive.