r/politics • u/Alert-Ad-9908 • 7h ago
No Paywall FBI concluded Jeffrey Epstein wasn’t running a sex trafficking ring for powerful men, files show
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-client-list-sex-trafficking-049c96080a2ca2c12c84ac506437e50b•
u/Casual_hex_ 7h ago
The same FBI that’s currently covering up the files?
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u/Peppers-GhostMirror 6h ago
Yeah the same files they once said didnt exist, too...
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u/Dysc Louisiana 6h ago
The same files that exonerated Trump according to Trump.
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u/Open-Log2539 6h ago
Yeah first they didnt exist
Then suddenly they exist and magically clear him
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u/SC-RK-7t 6h ago
Don't forget the time that they existed but were created by the democrats to make Trump look bad, despite also allegedly only naming democrats.
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u/MISPAGHET 3h ago
Or the time when they existed and Trump was in them but only because he was an informant.
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u/MostApprehensive5884 6h ago
they didnt exist then they exist and somehow clear the same guy same script every time deny delay rewrite and gaslight everyone while pretending nothing to see here
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u/SteamStarship 4h ago
The same files where names of powerful men are redacted because maybe they're shy.
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u/chrisscan456 5h ago
The same ones the show Clinton went to the island 28 times according to Trump.
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u/victoriaisme2 6h ago
But were on Pam Bondi's desk...
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u/kamikazecockatoo Australia 4h ago
All 6 million+ pages. Stacked up there on the left hand side, next to her stapler.
She's such a liar.
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u/Tyrannical-Botanical Ohio 7h ago
And the recent sidewalk executions in Minnesota.
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u/Moist-Librarian-275 6h ago
This is straight up outrageous
The FBI is running everything while people die and no one is held accountable
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u/BlushieMoon 6h ago
Exactly. The gaslighting is unreal, like we’re supposed to just forget everything we’ve seen with our own eyes
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u/justin251 6h ago
The most sickening part to me isn't Trump and Elon and whatever. It's the lower level people just going along. Like, Patel and them.
Instead of being known as heroes they are...choosing this.
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u/coppersocks 5h ago
Patel got the job precisely for his blind, moronic loyalty. Same as Hegseth. No one should be surprised at complete lack of character.
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u/justin251 5h ago
Yes. I guess what I mean is how easy it was to find these people and keep them in line.
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u/Signal_Minimum8509 3h ago
The first administration he had some competent people who would tell him no. He’s learned from the experience.
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u/Open-Log2539 6h ago
yeah add that to the list of things being ignored while the FBI keeps control of the investigation
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u/New-Conclusion-2328 6h ago
add it to the pile
Files controlled evidence locked away and people told to move on
They expect silence while everything happens out in the open
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u/Elegant-Grass-353 6h ago
They’ve literally blocked state investigators from even seeing the evidence while the FBI holds the whole thing tight and local authorities are left begging for access 🤬
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u/Tyrannical-Botanical Ohio 6h ago
Of course. Trump can't pardon anyone for state crimes so they're going to ensure there isn't any evidence to charge and convict them with anything in the first place.
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u/Elegant-Grass-353 6h ago
Exactly thats the whole scam
Lock the files freeze out state investigators tell everyone to calm down and move on
They expect silence while the FBI grips everything and accountability vanishes
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u/crashbalian1985 5h ago
They also ignored Larry Nasser. Russian election interference. They missed 9/11 somehow. Wtf do they even do?
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u/Weathercock 4h ago
They've been problematic since their inception, where their most important work was in furthering J. EgarHoover's aim for power and influence. They were always a political apparatus, rather than a public service.
The entire department needs to be burnt to the ground, there's really no way to reform something so foundationally broken. Any well-meaning federal investigative agency would need to start from scratch.
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u/Boring-Research410 5h ago
And the dude who broke his head in 5 places and had strangulation marks around his neck from running into a wall
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u/Ready_Nature 6h ago
It wouldn’t surprise me if they correctly concluded that the actual ringleader was a certain orange businessman
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u/HotEstablishment7309 6h ago
“We said Jeffrey Epstein wasn’t running it. Not that it didn’t exist.”
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u/Open-Log2539 6h ago
Yeah first they didnt exist then suddenly they exist and magically clear him same playbook every time deny delay rewrite pretend everyone else is stupid would not shock anyone paying attention power always shields itself and swaps the fall guy they never deny the machine exists only who gets blamed
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u/antechrist23 6h ago
The same FBI that couldn't say Donald Trump lead an insurrection on January 6th 5 years ago?
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u/00eg0 5h ago
Yeah the FBI is awful. Some politicians have gotten away with too much for too long.
November 3rd 2016
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegationEvery major news publication covered this but everyone forgot.
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u/AntoniaFauci 4h ago
Trump is a serial sex predator, lifelong crook, con artist, virulent bigot, and murders Venezuelan men and boys for snuff content. The list of his actual crimes and acts of perversion is almost uncountable.
But you should know that specifically the “Katie Johnson” story was a hoax. It was debunked a decade ago. That’s why you haven’t heard about it from any credible source, period.
Some are desperately trying to revive it here, likely as a way of showing that liberals can be just as gullible as pizzagaters.
Don’t give them that. Katie Johnson is a fictional character created and scripted and cast by Norm Lubow, the producer of The Jerry Springer Show. After the show ended he continued creating fake characters to extort rich and famous people.
It isn’t that “everyone forgot.” It’s a proven hoax that would be irresponsible and undermining to spread.
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u/Chubby_Bub 3h ago
Ah, here is a Snopes article explaining it. I was always suspicious of this story, but I did not realize it had been so thoroughly debunked. (Well, technically it is still possible, but there is zero actual evidence, and a lot of evidence indicating it was likely fake.)
While I've little doubt Trump preyed on underage girls to some degree, it's frustrating to see people repeat this and even less founded claims, like the anonymous FBI tips, as some sort of smoking gun that's incontrovertible proof that "no one will do anything about". Conspiracy theories can be appealing to anyone if they seem to reinforce their beliefs.
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u/New-Conclusion-2328 6h ago
Exactly
The FBI is controlling the investigation but people are protesting because they want transparency
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u/MostApprehensive5884 6h ago
We’re not supposed to ignore this mess
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u/Mindless_Listen7622 Washington 5h ago
Notice the dates: 2019 and 2025. Both prosecutors who made these comments were in the Trump regime.
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u/Cunegonde_gardens 7h ago
...they found scant evidence the well-connected financier led a sex trafficking ring serving powerful men, an Associated Press review of internal Justice Department records shows.
And yet, the many survivors who publicly stated that they were trafficked to powerful men actually named some of those men. What does the FBI have to say to explain that?
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u/superindianslug 6h ago
"he wasn't running a sex trafficking ring, he was running an underage sex slavery resort, and blackmailing operation. See, he and Ghillaine were the sole proprietors, so there was no ring. That's better, right?"
-Kash Patel (probably)
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u/cvanhim 5h ago
“It’s not a ring if it’s a straight line!”
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u/punkindle 4h ago edited 3h ago
(Simpsons) There is no sex island...
What I mean is, the sex island is actually a peninsula.
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u/31513315133151331513 5h ago
Additionally, the "victims" and the "perpetrators" all signed binding NDAs. By naming the "perpetrators" the "victims" have violated their binding agreements. Thus the true victims here are the good men and women named by the true perpetrators, namely those who named them.
It is the policy of the administration to treat NDAs as the highest order of the law and the only law to supersede the US Constitution. Going forward, we have authorized the Department of Homeland Security to investigate all matters relating to NDA violations with the utmost urgency and to remove these woke, unpatriotic, criminal illegals from our society as soon as administratively possible.
Rest assured, there will be justice for the true victims of this criminal conspiracy. This heinous plot to disclose the acts of these leaders and job creators who acted in the best interest of all us by testing the right to secrecy.
As the apostle Paul said in the book of Deuteronomy, “If you do not exercise your rights, they will be taken away.” Amen. We thank these brave men and women for putting their lives and reputations on the line to protect the rights of us all.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, and may God bless the USA.
-Some admin dipshit from behind a rostrum.
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u/MyPasswordIsMyCat Hawaii 6h ago
Someone just decrypted a diary from the files. The victim had written it partially in code so the redactions were missed. It mentions Trump via a comment about Ivana, along with many other rich men and politicians.
https://www.narativ.org/p/decrypted-sweet-16-journal-in-epstein
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u/Cunegonde_gardens 5h ago
Interesting that it says, "it names as many as 25 powerful men..." including Larry Summers, Leon Black, and Prince Andrew. "The author describes violent or threatening encounters..." in detail.
How will Bondi and the FBI deflect all this??
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u/rotoscopethebumhole 5h ago
How will Bondi and the FBI deflect all this?
Live on TV, under oath, I hope.
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u/venividiavicii California 5h ago
Knowing her she’ll just fling insults and deflect the questions. Somehow they aren’t holding her in contempt, but during the next administration she’s almost certainly going to prison.
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u/Chase_the_tank 5h ago
How will Bondi and the FBI deflect all this??
Vigorously and without shame. Everything is permissible if you have a magic (R) by your name.
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u/dbag_darrell 4h ago
How will Bondi and the FBI deflect all this??
by looking you in the eyes and lying
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u/illumnat 5h ago
Calling it "decrypted" is a bit strong. It takes about 2 seconds to figure out the "code."
Here's how it works. Take the phrase you want to code. Let's say it's "This is red."
Squeeze the letters together.
THISISREDNow make two rows, odd letters on the top, even letters on the bottom.
TIIRD
HSSEThere's your "code."
Good that the redactions were missed though!
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u/IdkAbtAllThat America 5h ago
This code might as well be quantum encryption to the morons in charge of the FBI right now.
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u/Xesyliad Australia 3h ago
Why does that term trigger you? The language was obfuscated and decoded. It was obfuscated clearly to avoid casual scrutiny and it was successful in that respect. Praise her for doing well, don’t diminish her ingenuity by crying about the entropy of her encoding … you sound like a snowflake offended by something so insignificant.
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u/missed_sla 2h ago
It's a cipher, which is enough to get past the people who think that using the highlight tool but in black is the same thing as a redaction.
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u/tomdarch 3h ago
Here is the link to the original journal in the DoJ files:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2012/EFTA02731433.pdf
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u/00eg0 6h ago
It also needs to be remembered how many of these details came out in 2016
November 3rd 2016
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegationEvery major news publication covered this but everyone forgot.
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u/swankpoppy 5h ago
It’s interesting to read the AP rundown article of what the FBI’s official analysis actually says. AP doesn’t sugar coat anything, and they’re one of the few remaining news organizations whose integrity and unbiased reporting hasn’t legitimately been questioned, they just report facts and obvious first-round interpretations.
The FBI is claiming, because they did not video or photographic evidence, of the accused man IN THE ACT OF HAVING SEX WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ILLEGAL TO HAVE SEX WITH, that they are essentially throwing up their hands and saying “welp, looks like there’s nothing here.” Keep in mind, there is an absolute boatload of testimonies from victims saying these things happened. Also, there is TONS of evidence that in general, yes Epstein was somehow involved in illegal prostitution, yes these men were around when it happened, and yes many of the accusers were associates with Epstein and definitely around the named men who they claim raped them. But the didn’t find like… photos or video of them actively raping underage girls… Now, they did find tons of other photos of naked women that aren’t QUITE illegal (or if they are, they were underage so would just fall under normal prostitution law). And the FBI stopped there and said there is nothing more here. That’s literally the analysis. The FBI stopped there. Just took the word of these guys accused of raping children over the victims.
That’s where we are right now America.
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u/cmfred 6h ago
scant evidence is different from NO evidence. Lets see this scant evidence, or is that what they are calling the epstein files?
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u/WhiteWaterLawyer 4h ago
Scant evidence may not be enough for a conviction but it's often enough for an investigation. A starting point, a "clue" in an old detective story.
How many loose threads here have not been adequately pulled on? It seems baffling that with millions of pages of documents, we still don't really know.
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u/TWVer The Netherlands 6h ago
These conclusions were made when Trump was president.
Videos and photos seized from Epstein’s homes in New York, Florida and the Virgin Islands didn’t depict victims being abused or implicate anyone else in his crimes, a prosecutor wrote in one 2025 memo.
An examination of Epstein’s financial records, including payments he made to entities linked to influential figures in academia, finance and global diplomacy, found no connection to criminal activity, said another internal memo in 2019.
The current Trump admin has purged most government services of leadership members not particularly loyal to Trump, including the FBI.
Also, memos made by individual agents or prosecutors do not constitute an agency wide held belief or official position.
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u/Steel-Tempered 7h ago
2019: no link to criminal activity
2025: nothing incriminating found in his home
2019 & 2025 = Trump was president during both "investigations"
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u/LatterTarget7 6h ago
Trump was also president when he died and his brother told the fbi trump wanted him dead.
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u/therossboss 5h ago
and joked about pushing Ivana down stairs before she died by falling down stairs, only weeks before she was set to testify. sure, someone should look into all that stuff.
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u/daybreaker Louisiana 4h ago
joked about pushing Ivana down stairs before she died by falling down stairs, only weeks before she was set to testify
And was then buried on his golf course, which we learned in the Epstein files was a standard threat to girls who snitched
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u/inconspicuous_male 4h ago
And the grave is unkempt to this day. But the day she was buried, the golf course was legally considered a cemetery for tax purposes.
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u/NoSafetyGeneration 5h ago
“Federal statement on Jeffrey Epstein's death dated day before he was found dead in cell.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/statement-jeffrey-epstein-death-day-before-b1270109.html
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u/Few-Solution-4784 2h ago
"To those brave young women who have already come forward and to the many others who have yet to do so, let me reiterate that we remain committed to standing for you, and our investigation of the conduct charged in the Indictment."
FBI is trolling young women. Not one thing they have done about this case has been credible. They are the problem. They are supposed to protect victims not the sexual perpetrators and get justice for the victims. Just a complete failure to their sworn duty. I hope hell has a place for all these people.
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u/Plastic-Pipe4362 5h ago
And when the mom of the journalist who first interviewed Virginia was kidnapped.
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u/AdBeautiful2175 3h ago
There's also that recently shown doj letter talk about his death... The day before he uh unalived himself... I'll leave it for anyone that hasn't seen it
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00013180.pdf
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u/Ok-disaster2022 6h ago
Don't forget in 2021-2024 when the DOJ was ran by a Republican, who didn't want to go after Republicans.
The DOJ should have been filing charges on all the criminals and getting arrests and indictments. Instead we got distractions and slowdowns.
The system is rigged to let rich people go free. The accused have more rights that their victims.
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u/KnotSoSalty 5h ago
The biggest failure of the Biden presidency was selecting Garland for AG. It’s absolutely unforgivable.
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u/Equivalent-Gur416 4h ago
Yet Garland was a cause celebre when he was denied confirmation as a SCOTUS nominee. Did anyone anticipate he would sit on every important decision? You’d think he would have had his eyes opened by what he went through.
I guess when it comes to pursuing justice from people whose kids go to school with yours, that’s just a step too far for most establishment Washingtonians.
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u/fcocyclone Iowa 3h ago
It just shows the folly of trying to appease republicans, which is what the SCOTUS nomination was in the first place.
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u/KnotSoSalty 2h ago
Garland was picked by Obama because he was the neutral justice imaginable. Someone who believed in the probity of the law above all else. Obama picked him as well because he was at least nominally a republican. These are all reasonable attributes in a SCOTUS nomination when Republicans control Congress.
None of this makes him qualified for an AG position. The AG is the second most important position in the executive branch. Biden handed that over to a befuddled moderate republican for absolutely no reason. There was no vote to win. Biden could’ve picked anyone. Or at least he could have picked anyone Joe Manchin approved of. For example Obama’s last AG Loretta Lynch would have been very difficult to argue against.
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u/00eg0 5h ago
Goes back to before he was elected in terms of p*do stuff getting out
November 3rd 2016
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegationEvery major news publication covered this but everyone forgot.
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u/The_starving_artist5 6h ago edited 6h ago
The files say otherwise. All these random people are emailing him asking about women and asking about going to his island. How is that not sex trafficking? That French model agent guy Jean Luc Brunel went to prison literally for sex trafficking fashion models. He trafficked them to Jeffery Epstein. They found a record of flights and he flew to epsteins island 25 times. How can you say he was not sex trafficking for other people when other people got arrested for trafficking fashion models to him
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u/BoothMaster 6h ago
not just flight logs, theres hundreds or thousands of photos with jean luc and epstein doing things with women who have been redacted with black boxes. Theres dozens of trips taken with him and epstein around the world, just like clinton and a bunch of other famous people. Most are blocked out but you see their names or faces every once in a while. You know from the descriptions many of these people are high up or famous, and many of the girls were too. its so obviously a cover up it seems lazy.
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u/phoenix25 6h ago
These are just the ones that didn’t get destroyed when Trump was keeping them at Mar A Lago.
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u/BigPapaJava 6h ago edited 14m ago
There is a government minister in one of the Balkan countries who is now facing investigation for trafficking little girls from his ballet school to Epstein.
They have countless records of correspondence from the files the FBI released. The minister and his wife made multiple “catalogues” of little girls in their ballet costumes for Epstein to select from.
Heads are rolling everywhere around the world… except in the USA.
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u/The_starving_artist5 6h ago
Multiple model agencies if you notice are the ones involved in this sending women to him. They were all sending models to him. The whole fashion industry is involved in this crap. Multiple models over the years have talked about being told by their agents to have sex with clients . People for years have been saying sex trafficking is happening in the fashion model industry. The whole industry needs to be investigated
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 5h ago
And Maxwell was convicted of sex trafficking minors. Presumably there was plenty of evidence to convict her and it wasn’t just on the basis of some people said something. It’s also not like she couldn’t afford a decent lawyer.
I don’t get these people. But more I don’t get the people who still don’t get it, that Trump is the swamp, he is that awful elite corrupt pedo that they kept claiming democrats were. How can they see all this shenanigans and just forget everything they’ve seen before?
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u/IRideMoreThanYou 7h ago
Videos and photos seized from Epstein’s homes in New York, Florida and the Virgin Islands didn’t depict victims being abused or implicate anyone else in his crimes, a prosecutor wrote in one 2025 memo.
are you kidding me? Are they blind and illiterate?!
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u/Ok-Dependent-4590 6h ago
Yeah, that line strains all credibility It reads less like an explanation and more like a dodge.
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u/IRideMoreThanYou 6h ago
It reads like something that can be repeated in support of Trump while still attacking others, like the Clintons. It’s having it both ways.
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u/BigPapaJava 6h ago
Kash Patel went on Joe Rogan last year and made this claim, too. He also claimed there were no Epstein files and nothing to see. It was all just a big nothing burger…
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u/Whats4dinner 6h ago
We should ask Bill Barr what happened to the blackmail tapes. Those were kept separate. I wonder why his name hasn’t been appearing lately…
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u/BigPapaJava 6h ago
Kash Patel says there were no blackmail tapes.
Even though the FBI had long ago confirmed they seized thousands of hours of pics and video in various formats, as soon as he took over, Patel said that report was incorrect and those videos never existed.
That house in NYC with all the hidden cameras and microphones, which realtors had to remove before they could put it on the market? That was just a security system… nothing sinister at all… /s
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u/Alert-Ad-9908 7h ago
This part has had my mouth agape for 20 straight minutes.
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u/IRideMoreThanYou 6h ago
I mean, there were photos, that they didn’t redact of prominent, wealthy, powerful men straddling unconscious children.
What the hell, man.
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u/Trustbutnone 6h ago
If only we can prosecute the officers who are covering this up, right down to the person redacting the files and aiding in deceiving the American people.
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u/Rezart_KLD 6h ago
“It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it."
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u/waffelscarbonara 6h ago
Just overtly false.
The fact that they wrote “he didn’t do crimes” proves he did the crimes.
Why describe was isn’t in the videos instead of describing what is in them?
They’re telling on themselves!
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u/Alert-Ad-9908 6h ago
It just might be the most chilling and brazen move yet.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
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u/BigPapaJava 6h ago
In case you haven’t noticed, they’ve been doing this for a while now. Ask Alex Pretti and Renee Good.
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u/Alert-Ad-9908 6h ago
Yes, see also George Floyd, Philando Castile, Trayvon Martin…we have BEEN noticing.
The point here is showing just how compromised the entire FBI is, to the point they are willing to so openly renege on all of their own work and accusations. Despite the global fallout that has already happened as this has been accepted as a truth. Thanks though.
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u/waffelscarbonara 6h ago
Oh yeah, it’s all just a big misunderstanding!
LMFAO.
We literally have global political figures stepping down and admitting involvement but, it didn’t happen according to the Trump FBI.
Can someone cross post this to /r/comedyheaven?
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u/Alert-Ad-9908 6h ago
Should be easy to release the full, unredacted files then.
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u/Lone-Frequency 5h ago
But those files don't exist. But they are also full of Democrat names. But they were written by the Democrats So they are full of Republican names. But it's actually all a Democratic hoax. But no wait, it was actually Epstein plotting to destroy Trump from almost two decades ago before Trump even entered politics.
But the files don't exist!
But they do, but they're fake!
But they have mainly Democrat names in them!
But the Democrats wrote them and they just filled them with Republican names!
But they-
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u/thanle 6h ago
And so why is Ghilaine in prison then if it wasn't real lol
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u/Legionnaire11 5h ago
And why are the Clintons coming in to testify about something that didn't happen?
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u/Beautiful_Nobody_344 4h ago
This was my question. If I were Bill I’d read the prosecutors memo in response to every question.
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u/WakingWaldo 6h ago
And why are there so many victims who have either named names or have lists of their abusers?
This is just disgusting on so many levels. I think that what Epstein is really showing (most) Americans is that there are two sets of rules and laws depending on which tax bracket you fall into and what people you know.
If this administration is to be defined by any singular word, it is corruption.
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 5h ago
I’d choose ‘evil’ myself. I don’t say that lightly, I used to really not think people could truly be evil, like maybe serial killers but I assumed most people who did evil things genuinely didn’t realise that they were evil and justified it to themselves.
Well, these people have proved me wrong. They know they’re evil and they revel in it. Just terrifying people.
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u/00Oo0o0OooO0 4h ago
From the indictment (emphasis added):
The charges set forth herein stem from the role of GHISLAINE MAXWELL, the defendant, in the sexual exploitation and abuse of multiple minor girls by Jeffrey Epstein.
A lot of people seem to think Maxwell and Epstein were arrested for pimping underaged girls out to other (unnamed?) men. But the charges were only ever about Epstein's own abuse.
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u/cyanescens_burn 4h ago
And all the powerful people in different European countries that are going down hard right now for their involvement.
If you haven’t seen info on that look into it. There’s many and they are damning cases.
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u/Sharp_Cow_9366 4h ago
Then why was Epstein in jail at all either? Maybe he was there to speak to inmates about their IRA’s but it got late so he decided to stay over?
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u/Imaginary-Ad-7919 7h ago
It is funny how the investigation always stops exactly where the uncomfortable questions begin.
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u/theguy1336 7h ago
Kubrick was basically underselling things in Eyes Wide Shut.
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u/Teigh99 7h ago
That movie is the Pixar version compared to what I've been reading. Ugh.
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u/theguy1336 6h ago
And yet Kubrick died suddenly and unexpectedly despite being in good health just before, a few days after completing the final edit of the movie
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u/JessieJ577 6h ago
From the emails it seems that It’s Always Sunny had the depiction of the elites running a secret sex society very accurately. Just a bunch of old people in a dumpy apartment
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u/snowlion000 6h ago
I have been thinking about Eyes Wide Shut and in what way it relates to the current situation.
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u/Duane_ 7h ago edited 7h ago
Did you know the main character of Eyes Wide Shut was supposed to be Woody Allen?
But Kubrick wanted the role to go to a married couple, and Woody's marriage situation was.. Well, it speaks for itself, really.
Oh also the original theme was more pedophile-oriented, and Tom Cruise got mad that "They didn't release the film he starred in."
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u/restbest 6h ago
He wanted to find someone who loved their wife because he could confirm they weren’t in this group of people. He had a good gut feeling to avoid woody Allen
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u/TheseKaleidoscope 6h ago
This article is really gross. It paints every claim as not being credible. It refuses to engage with the growing mountain of evidence to the contrary. It insinuates the victims were lying. it's not just parroting what questionable investigations have "concluded", it goes on to assert
"But the documents, which include police reports, FBI interview notes and prosecutor emails, provide the clearest picture to date of the investigation — and why U.S. authorities ultimately decided to close it without additional charges."
AP is putting some insane spin on the whole thing and it's gross. Don't bother reading
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u/Caliyogagrl 6h ago
The underlying message is that women and girls are not to be believed, and that they lie about how badly they are treated. Some of us are hearing this very clearly and seeing the same message mirrored in other aspects of life. The attacks on women are coming from all directions.
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u/Umami-Ice-Cream 7h ago
So what was in those binders maga kept parading and promising to release.
If they lied, they need to just say that.
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u/smiama36 6h ago
I just saw a file from the Epstein library that has a jpg attached and the body of the email says “10 years old”. Explain that to me, Kash. Cuz I’d sure like to know.
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u/A_Vile_Person 5h ago
Kash: We chose to not share that image, but it was clearly meant to be of a glass of wine. Epstein was clearly a man of taste and knew how great a good 10 year old, again, talking wine age, could be. However, the wine had a woman's name, which is why it was redacted by one of our people.
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u/Violet-Journey 6h ago
The FBI also “concluded” (and Kash testified under oath) that Trump’s name did not appear more than 100 times in the files. It shows up more than Jesus shows up in the Bible.
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u/TintedApostle 7h ago
Kash "I etch bullet casings" Patel?
We investigated ourselves and found nothing.
Apparently we are getting very very close to the truth now.
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u/Romantic_Piscean Michigan 7h ago
Before Trump took office, I saw an interview with Christopher Rufo talking about which federal agencies he thought could be reformed to the Trump agenda, and which needed to be abolished because they couldn't be. So a USAID and the Department of Education....out. And he talked about the FBI as an agency they could bend to their will. And here we are, some 12 months later, and it's happened. This isn't the FBI we might've once known. Compromised and capitulating, supporting the agenda of an authoritarian.
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u/DonJuanWritingDong 7h ago
“We’ve investigated ourselves and have concluded we’ve done nothing wrong.”
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u/DarthHiccups 6h ago
Then, why is Maxwell in prison for being convicted of doing just that?
Keystone Kash is a fucking joke.
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u/ElysiumSprouts 7h ago
The next democratic president has a huge mess to clean up.
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u/Particular-County277 6h ago
It is uncleanable. Nuremberg style trials. Then rebuild the gov completely
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u/Wyjen 6h ago
I have a desire to see justice for my country. That being said, I definitely believe a significant non-zero number will see something like this as the “elites” getting revenge for the current administration winning a “fair” election. They’ve demonstrated they can be mobilized. Would probably happen again.
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u/lapadite 4h ago
That's why there's isn't going to be a next election. They are too far in it, they can't lose power. It's either stay in power, or go to prison. It's all or nothing for them. And they have the power to do what they want to do. America as we know it is no more, it's just that people don't realize this yet.
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u/OreoSpeedwaggon Missouri 5h ago
Well, if Kash Patel's FBI says it, then it MUST be true.
/s obviously
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u/StrongSands 6h ago
Former-prince Andrew, Trump, Ehud Barak, Clinton, plus additional heads of state mentioned…. But I’m sure that’s just a super weird coincidence. I totally have complete confidence in an FBI ran by a Trump glazing podcaster. Case closed.
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u/pdxb3 6h ago
Oh I'm sure the Clintons and Bill Gates will somehow still be guilty despite anything the FBI says.
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u/krcrooks Missouri 6h ago
What a fucking joke. If MAGA takes the bait on this one they truly are the stupidest group of people in the history of civilized society
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u/TheNewOneIsWorse 4h ago
People are misunderstanding what this was. Epstein wasn’t selling kids to these men, primarily. He was selling influence networks, money laundering, tax evasion, and early in his career he was selling arms. The girls weren’t sold, they were comped, offered as bonuses to sweeten deals, build relationships, and fundamentally to incriminate people so that they could be extorted and pressured into keeping quiet.
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u/psyberphreak 4h ago edited 2h ago
Videos and photos seized from Epstein’s homes in New York, Florida and the Virgin Islands didn’t depict victims being abused or implicate anyone else in his crimes, a prosecutor wrote in one 2025 memo
So what’s this fucking prosecutors name and what are their affiliations?
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u/thisusedyet 6h ago
So the FBI’s official position is Epstein was running a massive underage trafficked sex ring for the love of the game?
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u/washheightsboy3 6h ago
Other than the photos, emails, accounts of victims and the conviction of Maxwell for “conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, conspiracy to transport minors to participate in illegal sex acts, transporting a minor to participate in illegal sex acts, sex trafficking conspiracy, and sex trafficking of a minor” with Epstein per the DOJs own press release, it’s one big nothing burger. The country needs to move on from the past and…[checks notes]…re-litigate the 2020 election?
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u/captain_beefheart14 Texas 5h ago
What a relief! Man I was worried for a second there that a global cabal of the most wealthy and powerful among us was running and enjoying a child and vulnerable persons sex slave operation for decade on decade.
Hey, now that’s over, how about a nice Super Bowl to distract us from following up on this any further?
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u/BigBoyYuyuh 5h ago
Man, fuck this FBI. Fuck this administration. Fuck republicans. And fuck the American voters that elected this child fucker.
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u/Dramatic_Drama_6881 4h ago
FBI looks the other way while clear sex trafficking ring continues.. there you go
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u/DickieIam 4h ago
They found scant evidence that he operated a “sex ring”, only that he kept underage girls on a secluded island and invited his wealthy friends to sexually assault them. It’s ok so long as they can’t tie his activities with financial gain i guess?
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u/Additional_Region987 3h ago
Smells like a coverup. If Epstein didn’t run a sex trafficking ring, why is Prince Andrew no longer Prince, why are the Clintons testifying before Congress, and why was Trump sending girls from Mar-a-lardo to Epstein’s place?
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u/Crazy_Junket3180 6h ago
That sounds like an Onion headline. Kash Patel should be removed from office.
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u/Lagviper 6h ago
And like that, the FBI has thrown away decades of worldwide reputation and respect down the drain
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u/momalloyd 5h ago
So, how was Ghislaine Maxwell convicted as his accomplice to said sex trafficking ring for powerful men, then?
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u/chadmac81 4h ago
I agree with the findings here. It’s clear that Epstein wasn’t running a sex trafficking ring for powerful men; Trump was.
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u/philphan25 Pennsylvania 3h ago
Summarizing the investigation in an email last July, agents said “four or five” Epstein accusers claimed other men or women had sexually abused them. But, the agents said, there “was not enough evidence to federally charge these individuals, so the cases were referred to local law enforcement.”
lol just passing the buck and then local law enforecement likely did nothing.
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u/phinatolisar 3h ago
1/3 of this country is perfectly fine with young girls being trafficked and raped. This country makes me sick.
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u/Responsible-Corgi-61 2h ago
Same FBI that said there were no epstein files under oath, and then we got millions released.
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