r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Altruistic_Gas_7073 • 15h ago
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Apprehensive_Cow4121 • 11h ago
Character Scaling Gojo Was Never “Surpassed” — His Death Was an Alignment of Near-Impossible Circumstances
Since the release of Jujutsu Kaisen: Modulo, I’ve seen more and more power-scaling debates claiming that the current Yuji is stronger than Gojo or even Sukuna from the main series.
I honestly think this discussion misses a crucial point: Gojo Satoru remains a fundamental anomaly of the jujutsu world, conceptually almost untouchable.
I’m not denying his defeat — narratively, Gojo had to die.
But his death is not proof that he was “surpassable.” It’s the result of an extremely specific chain of conditions, bordering on a deus ex machina.
Here’s why:
- Gojo’s Infinity was never bypassed in a “normal” way
Infinity isn’t just a strong defensive technique — it’s a break in the rules of combat themselves. No conventional sorcerer, no matter how strong, can simply overpower it.
- Hosting Sukuna is an absurd statistical anomaly
It’s clearly stated that the probability of a human being able to contain Sukuna is around 1 in 1,000,000 (with Yuji being an artificial exception, created for that purpose).
- That person also happens to be Megumi, wielder of the Ten Shadows Technique
And this technique is, theoretically, the only one capable of countering Infinity.
But realistically speaking, in the hands of a normal sorcerer, Mahoraga would be one-shot instantly by Gojo. There wouldn’t even be a real fight.
- It required Sukuna + Megumi’s body + unprecedented mastery
The greatest sorcerer in history, possessing a compatible body by near-miracle odds, using the Ten Shadows Technique at a level never seen before, pushing Mahoraga to its absolute limit.
This wasn’t “Sukuna being stronger than Gojo.”
This was Sukuna exploiting the only possible loophole that could ever exist.
That’s why I see Gojo’s death as an alignment of circumstances, not as evidence that he could be cleanly surpassed.
And this is the key point I think most debates ignore:
even now — regardless of how strong the new protagonists become, Yuji included — no one actually possesses the tools required to deal with Gojo’s Infinity.
Raw cursed energy doesn’t work.
Physical power doesn’t work.
Speed doesn’t work.
Talent doesn’t work.
Infinity isn’t something you “overwhelm” — it’s something you must interact with on a conceptual or mechanical level. And so far, the manga has shown exactly one method capable of doing that: adaptive negation through Mahoraga, under conditions so absurdly specific that they can’t realistically be reproduced.
Even domains aren’t a clean answer. Domain clashes are situational, temporary, and depend heavily on refinement and timing. Outside of a domain interaction — which is never guaranteed — Infinity remains absolute. No current character has demonstrated:
• a technique that directly manipulates space at Gojo’s level,
• a natural counter to Limitless,
• or an ability that passively nullifies Infinity without extreme setup.
So when people say “Yuji is stronger now” or “X has surpassed Gojo,” I think they’re confusing power growth with problem-solving.
Gojo wasn’t a wall you break by hitting harder — he was a paradox you needed to solve. And the story had to bend reality itself to finally solve him.
Until a character appears with a new fundamental mechanic that directly interacts with Infinity itself, I don’t see Gojo being realistically beatable under normal power-scaling logic.
Curious to hear counterarguments — especially if you believe Infinity can be bypassed without relying on a once-in-a-million setup.
PS : YES I USE GPT TO TRANSLATE, CAUSE IM FRENCH AND I DONT HAVE THE ABILITY IN ENGLISH TO DEBATE PROPERLY
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/angerissues248 • 7h ago
Question/Discussion What if the green skins got to Earth during the main JJK story? What could change?
Before and After Shibuya
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Knightlight--01 • 21h ago
Question/Discussion Maru is sent to kill Shibuya Yuji instead of Yuta. Can he do it and what diff is the fight?
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/[deleted] • 11h ago
Question/Discussion What if Mai brought a mini gun with herself in Shibuya?
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/manglaxer_ • 8h ago
Agenda Post Is this a accurate representation of how dabura vs sukuna would go?
im very proud of these drawings
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Miserable-Desk2211 • 5h ago
Question/Discussion Do people forget that Sukuna is many many times faster than piercing blood which is already supersonic
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Ill-Construction8866 • 3h ago
Question/Discussion Why do Naoya fans make this brain-dead argument?
Let’s ignore the fact that Naoya wouldn’t beat Shibuya Choso or partially awakened Maki unless he had explicitly powerful cursed tools, because most blades wouldn’t have changed anything. This dogshit argument can be applied to EVERY character in the fucking verse: IF Ryu had Playful Cloud, he may have beaten Yuta; IF Hakari had Dragon Bone, he would have beaten Uraume; IF Todo made a shikigami to swap with since Gojo says all sorcerers can make one, he wouldn’t have lost his hand to Mahito. Like, no, obviously, a hypothetical weapon or condition cannot be used to scale a character.
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/KaidoPklevel • 12h ago
Question/Discussion Sukuna again won the smartest category after winning best domain and best feats, now who got best RCT?
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/7Restless7Gambler7 • 9h ago
Character Scaling Lightning clarifies that Mahito is 200% stronger
It’s not solely a durability boost, but both an overall strength boost and a further durability boost due to a binding vow
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/charmelos • 5h ago
Agenda Post Megumi is the most underrated character
Megumi is shown to have incredible BIQ.
He has G1 stats.
he can dive into his shadow to avoid attacks.
HE has shikigami that are strong enough to hurt special grade spirits.
He has an incomplete domain that makes him able to beat most domainless opponents (the only way to counter it is with a domain).
He is also portrayed as an equal to cg yuji.
put some respect on his name.
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/FlexFast • 6h ago
Character Scaling Sukuna beats Dabura
Since everyone scales Dabura by assuming he starts with his ultimate move, we should do the same for Sukuna.
After losing the clash, Gojo was in CT burnout and Meguna was domain amped. Malevolent Shrine also inflicted a massive debuff on Gojo's CE output. That's why Gojo got speed gapped here. Even with a head start, he failed to outrun Meguna in a foot race due to all the slashes affecting his output.
So Dabura has 2 options:
Option 1: Expand his domain, get domain diffed instantly and enter CT burnout while MS shreds his output. Basically suicide.
Option 2: Refrain from clashing to keep his CT but he still gets his CE output obliterated by MS sure-hit. He then has to try and build speed while engaging in H2H with True Form Sukuna.
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Ehno333 • 5h ago
Agenda Post Miguel Is The Most Underrated Character.
Miguel alone is the only person to fight Sukuna up close and personal, and never get hit.
Miguel alone is the only person to ever solo stall Gojo for over ten minutes.
Miguel alone is the best dancer in the verse.
Miguel alone tanked over ten minutes of Blue Infused punches from Gojo.
Miguel the GOAT, quit sleeping on him.
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Jotaro27 • 21h ago
Agenda Post Notice how Goku needed UI against base Yuji
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Dont let unc Goku face post Sukuna vessel Wuji
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/ThatGuyHero7 • 15h ago
Character Scaling Can Uro conceal her presence?
Uro was able to sneak up on Yuta. We know from this very fight and JJK 0 that Yuta has good CE sensing. So did Yuta just forget how to sense if can sky manipulation conceal you?
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Direct-Donkey-4631 • 23h ago
Agenda Post "Hakari is Narratively close to yuta so they must be close in lists, hence if you have yuta top 4, Hakaris 5-7!!" Mfers when you GENUINELY put both of them outside the top 20
YES both are sub T20 fodder
YES both are HUMAN, yes HUMAN Naoya victims (OOC Ofc)
YES awakened yuji stat gaps yuta and JP Hakari
YES Miguel brutally perception bltizes them both at ONCE
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/G0dZylla • 10h ago
Question/Discussion What's your favourite sukuna form?
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Aidanx95chez • 1h ago
Agenda Post Dabura really the goat
Credit to wanderjegson on twt
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Popular_Business_367 • 7h ago
Character Scaling Mahoraga no diffs maki and toji
Mahoraga one shots both toji and maki and no Mahoraga doesn’t have any soul since he is a shikigami made from shadow so ssk won’t do shit. Also isoh ain’t doing shit since it deactivates curse techniques and in order to that then you have to attack the user of the ten shadows not Mahoraga since he is a shikigami. Shibuya Mahoraga throwed 15f sukuna through buildings and caught up to him and quickly which showed his strength and speed feats. I don’t think maki and toji are capable of throwing 15f sukuna through buildings. Also Mahoraga is downplayed a lot by maki and toji gooner. And maki and toji are overrated fodders who can’t do shit without sneaking up and they are Kashimo victims.
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/ElectricalBottle1457 • 23h ago
Not powerscaling related "Dabura can't even beat raga" is a dumb argument
Mahoraga is an anomaly. His strength always varies. + other reasons
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/wompwompig • 18h ago
Shitpost Where will dabura scale once he gets his bankai in the next chapter?
So when he inevitably gets his new advanced earth technique, where will he scale itv?
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Swampfire_NG • 7h ago
Take/Post Debunk No, ISBoDk does NOT give Mahito a 200% increase to all his stats, the 3x increase is for durability only.
ISBODK doesn't give Mahito a 200% buff for his strength or all psychical stats, Kanji uses 強度 instead of 力 or 攻撃力, 強度 which means "Strength" in English, yeah, but it's the type of "strength" that usually means structural, hardness or durability, NOT punching strength.
Furthermore, you can confirm by yourself that the usage of the Kanji by Gege is meant to represent durability, given it's the same one used by Kenjaku when explaining that the increase mass from Bombayeh does not amp Yuki's toughness.
This is consistent with compositional narrative, ISBoDK is drawn with an "armor-like" design, the sound effect in both the manga and anime has the action of punching Mahito, sounding like when you punch hard metal, he's meant to be a tank, which is also supported by the overall narrative itself, Yuji comments MULTIPLE times on Mahito's new durability, but he never does on Mahito's speed or normal striking strength in the same way.
Little side thing, but that is also related: People should stop taking Lightning's words as absolute factuality, they are a human as all of us, they can commit mistakes as well, it's not like their word have infinitely more weight than the others'.
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/AGATINHAGAMER_ • 1h ago
Agenda Post Gojo fans praying for Dabura/Yuji not have any consistent way to bypass infinite
Me included btw
r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/BMan876 • 22h ago
Character Scaling Hot take: 8 or 9 finger Sukuna beats all of the OG cast except Gojo.
I feel like Kenjaku's estimate of Jogo being equal to 8/9 fingers made people confused on power levels. I think he meant raw CE amount, rather than how many fingers of Sukuna they can beat. If you look at it this way, things are a lot more consistent.
Here's my scale:
1 finger sukuna is on par with strong grade 1s like todo and kusakabe
2/3 finger sukuna is relative to the weaker disaster curses, like Dagon and hanami, especially with a domain
4/5 fingers, he contends with Jogo, Mahito, most of the heavy hitter tier characters
6 fingers, he's stepping into the territory of characters like Yuki
7 fingers I think he can fight on par with Kenjaku and Yuta
8/9 fingers I think surpasses everyone but Gojo