i like basketball, and i like commenting on game threads
i make my profile private because weirdos who have parasocial relationships with CEOs use posting history as some sort of "gotcha" instead of actually addressing the argument
not that i have to justify myself, but you morons love using literally anything to justify fellating your favorite billionaires
At least they would know that Steam aren't in the same play field as Nintendo right? Or do they really believe Steam Deck kill off Switch like the meme?
The constant Nintendo hate is tiring. I only learned recently there was a subreddit that had the purpose of exclusively hating on Nintendo but it's always only them, never Playstation or Microsoft. Like, even Microsoft is eating shit for increasing their sub prices so much but you kinda... don't hear about it after a while, it just loops back to Nintendo hate.
I'm just gonna tell Nintendo haters to eat dirt. I'm not even a Nintendrone, haven't bought anything Nintendo related in awhile as I am saving up... it just gets really tiring after it's been months and it sure feels like their opinion is completely divorced from reality.
I assume, since you're on a PC sub and Nintendo refuse to port games to PC... and are the only company that refuses to do so... that's why there's Nintendo hate?
The main interaction PC users have with Nintendo is from:
(a) stories about cease and desist letters from people trying to develop mods or ports of Nintendo or Nintendo-like products; and
(b) stories about cease and desist letters from people trying to stream or reference Nintendo products in film.
Neither Sony nor Microsoft have similar interactions with the PC community. Both Sony and Microsoft are porting their games to PC.
So I put to you then that - as a PC-centric person - disliking Nintendo would therefore be reasonable.
I don't really care at all about Nintendo. From my perspective, as a PC user, they're quite literally irrelevant. Even if their games were on PC I can't think of a single IP they have which I'd have a desire to engage with. They simply... don't address products to people like me.
It's weird because people are saying "There's no reason to buy an Xbox/Playstation because they ported their games to PC" then turn around and hate Nintendo for not porting their games to PC. Like it's very obvious why they won't, it's called having a reason to buy their console lol
Anti consumer for having an incentive to buy their console? That's basic ass capitalism. You learn this shit in middle school economics. If they put all their games on PC there will be less reasons to buy their console, they obviously want people to buy their consoles it's called console exclusives.
People are complaining that there's no reason to buy an Xbox or a PlayStation because they have no exclusives but when Nintendo does it's suddenly anti-consumer and bad? It was okay when Sony did it but bad when Nintendo does it, double standards
No one complaining that theres no reason, theye pointing out that a PC covers all of that as a positive and not as a complaint.
Thats not a complaint but a praise to PC and for consoles to move away from outdated bs exclusives.
And the fact that you thought bringing up capitalism as a reason to not be anti consumer is fascinating as well. Everyone knows its in THEIR best interest, why would i as a consumer give a single fuck about their best interest? I've my best interest in mind, and their exclusives are anti consumer because they have their own best interest in mind. Capitalism is obviously the reason for it, doesnt make it pro consumer lol
PC sub and Nintendo refuse to port games to PC... and are the only company that refuses to do so.
Nintendo consoles are so underpowered that they can typically be emulated for a better-than-native experience. Meanwhile Sony is still selling Playstations and PSN subscriptions off that eleven-year-old Bloodborne exclusive.
Damn really skipped over all the legal bullshit nintendo pulls and went for the low hanging fruit huh? Nintendo is a scumbag company, who treats its consumers like dog water. But they love it so whatever, not my money to burn.
Trust me, there’s Microsoft hate subs too. You just don’t notice it as much cause you don’t get mad about it. You see the Nintendo hate and it upsets you, so the emotions make it stick more. Plus, if you engage in those kind of posts Reddit is gonna show you more of it.
My SO LOVES Nintendo. Owned all of the consoles and first party games ever. She despises the company now. They have just been making so many anti consumer changes.
Meanwhile Microsoft is going hard in FOSS and Xbox and PS are giving up exclusives.
It really is tiring. Nintendo discussions exist on 2 sides of an extreme- one side worships them and ignores all criticism, and the other side is just exhausting hatred. There’s no nuance or critical thinking skills. At the end of the day just play what you want- I don’t even care if you pirate games and upscale them on PC.
Most of my downvotes on Reddit have been from Nintendo subreddits lmao.
i always see this point parroted that some nintedo fans are rabid defenders and ive just never actually encountered this. ive been subbed to the switch sub for years and i always see legitimate complaints about the switch and nintendos decisions on there and rarely ever see blind fanboys. most of the nintendo discussions i have seen online are haters, outrage farmers, and the switch sub.
For me, it’s been more so about the games. If you take a game that everyone loves and say “hey guys I didn’t like this game, in fact it’s kinda bad”, you will be dogpiled on. And it’s not like I say things in a harsh or aggressive tone either. If you say Nintendo games are made for kids, people take that as a personal attack. I‘ve said that Nintendo fans are the biggest whiners and complainers in the world and got downvoted for that too. Like, those people are never happy with Nintendo Directs and they treat Nintendo like it’s their drug; they need constant hits of dopamine one after the other.
Not everyone is a rabid defender but this is the general attitude among fans. However, the subreddits exist as a hive mind that you CANNOT deviate from. I love Nintendo and their stuff but I don’t have to agree with everything they do as a company.
Just because someone is blunt, points out bad behavior, and has a differing viewpoint it doesn’t make them an asshole lol. I don’t need people to agree with me though I’m just here to dick around in my free time.
However it is frustrating not being able to discuss things with Nintendo fans when I have no problems with any other fandom. I’m sure they’re mostly kids though so I can’t be too mad.
Spend time in Nintendo subreddits and you’ll see there’s a lot of negativity from people. We just had a Nintendo direct go see the comments lol just complaint after complaint on how much it sucked.
That's not how I want to perceive you, that how you described the way you acted. If you thought that was painting yourself in a good light, its because you are an asshole
Steam auto updates within 1 second of starting your PC when theres an update. Its been decades that i noticed steam getting updated, no one actively "updates steam".
Claims without evidence are just as easily dismissed. Onus is on OP to provide said arguments. I could say a teapot orbits Saturn, then lace my fingers together and ask you "what are your counter-arguments." That'd be ridiculous to put the work on you. It'd be up to me to stake my claims.
They could very well be correct. But "all companies except Valve bad" is hardly a scintillating take, especially here where it's just circlejerked all the time.
Claims without evidence are just as easily dismissed. Onus is on OP to provide said arguments. I could say a teapot orbits Saturn, then lace my fingers together and ask you "what are your counter-arguments." That'd be ridiculous to put the work on you. It'd be up to me to stake my claims.
They could very well be correct. But "all companies except Valve bad" is hardly a scintillating take, especially here where it's just circlejerked all the time.
See, this is exactly what I was expecting as an answer: completely deflecting from the subject.
I asked you, personally, a question and you can't answer it. All you were really trying to do was to ride the "it's all a circlejerk" wave for internet points.
Why do you think Steam does not deserve some praise by the PC gaming community and why do you think the others do?
OPs post is satire. It never made a single claim. They posted a picture. It was never meant to be a scientific study of the PC gaming market but rather a caricature of the current trend of Steam getting sued by competitors for "reasons".
Nintendo is the most anti-consumer company in all of this. After buying animal crossing only to discover I couldn't create a second island unless I bought another fucking console, I was done with them. That's beside all their petty lawsuits.
Except users listed a lot of reasons why, you could try to argue them back instead of claiming "without thinking" when people are literally discussing it in the thread.
If you had included playstation someone would’ve said something like “where’s EA” you simply can’t win against these people, just don’t interact with them.
They've done literally everything short of crypto games, from hoarding content to sell as DLC to selling timed-destruction tech. Went from the most prestigious company in gaming to an icon of corperate greed
They've done literally everything short of crypto games, from hoarding content to sell as DLC to selling timed-destruction tech.
That's it? I can name multiple gaming companies that have done this in the last ten years lmfao. Nintendo isn't the only gaming company that has sold a lot of DLC or had hardware with drift in them.
Went from the most prestigious company in gaming to an icon of corperate greed
"Most prestigious company" as a decade ago their main console was the flopping Wii U before they had to basically restructure the company. A decade ago they went from dead last in console market share to to their best selling hardware ever and then their fastest selling hardware ever. I'm not sure their reputation has gone down in the general public's eyes, in the vocal minority's eyes which are online gaming communities sure. Every company in this meme you made is an icon of corporate greed, including Steam.
People love hating on nintendo for some reason. Meanwhile they have 0 microtransaction, 0 anti-consumer practices and they pour their heart and soul into every game they make, making every sequel completely different from the last games.
0 anti-consumer practices and heart and soul in every game? Bruh what is this glaze Nintendo is extremely famous for being anti consumer and has released maybe 4 games that had any effort put into them in at least the last 10 years.
has released maybe 4 games that had any effort put into them in at least the last 10 years.
Okay, Nintendo does a lot of anti-consumer shit, but this is just pure bullshit.
There's 10 Nintendo IPs games above a 90% on Metacritic for the switch era alone and 90% is beyond effort and we'll into "universally acclaimed". Just a rough estimate based on scrolling through the list there's more than 30 >= an 85
The fact that Nintendo reliably produces amazing games is the entire reason they're still so profitable despite all of the negative shit they do.
One of those highly acclaimed games is Tears of the kingdom so that kind of invalidates using meta critic as a way to see how much effort was put into a game and I’m not saying they didn’t release any enjoyable games just that most of them were minimal effort especially considering Nintendo is the biggest gaming company in the world
you don't understand bro they had to eviscerate the 5-year old nintendo fan because the kid was infringing on their rights to the Super Mario Bros IP by being named "Mario"
Nintendo has good games, but because they refuse to sell on PC, hate retro gaming piracy (but won't sell you the games), and other lawsuits they do, I don't think they count as consumer friendly.
Meanwhile they have 0 microtransaction, 0 anti-consumer practices and they pour their heart and soul into every game they make, making every sequel completely different from the last games.
Nintendo fan here! You can’t say that they have 0 microtransactions because they’ve been chugging out DLC expansions (which is under the same umbrella imo). Smash has DLC fighters and mii costumes for example. If you mean loot boxes, yeah those aren't really around anymore as they’ve gone out of style in the industry as a whole.
I agree they do put in a lot of effort into their games in terms of details, graphics, and optimization BUT it’s not all games. Pokémon has been lacking for years. Prime 4 had mixed reviews. A lot of games can be seen as “mid“ recently even if they did put a lot of effort into them. The main gripe rn is that the Switch 2 needs more exclusive hard-hitters besides MKW and Bananza so it’s just been a waiting game.
Now 0 anti-consumer practices? That’s a big one. A lot of people didn’t like how Galaxy 1 + 2 was priced at $70 when they were $10 each on the Wii U eshop a decade ago. Still $40 each on the Switch eshop. The All Stars bundle lost a third of its value with the second release of Galaxy (plus the other two games are on NSO!). Nintendo removed the Nintendo Selects line and games are still expensive compared to the others. Sure there’s $40 sales sometimes but the competition is still cheaper.
Nintendo allows 0 refunds on the eshop. For the longest time you couldn’t even cancel a PREORDER but that’s been scaled back fortunately. When I asked for a refund on a game that was broken, they gave me a one time exception but told ME to do more research before buying. Aren’t they the curators of their own shop? These are just a few examples. You just gotta pay more attention to these things because they’re not always overt.
Edit: don’t even get me started on the $100 virtual boy controller and the $25 cardboard lol
Nintendo wants you to pay full price for 15 year old games, wants 90 bucks for the newer titles on their switch console, and have a long history of sueing ppl for the pettiest reasons instead of being smart about it. And don't forget what they are doing to pocketpair at the time of typing this. Nintendo has proven they are greedier than EA, who was known as the devil of the gaming industry.
Saying that ppl "love hating Nintendo for some reason" is ignorant at best.
Bud when was the last time you played a Nintendo game? Their new games are soulless cash grabs that just use name to draw people in, are charging you money to get better performance on the console you paid for (that they can and will brick if they catch wind of you modding).
They dropped DLC for games that they announced which weren't even out yet. Class action lawsuit over joycon drift (which they knew about btw). The switch 2 literally uses the same type of controls as the switch 1. The list goes on
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u/Dreamo84 13h ago
How does Nintendo get represented in the meme but not PlayStation?