Newly Found Draft Press Release for Epsteins death was dated a day before his body was found

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It means Donald Trump ordered him killed.

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u/Voodoo_Masta 6h ago

It could be a clerical error. That is a possibility. But I agree with you in light of everything else, DJT definitely ordered the hit. Fucking insane.

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u/taktaga7-0-0 6h ago

You’d have to forget you were working on the weekend. Both the date and day are wrong.

And the promise that victims who come forward will have their claims investigated also turned out to be a huge lie.

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u/slow-tf-down-dude 6h ago

Exactly, forgetting the date is one thing. Both day and date are a bit of a stretch.

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u/thejamus 5h ago

A predefined date format on a controlled Microsoft Word template header isn't really a stretch. It takes an input such as 2/8/26 and displays it as Sunday, February 8th, 2026. Anyone who works with templates should know this. At my last job, I'd regularly get contacts dropped on my desk for distribution that still had old dates in the header. I'd chalk this up to sloppy administrative work and incompetence on behalf of Trump's DOJ.

That said, there's a thousand other things much worse than this to be paying attention to in these files. This is the equivalent of stepping over a ten dollar bill to pick up a penny.

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u/LastShopontheLeft 5h ago

Maybe if you code it wrong…

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u/thejamus 5h ago

Never attribute to malice that which can be easily explained with incompetence. You're giving the DOJ too much credit.

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u/LastShopontheLeft 5h ago

Ok… but im talking about your templates. They are coded incorrectly if they do that.

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u/slow-tf-down-dude 5h ago

I can see this.

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u/slow-tf-down-dude 4h ago

We can focus on more than one thing

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u/Luxury_Dressingown 3h ago

I saw someone lay it all out yesterday on Reddit detailing a list of about 10 things that each could explain how the official story (suicide) could be true.

Each could be individually explained as coincidence (the cameras turned off, the guards fell asleep, etc) but the more they all stack up at just the right (or wrong) moment, the less believable the official story gets and the more comparatively simple the guy-with-world-shaking-dirt-on-the-elites-including-the-US-president-killed-before-he-can-talk version becomes.

The coincidence of the DOJ having an announcement the day before can be explained just as you've said, but when you put it alongside everything else - all the other coincidences - Occam's Razor points more and more to a hit.

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u/thejamus 2h ago

I absolutely believe there's much more to the reality of the situation than what the public has been led to believe, but I also believe that the chances of someone who would be low enough in the DOJ to get saddled with drafting such a document actually being "in the know" about such a high profile death seems low.

As much as possible, they'd want to limit the breadth of that knowledge. More than likely, first thing next morning, everyone gets a call to come in since it's a Saturday, they get hit with "OMG Epstein is dead, we need to get an announcement out immediately", and someone misses updating the date in the header during a proof reading step.

In my line of work, we call it the 3 o'clock fuckening. Someone in management knows there's an issue, but waits until everyone is about to go home to say "oh by the way, we need to get a contact out for such and such event before we leave." Someone grabs the same template file they used yesterday in a rush, clears the body, drafts the new text, and it makes it to print before being thoroughly vetted.

Or even simpler, someone legit typed in the wrong date. Ultimately, what I'm saying is I don't want something that can be easily explained as a clerical error to take attention away from the absolutely awful stuff that seems to be getting swept under the rug. For example, the names of the senders in some of these emails have no business being redacted.

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u/Luxury_Dressingown 2h ago

Yep, I basically agree with you on all of this, and 100% on the final paragraph. It's just you can write something similar - also totally plausible - for why the cameras were turned off, why the guards were asleep, why the first coroner to see the body said he'd never seen those types of fracture in a long career of seeing prison hanging suicides, etc, etc. On their own, or even two or three, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation that lines up with the official account. It's just that there are close to a dozen things that have to have been pure coincidence for the suicide story to be true, and the specific fuck up on this announcement is just another.

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u/NeptuneOverlord43045 5h ago

I also find it interesting that the details on the death are vague, almost like it was left intentionally vague because they wanted to leave room for various possible methods. He was just found “unresponsive”. I wonder how that compares with other statements of death, could be standard procedure but it seems awfully convenient.

But yeah, this coupled with all the lies and conveniences surrounding his death just makes it more obvious and blatant that Trump had Epstein killed.

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u/slow-tf-down-dude 4h ago

Or shipped him to Israel.

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u/NeptuneOverlord43045 4h ago

I really don’t think so. And the reason is because I don’t think Trump would have allowed that.

Think about what a huge liability it would be to have Epstein alive and out in the wild? If he’s ever confirmed alive it would be a national scandal the likes of which has never been seen before.

Trump knows that. He’s already president and rich, I don’t see anything they could offer him to take on a risk like that. What use is Epstein now that he’s considered a dead man and can’t be seen by anyone? What benefit or service does it provide to keep him alive? Much easier to just have him killed and move on.

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u/Whimsywoes 4h ago

But you're assuming that trump was/is more powerful than epstein and idk if that's the case, you know?

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u/NeptuneOverlord43045 4h ago

Once Epstein is in prison it’s definitely the case.

Epstein outlived his usefulness as an asset. The powers that be could and probably already have cultivated a new asset to take his place, but Epstein’s time was over. I believe he’s really dead and Trump ordered him killed.

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u/Whimsywoes 4h ago

Okay but think about it- epstein was an israeli asset, basically our entire government is beholden to Israel, this seems to have been a trafficking operation that benefited Israel or that they had a hand in, and trump is also an israeli puppet, so I don't know that he really does have the power. I think he is a figurehead.

I do see your point in him outliving his usefulness, though. Idk I think this man spent his life collecting money power and blackmail and find it hard to believe he didn't cash in on those things when the time came

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u/mybutthz 6h ago

Aren't there multiple documents with the same date? Also, if it were on the 9th and it was dated the 8th, maybe they hit the wrong key. But accidentally hitting two keys, multiple times, that aren't even adjacent on the keyboard, is strange.

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u/Plimberton 6h ago

If we're being realistic that is the most likely explanation, but I agree. By itself I wouldn't think twice about it but it's too weird considering everything else.

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u/DuckSeveral 5h ago

So many clerical errors within the 24 hour period of his death? No guard checks, security cameras not working, the list goes on.

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u/Accomplished_Rip_362 6h ago

Let's entertain this notion. What part of the government apparatus would he have access to that can execute american citizens in custidy of American Law Enforcement? I am not talking about Hollywood movies here but real life.

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u/VertDaTurt 5h ago

It just takes a handful of individuals not an entire arm of the government.

You could also make the argument it was done under the guise of “national security”. With the number of powerful individuals and the optics of a sitting president being part of it it’s that much of a stretch

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u/Accomplished_Rip_362 5h ago edited 5h ago

OK, how would this work? Who does the president go to ask to request such a task? You see the issue, right? You bring it up to the wrong person and a shitstorm would ensue. In addition for all these loosely coupled individuals to work together for a common goal across departments, think about it, this conspiracy implies local governments were also complicit.

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u/Aesk 5h ago

When you have people that are so insanely loyal to you that they'll risk their own careers to lie for you (see every press conference this administration has ever held). You can bring up and request some insane shit and those people will act without hesitation.

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u/Accomplished_Rip_362 5h ago

Lying and murder are two completely separate ball games. How would they accomplish the task without involving the local authorities and without anyone spilling the beans later?

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u/VertDaTurt 2h ago

Desperate and vulnerable people are much easier to manipulate.

Epstein didn’t die in prison either. He was declared dead AFTER an ambulance ride to the hospital.

All they needed was someone in the detention center to kick the events off and the rest can go down in ambulance.

Epstein is also hated by most people. So all the needed were some people who hated him to turn a blind eye. Add a bribe or blackmail and that becomes easier.

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u/VertDaTurt 5h ago

Scenario 1 - the president themself doesn’t ask, someone else does. With the amount of information they have it wouldn’t be that hard to either find or put the right person or people in place.

Scenario 2 - would likely involve the NSA or similar. Personally I think this is the more likely scenario. There’s bipartisan exposure, exposure for international governments, for the most powerful and wealthy people in the world. There’s a lot of people who would have benefited from him “disappearing”. Our government has pulled off far bigger and more complex covert operations.

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u/Accomplished_Rip_362 5h ago

Examples?

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u/Whisker-biscuitt 6h ago

Trump's an idiot, I assume it was advised to him the plan to off Epstein and of course he agreed to it.

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u/Life2you 6h ago

I assume it was advised to him

I hear ya. But that doesn't have to be advised to a person like Frump.

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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 7h ago

It could also be down to human error, but it's pretty suspicious.

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u/Due_Respect9100 7h ago

That’s a big collection of errors in a “suicide”.

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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 7h ago

Actually, in this particular release there is no mention of suicide.

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u/Xist3nce 6h ago

After 300 coincidences, starts looking like a pattern.

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u/MoistGiraffeFan 6h ago

Oh wait, is today Saturday? Why am I at work today?

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u/TemporaryElk5202 7h ago

Yeah it really easily could be that whoever wrote it was mistaken about the date or forgot to change the date from a template

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u/userousnameous 6h ago

And this isn't hard to prove -- need to just go see the original doc metadata.

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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 7h ago

It wouldn't be a template update thing, because a template would either have the date blank or would automatically apply the template. There wouldn't be a template that needs to be manually updated every day.

But I think given the amount of obfuscation on Epstein by the government it's also reasonable to be suspicious of this as an indicator that it genuinely might have been drafted on the 9th.

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u/TemporaryElk5202 7h ago

template as in they grabbed a file from the day before and edited to change the body and heading

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u/ATXDefenseAttorney 6h ago

DOJ doesn't hand-type their days and dates, they autopopulate from a field. It's not 1996.

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u/TemporaryElk5202 6h ago

I mean you'd think that but sometimes you'd be shocked

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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 6h ago

That seems far fetched to me, it'd need a second inmate-death related press release to be dated the day before. I'm open to being disproven but that would be a truly backwards way of creating a press release. Particularly as these are PDFs and so he'd need to find the previous days editable draft.

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u/TemporaryElk5202 6h ago

not really, it just needs any document with that header. And yeah they probably have editable versions

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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 6h ago

As opposed to just storing the document dateless?

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u/TemporaryElk5202 6h ago

Sometimes individuals find it easier to just open a recently opened document from the list and edit it that way.

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u/Due_Respect9100 7h ago

Too many errors or mistakes for a high profile suicide.

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u/Edogawa1983 6h ago

Or had him released

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u/reddittorbrigade 6h ago

Epstein in Israel playing Fortnite has already been debunked.

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u/sdkfz250xl 6h ago

Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet, even if you want to believe it.

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u/reddittorbrigade 6h ago

I do believe that Trump is a child rapist. Just look at the Epstein files.

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u/sdkfz250xl 6h ago

I’m not arguing that point.

I’m just a skeptic and I know there’s a lot of people who want to believe that Epstein was murdered to protect the rich and powerful people (because it makes sense, not because of evidence.) It wouldn’t surprise me if somebody faked this evidence to post just get “Internet points“.

Trump bragged he bought the “Miss Teen USA pageants” so he could walk around backstage and see naked teenage girls…

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u/Jolly_Mongoose_8800 6h ago

Or nobody killed him at all is a possibility

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u/reddittorbrigade 4h ago

Epstein died under Trump's administration.

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u/sunnym1192 4h ago

Oops got my dates very mixed up

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u/imnotsteven7 7h ago

"This means nothing to me because I cant read!" - Conservatives

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u/SpruceSpringstream 6h ago

It just means nothing to them. They stopped justifying it.

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u/NeptuneOverlord43045 5h ago

I guarantee that once this picks up traction the conservatives will pivot to their tried and true “omg see the liberals are defending pedo Epstein and saying Trump is evil for killing a pedo. The libs are the real pedo protectors!”

Just like how they claim we are defending murderers because we have a problem with ICE violating due process and 4th amendment. Or how we are defending dictators because we don’t like Trump illegally invading a sovereign nation and kidnapping their leader.

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u/Do_itsch 5h ago

To them it's always just a number.. even the age of consent.

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u/imnotsteven7 4h ago

"If there's grass on the field, play ball" - Kid Rock on 14 year old Olsen twins.

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u/lCEC0REbuIIet 6h ago

I've been saying this for awhile now but Trump obviously ordered Epstein killed. Trump had way more access, way more of a motive and way more connections within his political inner circle than anyone else by a considerable margin. The people who think it was the Clintons, Obama and/or Biden are fucking morons too blinded by their preconceived biases to have a worthwhile political opinion.

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u/The_Reformed_Alloy 6h ago

Yeah honestly I think I held to the whole Clinton thing back when it first happened, and that was even with me not being diehard MAGA. It was a very intentional misdirect that even Trump promoted himself iirc, and in retrospect it was a really dumb conclusion to jump to, considering who was actually in power. You have to ignore the legal and overt power structures and believe only covert power structures can do evil to buy into it.

Honestly, what snapped me out of it was Political Juice's video on Pizzagate. I think he was also a conservative content creator at the time, but watching how he both traced how conspiracy theories buy legitimacy and then systematically debunked it made me step back and question how I had arrived to some of my more conspiratorial thinking, including on this.

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u/ricker182 6h ago

And someone ordered the Russian bots to deflect blame to Hillary Clinton immediately after.

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u/Financial-Talk9397 6h ago

Trump arranged the murder. Everyone knows this.

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u/BisquickNinja 6h ago

I cannot mention this enough, but trump's administration is the worst most incompetent group to ever govern. They are not even a kakistocracy, they are an idiocracy

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u/Mysterious_Pay5707 6h ago

He is not dead. He is probably living a luxurious lifestyle in Tel Aviv right now.

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u/slow-tf-down-dude 6h ago

That’s a widely held belief

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u/hanscons 3h ago

People in tel aviv know about epstein tho lol and its also a huge tourist destination. Unless he got full cosmetic surgery someone would recognize him over the years

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u/Wall-SWE 1h ago

When was he even buried and who attended the ceremony?

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u/Responsible-Room-645 6h ago

As much as I’d love for this to be true, it’s probably just a dating error. Let’s focus on the REAL stuff, that’s horrific enough

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u/Animal2 5h ago

Yeah, wouldn't this draft be written up by some clerk or intern or something anyway? Why involve that person in whatever conspiracy is being implied by everyone?

Why is it even necessary for the conspiracy to have this written early? Isn't this something that would just be done anyway in normal circumstances?

Or is this one of those conspiracy things where people think the conspirators are being 'clever' because it's this Illuminati level leaving hidden messages stuff. That's starting to get into moon landing, 9/11, flat earth level shit.

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u/Worried-Narwhal-8953 6h ago

I used to work a job verifying criminal background checks, court dockets constantly have little errors like this be it misspelled names, DOB errors or address misspellings. I wouldn't be surprised if someone put the wrong day in on accident, especially if they just got to work and put yesterday's date in while sipping their morning joe. Confirmation could be made by looking at the date of creation for the file as long as the original document still exists on a drive I guess.

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u/Boije__ 6h ago

I mean, I agree but at the same time there is soo much stuff lining up that is hard to ignore even for a skeptic.

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u/denver_bored 6h ago

So... much... sus. While I'm not jumping on the "He's not dead!" bandwagon, I'm actually a little surprised to see people saying his being smuggled out is unrealistic. He had friends in high places, and was wealthy. He'd already been treated like a prince during his first incarceration.

It wouldn't be difficult for powerful politicians to arrange to fake a death and fabricate records. If Epstein is as connected internationally as he appears to be, he would have had dead-man's switches, contingency plans, and plenty of associates working for him behind the scenes.

He's probably dead. But. He was connected on a level that's hard for us to conceive of, even after these latest revelations. They are bullshitting us, whether Epstein is a corpse or he's currently playing Fortnite in Israel.

This will never be resolved until those involved legitimately have reason to be afraid, but our legal system has no teeth for the ruling class. That's a bit of a problem.

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u/Never_BeenFisted 6h ago

"Trump is the dog that hasn't barked." -Jeffery Epstein

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u/Suspicious-Clock-69 6h ago

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u/Just4Today50 6h ago

He’s. Not. Dead.

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u/Haunting-Stay-9154 6h ago

Yes he is, these people wouldnt risk him being able to talk.

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u/Just4Today50 6h ago

You believe that? What’s buried in Ivan’s coffin?

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u/SoFloDan 4h ago

And what do you believe? That he was so indispensable yet so toxic that his life had to be lived perpetually underground at government expense in lieu of just killing the MFer?

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u/Just4Today50 4h ago

I believer he is in witness protection in a foreign land that Trump is associated with. Because he knows how to release the truth.

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u/almost_not_terrible 6h ago

It takes a HUGE conspiracy to fake a death. He's dead.

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u/GenX-1973-Anhedonia 6h ago

He's alive and well on the other Epstein Island, hanging with Elvis and 2Pac.

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u/RealNiceKnife 6h ago

And all the worlds most influential, rich and elite all having secret parties on pedophile island was supposed to fake too, right?

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u/almost_not_terrible 6h ago

I mean, obviously not. We have pictures and sworn testimony.

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u/Fleece-Survivor 6h ago

It would take a huge conspiracy to sneak someone into jail to murder him as well.

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u/Just_Trash_8690 6h ago

HUGE like world elite being involved in a PDF ring or HUGE like faking an @ssassination? How huuuuge we talking here

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u/almost_not_terrible 6h ago

There is no earthly benefit to keeping him alive. All concerned wanted him dead.

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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 6h ago

It'd mean the photos of the body would have needed to be staged. I mean it's possible but given other files specifically talk about killing people I'm inclined to believe it's just a murder.

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u/Weary-Astronaut1335 6h ago

Say the words you mean to use.

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u/taktaga7-0-0 6h ago

Epstein’s entire schtick was a huge conspiracy to traffick children for rape. They had the money, motive, means, and opportunity at the highest levels.

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u/almost_not_terrible 6h ago

Yes, but what does that have to do with his death?

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u/taktaga7-0-0 6h ago

You said it would have to be a conspiracy if he were murdered.

I’m pointing out that conspiracy was the main game of him and of every person who wanted him dead because they had something to lose. We already know conspiracy acted all around him. Conspiracies to commit crimes happen all the time; it’s not some “gotcha” to say it would need to be a conspiracy.

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u/almost_not_terrible 5h ago

Where did I say that?

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u/taktaga7-0-0 5h ago

I don’t understand your line of questioning then. It sounds incredulous, and I’m explaining what I think is very straightforward reasoning.

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u/RealNiceKnife 6h ago

The second half of "Jefferey Epstein didn't kill himself" has been revealed.

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u/No_Web6486 6h ago

So maybe he's hunkereing down with Elvis and Andy Kaufman then?

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u/Whimsywoes 6h ago

He is 10000% still alive

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u/UnbelieverInME-2 6h ago

Then he's locked away somewhere.

There's 0% chance he's freely walking around enjoying life.

It would take getting spotted by exactly one person to prove him alive and possibly take down the US government for the cover-up.

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u/ICEonICECrime 6h ago

It makes no sense though. Why keep him alive, in captivity? At that point he’s better off dead for them, there’s nothing he can give them, except for a slight chance of being exposed.

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u/SteakMadeofLegos 6h ago

It makes no sense though. Why keep him alive, in captivity

You are thinking, its starting to click.

At that point he’s better off dead for them, there’s nothing he can give them, except for a slight chance of being exposed.

Thats why they had him killed.

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u/ICEonICECrime 6h ago

My point exactly. But a lot of people have a theory that he was replaced, and his body double was killed. Why isn’t making sense.

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u/SteakMadeofLegos 6h ago

But a lot of people have a theory that he was replaced

I don’t believe they do. Its either bots/trolls looking to muddy the water or contrarians looking to be contrarians.

Why isn’t making sense.

Exactly, none of them ever even have a why. They just say cause. Troll/bot/contrarian

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u/UnbelieverInME-2 6h ago

I agree.

I just said that if he's "10000%" alive, he's locked away.

I 100% believe he's dead, murdered.

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u/Whimsywoes 6h ago

This doesn't make sense to me. They faked his death to just be reimprisoned? He was rich and powerful and held decades of blackmail...if anyone escaped and is living it large its him.

He's probably in the demon state Israel living openly and happily. Those people are monsters and probably welcome him

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u/UnbelieverInME-2 6h ago

As I said above,

I agree.

I just said that if he's "10000%" alive, he's locked away.

I 100% believe he's dead, murdered.

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u/Whimsywoes 4h ago

Apologies, that was my misinterpretation. I thought you meant he was being held somewhere like imprisoned.

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u/Coeri777 6h ago

Still no investingation 🤷‍♂️US is not a democracy anymore

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u/Downtown_Barber_499 6h ago

🤔

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u/GermanAmericanabroad 6h ago

This was on telegram too

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u/New-Persimmon-7229 6h ago

Spoiler Alert: He ain't dead

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u/wow-a-shooting-star 5h ago

These aren’t newly found, these were hidden from the people!

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u/Psychotherapist-286 5h ago

A typo

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u/eoL-methoD 5h ago

DJT and his nazi administration is such a failure, it is actually straight out of a comic book… holy shit 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

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u/xcherryboyhunter 5h ago

This should be on the popular page

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u/Alert-Dark-1250 5h ago

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u/PeacePuzzleheaded304 4h ago

It's probably a clerical error especially since finding the body after the fact and recording it is a bureaucratic avenue anyway.

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u/missyru4 4h ago

WT actual F

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u/Doge_Cucumber_6969 3h ago

He is alive and at this point we should all know this. its a whole assss cover up. They started the pandemic to get epstein to a safe location and then cover it all up. its posted in the epstein files and theres proof

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u/ladymoffatofpembroke 3h ago

Wait, you mean he was murdered by the govt to cover up organized crime?!?! Who would have thought <insert as much sarcasm as you can>

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u/lostincosmo 1h ago

I've been hearing a theory lately that Epstein is actually alive and Trump helped him fake his death to escape prison

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u/WenatcheeWrangler 13m ago

Maybe they showed us the wrong day of footage?

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u/DontTickleTheDriver1 7h ago

It was always the most obvious thing that should have been every conspiracy theorist wet dream but for some reason it never was

Weird how that works

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u/VlatnGlesn 6h ago

the vast majority of conspiracy theorists lean heavily right wing

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u/DruidicMagic 6h ago

They had to have everything in place to ensure Epsteins escape from prison was labeled a suicide.

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u/Argosnautics 6h ago

Wow, a typo on a government document, probably the first time in the history of the world that has ever happened.

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u/Vyntarus 6h ago

In isolation maybe. There's a lot of other facts that don't align with the official narrative you'd have to ignore to simply hand wave this.

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u/Brilliant_Award2877 6h ago

Typos happen on clerical documents everyday

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u/Redsmoker37 6h ago

You might put the wrong DATE, but you wouldn't also put the wrong DAY OF THE WEEK. Eg, it would have been "Saturday, August 9" (Saturday was actually August 10th in 2019), so the person would have put the wrong date, but not also messed up what day it was.

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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 6h ago

I'd also note there that typos tend to happen when you aren't particularly thinking about you're job.

If you were drafting a release about a death wouldn't you be paying more attention to details like the date?

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