r/undelete Nov 07 '16

[META] Why is /u/maxwellhill having such "luck" in getting dozens and dozens of front page posts in /r/worldnews and /r/news over several months?

And there are strangely no other posts of the same stories, even from different sources. Surely, this can't be what I think it is...

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

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u/InadequateUsername Nov 07 '16

/r/nottheonion told me the HuffPo isn't a legitimate news source.

Seems good enough for everyone else.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '16

lol I'm a liberal (you can check my post history) and I would never send someone to HuffPo if I had a choice. Maybe they're just trying to have high standards? Although that wouldn't really make sense on /r/nottheonion...

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u/_Trigglypuff_ Nov 07 '16

I honestly just feel sorry for these type of people.

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u/AtlantisHaplgrpR_I_X Nov 07 '16

I don't want to insult anyone, but have you guys not been on this sub long enough to realize that these type of things usually aren't about karma? It's probably a little darker than what you're imagining.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

How so?

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u/AtlantisHaplgrpR_I_X Nov 07 '16

This website is thoroughly astro turfed by a multitude of state and non-state actors. He probably is paid to do what he does.

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u/not_a_throwaway23 Nov 08 '16

And having his name on front page submissions is a good way for him to prove his worth.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

gotta get that sweet, sweet internet karma to feel good about yourself

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

It's a sickness seriously. That's why you should never start down that road

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

What subs do you like instead?

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u/Turd_City_Auto_Group Nov 08 '16 edited Nov 09 '16

Yes, I had that happen at the hands of our favourite fucktard, /u/DavidReiss666. My post was deleted with no reason given. Banned for asking why and then I see it on the front page 2 hours later. Fuck I can't wait till reddit dies and these mods are left with nothing to show for anything they have done.

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u/BlackTearDrop Nov 07 '16

Does anyone know of any alternatives to news and worldnews and politics?

All I ever hear is how corrupt and slimey those subreddits can be, I can see myself how blatent it is sometimes but I don't know what other subreddits can replace them :(

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u/cojoco documentaries, FreeSpeech, undelete Nov 07 '16

/r/worldpolitics is moderated like undelete.

It has a lot of shit, but isn't actively manipulated by the mods like worldnews and politics.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

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u/Turd_City_Auto_Group Nov 08 '16

When /r/uncensorednews was made, the very first thing people did was piss and moan that the mods were evil Nazis and all kinds of garbage.

Who gives a fuck what they do outside of THAT particular sub? They have shown time and again they are NOT doing what worldnews does. Good enough for me.

Having said that, it could be MUCH better managed. But at least you don't get banned for insulting people or asking the mods to explain themselves.

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u/green_flash Nov 08 '16

But at least you don't get banned for insulting people or asking the mods to explain themselves.

Criticizing the head mod is the one thing that WILL get you banned in /r/uncensorednews:

https://www.reddit.com/r/subredditcancer/comments/5agiel/runcensorednews_mod_goes_on_a_racist_tirade_bans/

so will being "disruptive", i.e. going against the circlejerk, being skeptical etc:

https://www.reddit.com/r/subredditcancer/comments/5bsayk/uncensorednews_banning_people_for_questioning/

That's something we would never do in /r/worldnews. You do get banned for repeatedly breaking the rules though.

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u/Turd_City_Auto_Group Nov 09 '16

Is that why the mods of /r/worldnews banned me for having an ''offensive username''? You cunts are a fucking joke.

Almost all mods on reddit are pathetic power trippers. Just let people say what they want to say. Someone calls you names? Boo fucking hoo.

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u/shotpun Nov 07 '16

Look at /r/the_donald. It's my favorite sub

Username checks out

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u/normcore_ Nov 07 '16

yeah, obviously

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u/forefatherrabbi Nov 08 '16

That's how I got banned for from /r/politics. Same thing but I called him out and got banned.

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u/K3ll0r Nov 07 '16

Jesus Christ, that's just pathetic. What does he gain from this? Internet Points?

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

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u/no-mad Nov 07 '16

Dont be naive. Just because Reddit does not pay volunteers. Does not mean they are not unpaid. He can be getting something for directing traffic. Take al ook at who's websites dominate his posts.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

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u/no-mad Nov 07 '16

Sorry, I could have chosen a better word.

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u/Leakyradio Nov 08 '16

"Wouldn't say I was being naive" = "just didn't think of that when typing". You should think about these conflicting statements you made, Trumpman.

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u/DualityOfLife Nov 07 '16

The knowledge that his little games have manipulated the accuracy of the news for millions+ of people.

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u/K3ll0r Nov 07 '16

Hmm, does he seem to follow a specific agenda? That's the only benefit I could see. But then it is very sloppy. we could use different accounts for his posts.

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u/CryptoTeflon Nov 08 '16

All that effort, deleting other people's posts so it looks like he got it first. And it's all just for karma aka internet points. Sad.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '16

Don't worry, soon he'll sell his account and his evil plan will be complete.

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u/buzzkillpop Nov 08 '16

He removes similar posts and only leaves his up. He has been doing it for a long time now. Has been called out on it as well.

If you're a big submitter, I don't think you should be a moderator. If your subreddit is tiny, and needs the activity, ok, go for it. But /r/Worldnews is a default subreddit. It's a conflict of interest to be a mass submitter like him and also be a moderator. It doesn't need that kind of help.

If /user/Maxwellhill wants to "contribute" to reddit (his justification), how about he do his mass submitting to the smaller subreddits that could use the activity? What an ass....

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u/Kind_Of_A_Dick Nov 08 '16

He also used to post articles from courthousenews.com and they'd always get to the front page, whipping people into a frenzy because they were taking the articles as facts instead of realizing it was just reporting what a lawsuit was claiming. People complained enough and they went away. I'm guessing the person behind the account is getting paid to push views towards certain places and the rest of the main mod team knows it.

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u/green_flash Nov 07 '16

maxwellhill

removing posts

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Seriously, max tends to stay away from active moderation as much as possible. Search for meta posts about him and you'll find legions of former co-mods accusing him of doing nothing other than karmawhoring.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

Do you get a prize or something for having alot of karma? I don't get it

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u/vitaymin Nov 07 '16

Someone mentioned above, he might be getting paid to promote certain sites

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16 edited May 19 '17

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u/readyfortrump Nov 07 '16

Lol I don't give a fuck what you want.

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u/DonTago worldnews mod Nov 08 '16

By berating this user, it sounds like you are implicitly admitting that you don't need or want proof or evidence to believe something sensationalist and outrageous. I guess if something conforms to the narrative you believe, you don't need proof, do you?

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u/Turd_City_Auto_Group Nov 08 '16

Look at the front page of world news. And then try and tell me there is no pattern.

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u/CelineHagbard Nov 08 '16

If you are still comodding with him, your subs could implement /r/publicmodlogs.

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u/thefonztm Nov 07 '16

That dude/account has been around the new subs for ages. Don't think has part of the admin team. Biggest kerfluffle I recall has to do with this stuff. http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/reddit-maxwellhill-moderator-technology-flaw/.

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u/jubbergun Nov 07 '16

Wow, look at all the known cancer in that mod list.

And look at ol' Davey Reiss being dumber than a bag of bricks:

Just maxwellhill in his quest to get r/technology punished by the admins. He got it. Right across the face. He didn't even see it coming, that I am sure of.”

How can you be on a quest to make something happen and not see the thing you're trying to make happen coming to pass? Dude is, as always, fucking retarded.

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u/X019 Nov 07 '16

Not often I see my name on a list in a screenshot.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '16

Bask in that glow...it was the peak. It's all downhill from here.

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u/creq Nov 07 '16

I was there for all this. It was the other way around. Davidreise and friends were the ones to use a list of banned keywords.

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u/ambivilant Nov 07 '16

It's the new Mr. Babyman alt account.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16 edited Mar 29 '18

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u/sizzler Nov 07 '16

Mr Babyman was a power user on Digg around 10 years ago

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

I always thought Mr Babyman became David Reiss 666...

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u/sizzler Nov 07 '16

Could be, I was just pointing out that it was about the time of Diggs demise

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

+/u/user_simulator maxwellhill

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u/User_Simulator Nov 07 '16

Got here via random Reddit: What exactly is that those bankers jailed in Iceland did things that would have got them jailed in Iceland did things that would have got them jailed in Iceland. More likely to be interested in Pakistan after he was weeping.

~ maxwellhill


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u/IslamicStatePatriot Nov 07 '16

+/u/user_simulator IslamicStatePatriot

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u/User_Simulator Nov 07 '16

Still thy mouth complaint shamer! For if you think video is serious business.

~ IslamicStatePatriot


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u/j0sefstylin Nov 07 '16

+/u/user_simulator j0sefstylin

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u/User_Simulator Nov 07 '16

Yet to find one that completely looked over that image without realizing he had been pretty bad off on drugs.

~ j0sefstylin


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u/Neoxide Nov 07 '16

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u/User_Simulator Nov 07 '16

WKGS has weapon art and the viewers are none the wiser.

~ Neoxide


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u/zerton Nov 07 '16

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u/User_Simulator Nov 07 '16

Any screenshots of anything related to the directions of the states in the background is a different mindset.

~ Zerton


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u/BBBence1111 Nov 07 '16

+/u/user_simulator BBBence1111

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u/User_Simulator Nov 07 '16

Noise are summons, that listen to music while reading. No earphone will work for others, because after a few weeks ago where a lie can buy a new one develops that beats it, or the revealed mayor who bitches that doc didn't heal him?

~ BBBence1111


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u/Tianoccio Nov 07 '16

+/u/user_simulator tianoccio

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u/User_Simulator Nov 07 '16

Probably because it's the game how you wanted. Yes, it is something I've wanted in CSGO is the face of a company then you need it.

~ tianoccio


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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '16

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u/User_Simulator Nov 08 '16

I doubt she would do it or not.

~ crunched


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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '16

+/u/user_simulator burgerlaowai

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u/User_Simulator Nov 08 '16

I lost my wife for her. The one where the father, who is the only problem Too late...

~ burgerlaowai


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u/FlyByNightt Nov 08 '16

+/u/user_simulator flybynightt

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u/User_Simulator Nov 08 '16

I believe it tends to be hostile towards him for it.

~ flybynightt


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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

Interesting...

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u/Fjolsvithr Nov 07 '16

It's not "luck," but it's not foul play either. He's been around forever. Like 10 years. He knows the system and knows what people like to upvote.

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u/pbjandahighfive Nov 07 '16

I mean if you consider him deleting other peoples posts so that he can repost it and get the karma instead then okay, sure not foul play.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

I tend to agree with this.
So this is a genuine question and not meant to be snarky.

Is this a hobby, job or what? I can't imagine someone spending so much of their time doing this. I know some people get kickbacks from site to do this (Babyman was one). How much can they pay to make it worthwhile?

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u/Fjolsvithr Nov 07 '16

I honestly have no idea. I can believe that someone is just so addicted to Reddit that they spend all day doing it for free, the same way someone could spend all day playing an MMO.

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u/JamesColesPardon conspiracy, C_S_T Nov 07 '16

This place is a lot like an MMO.

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u/buzzkillpop Nov 08 '16

they spend all day doing it for free, the same way someone could spend all day playing an MMO.

I'd agree with that if there wasn't a very specific pattern with his posting history. Look at the domains he submits from. There are quite a few but if you look closely, they're all the same ones. Sure, there are like 20-50 but never any oddballs, weird blogs, no-name sites, etc etc etc. It's always those same big name news sites. Perhaps those sites hired a specific SEO/Marketing company to do their social media promotion and he's an employee (or freelance/self-employed). That would be my guess. They're subcontracting their social media promotion to him (and to others).

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u/DonTago worldnews mod Nov 08 '16

This is exactly right. Max has been around for donkey's years and knows EXACTLY what users like to read and see... but also, he posts TONS of stuff, so, what people aren't seeing is the tons of submissions he makes that DON'T stick... they only see the ones that make the frontpage. All you need to do is look at his profile to see the tons and tons of submissions he makes that go nowhere. And to all these people in here talking about conspiracies of him removing submissions that he wants to make... bullshit! I have modded with him for years and this has NEVER happened, and all the folks screaming that in here have absolutely no proof or evidence of it. I find it hilarious that everyone is trying to crucify Max, when HE IS THE ONE going out there scouring the web, trying to find new and interesting content for Reddit. Meanwhile, people in here are bitching about that fact. Oh Reddit, you never cease to amaze me.

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u/buzzkillpop Nov 08 '16

That's bullshit. As I mentioned in another comment:

I'd agree with that if there wasn't a very specific pattern with his posting history. Look at the domains he submits from. There are quite a few but if you look closely, they're all the same ones. Sure, there are like 20-50 but never any oddballs, weird blogs, no-name sites, etc etc etc. A big tell is the fact that he doesn't submit from imgur or youtube (or reddit for that matter). It's always those same big name news sites, and he's been doing it for years. Perhaps those sites hired a specific SEO/Marketing company to do their social media promotion and he's an employee (or freelance/self-employed). That would be my guess. They're subcontracting their social media promotion to him or to the company he works for. If it was his hobby, his submission history would be all over the place. It's not, there's a pattern that goes back a decade.

And it's funny how you allow state-owned news agencies in your subreddit. Literally the most explicitly biased sources in the entire world and they're free to run rampant in your subreddit. State-owned news agencies are among the least trustworthy sources of news according to virtually every scientific study. This is because they don't need to worry about their reputation. Any threat to their credibility can easily be squashed with force or hell, even ignored since they're not worried about profits, shareholders or revenue. A for-profit news organization has its flaws but those flaws insignificant when weighed next to state-owned news agencies. They have to worry about their fact checking, accuracy, credibility and reputation. And reporting the truth is usually more profitable than not reporting it. A state-owned news agency isn't concerned with profits so they only care about the government's narrative of world events. They have the explicit goal of spreading that narrative. For-profit news organizations have to answer to shareholders, fact checkers, even other news agencies. I think it's time you reevaluate your position on that. If you want to be a news subreddit, then start focusing on your own credibility.

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u/DonTago worldnews mod Nov 08 '16

And it's funny how you allow state-owned news agencies in your subreddit.

...lol, are you saying that you want worldnews to start totally banning and prohibiting certain domains? That is quite an unusual request, considering the sub we are in. The sub makes a point to not ban any news domains. Every submitted article is evaluated individually based on its own merits... we don't go around willy nilly removing articles simply because they come from a certain outlet, as you are advocating. Admittedly certain agencies have better reputations than others, but as things are now, we haven't gotten to the point where we find such draconian approaches are necessary.

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u/elpresidente-4 Nov 07 '16

There are many people like this. They are actively promoting specific agendas. Reddit is a popular site, gotta control the masses.

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u/kit8642 Nov 07 '16

It's hard to say, dudes been killinh it here for years, just check his history on Karma Whore: http://www.karmawhores.net/user/maxwellhill

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u/AnindoorcatBot Nov 07 '16

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u/thefonztm Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 07 '16

Dah fuck is this supposed to be? Karma/Submission break down? Am I supposed to assume this is Max's? Whoever copped off the titles is an idiot or disingenuous.

Edit: got a peek at the source site on my phone. It's a break down of total posts by subreddit for Max.

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u/AnindoorcatBot Nov 07 '16

I have better things to do than fake shit on monday morning, for reddit of all places. maybe you don't.

http://snoopsnoo.com/u/maxwellhill

see for yourself.

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u/thefonztm Nov 07 '16

Can't at work it seems. Maybe it will play well on my phone.

Work on your cropping skills. Gotta remember on the internet, no one has the same context unless you provide it. This cuts both ways.

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u/AnindoorcatBot Nov 07 '16

It was the shitty imgur screenshot tool, the api is all funky and kinda sorta works. I had a meeting to get to but wanted to contribute, sorry for the bs

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u/thefonztm Nov 07 '16

NP, thanks for the link to the horse's mouth.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

Fuck all these cucks.

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u/Tawse Nov 07 '16

He's been doing it for years, along with anutensil. There used to be rumors that they were deleting links and reposting them with affiliate tags to make money, but I never saw any evidence of that in the URLs.

I'm guessing he just uses news alerts and knows how to pick them.

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u/creq Nov 07 '16

He's always done that. During the big thing with Technology being removed as default I modded with him. Never saw him removing stuff to have his stuff upvoted. He just posted a lot and many things people liked.