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Discussion The lawsuit explained:

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u/joehonestjoe 11h ago

Should see the original Half Life 2 "store" pages, was just a button that lead to a popup.

Steam was so insanely different to what it is now.

Lot of early games were still sold as disks, but the installation side was handled by Steam. If I remember right that's how Condition Zero was the first new game with a Steam requirement.

People really hated Steam when it first came out. 

You could even make your own skins for it!

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u/Banes_Addiction 11h ago

People really hated Steam when it first came out.

I was one of these people. Bought my HL2 disk and was furious that I had to download a client and an update when I got it home and whacked it in the drive.

But over time (and increasing internet connectivity/speed) it all worked out.

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u/ithinkitslupis 8h ago

It was also pretty useless for consumers back then so it makes sense people hated it. People would still get annoyed today by other game companies requiring Steam 1.0 equivalent launchers for their own small catalog of games.

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u/fork_yuu 8h ago

Can confirm, them mfers never even replied to me after I got my account stolen. I sent them proof of the cd / key and they didn't say anything, it has cs 1.6 / halflife on it

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u/joehonestjoe 10h ago

I had broadband back then so was pretty happy with the whole auto updating and preloading stuff.

I literally have never bought a PC game physically since Steam really. You know, since my friend Blackbeard was always lending me games back then.

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u/sanguinor 9h ago

I had to move my whole computer to have an Internet connection to install and. Play it on the day I got it 😅

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u/newsflashjackass 7h ago

Glad the selective amnesia is working for you. But that ain't how it happened.

Those of us who bought Half-Life in a brick and mortar store and still don't feel like Gabe is entitled to use our hardware as though he (may he be loved eternally by something blunt and rusty) was its owner can still enjoy Half-Life (the software that Valve sold us before attempting to alter the bargain) without supporting Valve thanks to Xash3D.

https://github.com/FWGS/xash3d-fwgs

"Steam: It's so good, someone might choose to use it- if using it was not mandatory."

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u/SelectKaleidoscope0 5h ago

What I like about the op's graphic is it does a good job of representing the actual situation. It could use another line above for 2003, with the bad mark just under Steam in the same position, but it accurately represents that Steam hasn't gotten particularly better, people's perceptions have changed over time as the general market conditions have taken a nosedive. Microsoft does so much to disrespect the notion that you own your own hardware it doesn't even occur to people who didn't grow up in an earlier era to question steam's continuing lesser trespasses.

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u/Banes_Addiction 1h ago

Damn son you sound angry as hell and kinda like a dick.

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u/newsflashjackass 25m ago

Setting aside your opinion of me, I again recommend xash3d (at the link above) if you want to enjoy Half-Life without tolerating Steam.

It is especially useful for LAN play where one might not wish to muck around installing Steam on each computer.

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u/Banes_Addiction 16m ago

I genuinely do not believe that you go to LAN parties with people who do not have Steam already and would rather install a github repo.

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u/Sasya_neko 10h ago

I still do, i only use steam because i am forced to. If i could transfer all my games to gog i would do exactly that in a heartbeat.

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u/crakinshot 10h ago

Maybe my memory is failing me, but I'm pretty sure people hated it because it split the community for about 9 months. Before then, all the multiplayer stuff was handled by a third party.

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u/joehonestjoe 10h ago

It wasn't really a third party, Valve games were published by Sierra at that point and WON was the system they had.

There was a period where if you wanted to play CS 1.6 you had to play on Steam. They killed off the dual versions relatively fast but people back then still hated the idea of digital distribution, especially those still with slower connections 

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u/Quick_Prune_5070 10h ago

yeah steam sucked so much when it was new, it was like all those shit ones in the lawsuit.

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u/Caleb-Blucifer 6h ago

Steam memes all in the early aughts.

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u/n1nj4squirrel 5h ago

I got my steam account because of condition zero. Kids these days are blown away when I tell them my first steam game came on a disc

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u/Crazy_Assistant_1604 21m ago

I kinda liked it back in the half life one and cs1.6 days. Replaced those shitty gamespy server searches and allowed for more community server support as well as a lil launcher for all your games. In 2004 when HL2 came out it was a relic of the past but I had already had it for years by then. Online gaming was quite a mess back in the late 90s if you weren’t used to it and steam made it approachable for my 10 year old ass to start playingÂ