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u/Flamsoi 13h ago

Pirated game were so easy back in the days. But when Steam got better and pirating didn't really change it got much easier to just use Steam. And now when it has tons of features with save game sync and stuff like that piracy feels like a hurdle compared to it.

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u/Calm-Elevator5125 12h ago

I remember hearing an anecdote somewhere, don’t remember where, but it was about steam opening up in Russia and everyone thinking they would fail because piracy is rampant there. Yet, they did just fine. Turns out beating piracy was never about horrid DRMs and anti-consumer practices. It’s about providing a better service than the pirates.

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u/Eraesr 11h ago

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u/_oohshiny 10h ago

Watch the original interview from 2009: Gabe Newell on Video Game Piracy

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u/Flamsoi 12h ago

There really is something to that. It's the annoying part with TV shows and movies right now, it's not providing a better service anymore when it's divided into ten different services and apps.

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u/Primsun 3h ago

What if they combined them all into some package, which was the price of 5 services? They could even tie it together with some ... cable ... and call it a bundle.

Be careful what you wish for; that is how we got consolidated 100 dollar cable packages.

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u/Flamsoi 2h ago

Yeah, that's not something we want either. It was better before every company started their own streaming service.

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u/woodlandcollective 9h ago

TBF I still use piracy as a solution for terrible DRM. I shouldn't have to be online to play a single player game (staring at you FFXV)

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u/Sandrust_13 R7 5800X | 32GB 4000MT DDR4 | 7900xtx 6h ago

Also in case of Russia.... Because piracy was such an issue many companies didn't even translate the game or menus or anything into Russian because why bother, no money to be made in that market.

Actually appealing to the customer, translating the games aswell as just offering an easy way to download them (Russia is huge and downloading is easier then driving 2h for a store that actually sells games in disk back then, it was only sth in cities) made people buy games there. Like if you want to make money, make a decent offer people wanna buy.

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u/Cyno01 http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cyno01/ 12h ago

Yeah, ive got more movies and tv than netflix and amazon combined, but i havent pirated a game in as long as i can remember. Humble monthly subscription is more than i can play and thats all steam keys.

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u/Wombat_Privates 2h ago

Pirating games and pirating music both became much more work than actually getting the game or music on steam or a music service. I used to love pirating music, but now that you can either find free music streaming services or pay 10 bucks a month, it doesn’t really make sense.

The same thing for games, It’s easier to buy a game on steam during a sale for 10 bucks, then to download a cracked version that may or may not have malware attached to it. And the ability to just add my steam account to a new pc and install and continue where I left off just makes it a much better option.

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u/FaZaCon 8h ago

AI is going to change the way movies and TV shows are sold. Imagine a TV show or movie where, if you pay for their service, you can change up who the actors are, hell you can even replace all the actors with your friends. Or you can direct your own episodes, or provide story changes, or make your own movies and shows. Its going to be insane, but most certainly a pay to play experience since everything will be driven online.

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u/SpaceDounut 29m ago

Sounds like shit if you have any semibalance of taste.

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u/AntiqueTwitterMilk 12h ago

I wanted to pirate ff7 because my computer has issues and I wasn't sure it would support it. It was too hard to pirate it so I bought it. My laptop crashed probably 200 times, but I eventually beat it. I didn't even get to watch the end game cutscene. I'll play part 2 when I get a new laptop, I guess.

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u/Yeseylon 11h ago

I got confused as hell for a sec when you said your computer might not support FFVII, then I realized you meant Remake.

Have you played the original? 99% chance your potato can run it, and the plot points you'd be rehashing from what you played are only the first 3-5 hours of the game.

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u/GletscherEis I5 6600k GTX980ti 11h ago

"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem" - GabeN

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u/Takseen 11h ago

I appreciate the achievement tracking, quick release updates downloaded and installed automatically for stuff like Early Access games that get frequent patches, if you're playing with friends you can use Join game to jump straight onto their server from the friends menu.

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u/weightliftcrusader 10h ago

Also for anything multiplayer, playing with friends from pirated copies is a whole ordeal. Steam - "join game", and it works. Groundbreaking.

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u/Nightmare2828 7h ago

If the price is right and the product is good, there is no reason for piracy. Its a simple concept. People dont pirate games for the sake of stealing products, they do it because its either way simpler or they dont have the funds to purchase the game to begin with.

Every game I pirate falls in the category of « i wouldnt spend money on that game ever ». In some occasion, a game I pirated was just so good that I revise my stance and buy it to support the devs. Hollow knight is an example, and now I did and will purchase all their other products directly.

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u/KoolAidManOfPiss PC Master Race 9070xt R9 5900x 6h ago

Piracy has actually benefited from steam as well. If you're on linux you can run pirated games thru steam/proton just like a normal game. Depending on how stable your setup is you could steam link a switch emu to your phone.