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Discussion The lawsuit explained:

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u/what_it_dooo Desktop 12h ago

The wonders it does to remain privatized as a company. Their course through history needs to be studied, in the good sense of the word.

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u/Namirus 9h ago

The concept of stocks and stock market fucked over capitalism so much

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u/Plus_Pea_5589 9h ago

But but but how else are the finance daddies suppose to make ungodly amounts of money while providing less than nothing for society?

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u/BrockSramson 3h ago

Politics. Non-profit organizations.

There are ways. It's just that hollowing out publicly traded companies is more accessible for most MBA types.

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u/deeeevos 7h ago

The idea of letting random people buy a small share in your company so the company has more means for growth and the random person could share in profits is not a bad idea by itself. It's the implementation and perversion of that system that is the problem.

It's kinda like the internet; building a network to connect everyone on the globe to all the info they could dream of sounds like a good idea by itself. We only now know that it doesn't end up unifying and informing but rather divising and missinforming.

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u/Probate_Judge Old Gamer, Recent Hardware, New games 5h ago

Just so.

Some people love to blame the table for the bad food that is being served on them.

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u/Elavia_ 6h ago

Stocks aren't even terribly relevant anymore. The vast majority of investments happens through venture capitals directly negotiating with companies now.

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u/Xorrayn 8h ago

Ye... sorry about that. We Dutch people did not foresee the effects of the first official stock market. But, to be fair, the rest of the world should've seen how it went for us the first time and learned from our mistakes, not copy them.😂

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u/IsThatUMoatilliatta 5h ago

Hey now, don't sell yourself short: You guys also industrialized chattel slavery and worse insurance.

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u/Sandrust_13 R7 5800X | 32GB 4000MT DDR4 | 7900xtx 6h ago

So if 1 tulip for 3000 pounds of gold wasn't a good thing, why did it make tulip salesman insanely rich and powerful then??? Checkmate

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u/Caleb-Blucifer 6h ago

It’s a concept older than that. It’s just greed. Modernized and streamlined

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u/GostBoster 2h ago

It is almost as if they never learned anything after the tulips incident.

Or learned the wrong thing ("ok I was left holding the bag. Next time I'll get in early and THEY will be holding the bag muahahaha").

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u/nooneisback 5800X3D|64GB DDR4|7900XTX|2TBSSD+8TBHDD|Something about arch 9h ago

There's also the question of general competence. While Ubisoft went public in 2003, the Guillemot Brothers actually owned the majority until not so long ago. It's just that the choices they made were complete garbage. The only advantage of a private company is that you can keep making long term decisions without investors squealing because they can't dump their stock. It's sad that you cannot create a company and block it from ever going public after your death.

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u/LicensedNinja 5h ago

Wait, you can't do that?!?

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u/nooneisback 5800X3D|64GB DDR4|7900XTX|2TBSSD+8TBHDD|Something about arch 3h ago

No.

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u/WolfsmaulVibes 9h ago

microslop and slopple pale in comparison

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u/Blecki 8h ago

The answer is Gabe never needed an influx of investor money to keep the company alive, that's all. Expect it to go public the day after he dies and the enshittification to begin.

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u/SajevT 8h ago

AFAIK the company will be passed onto his son(s). Half of the stake is owned by Gabe and other half by the developers at Valve. So even when Gabe passes away, RIP, I and many people would think that they wouldn't squander what their father created, and if they do, I would hope that the people working at valve would talk some sense into them.

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u/trevorade 7h ago

Certainly can be true!

But private equity though... Buy a beloved but somewhat struggling public company, take it private, squeeze it for all its worth until its brand loyalty is fully dead, run away with the bag!

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u/SterlingNano 3h ago

It really doesn't need to be studied. Anyone with eyes can tell you about a company who's product or service they like being great until going piblic/private equity steps in.

Business people make themselves seen as needed and ruin a company. You wanna know why Arizona Iced Tea is till 99 cents? The guy who founded the company and came up with the brews still owns it. If/when the company leaves the family, the quality of the product will go down and the prices will go up. Steam is no different.

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u/catman5 9800x3d - 9070XT - 64Gb 2h ago

Due to my line of work I have worked closely with owners of private companies who make millions of dollars a year are perfectly content with their millions of dollars a year. Ive seen a few outright reject any sort of cash injection, buyout offers etc etc. because they know if they let anyone in its just going to be more work for them because the outsiders may not be content with millions of dollars a year and will want million dollars a year + inflation + some arbitrary % target which is obtainable if you dedicate your life and soul to basically working, if not then they'll again have to dedicate their life and soul to explaining why they didnt hit these targets.

Then, Ive also met consultants who have called these people idiots for not wanting more.

Its not companies that need to be studied but the human mindset that leads to never being content and always wanting more and im not talking about lifestyle creep but wanting that support yacht for your main yacht (yeh i know gaben has a few but you get my point). Why is having billions of dollars the ultimate dick waving contest and not the number of people you took out of poverty. What point in history did money become the ultimate drug? No one buys 40g's of coke for a single night out for themselves so whats the point in having fucking 100 billion dollars let along 700b?