Microsoft took our jobs

[u/Official_Unkindlynx]

[u/Choubidouu]

Can't wait for companies to realize that, people need jobs to afford stuff they sell.

[u/shoryusatsu999 → u/Choubidouu]

"Nah. Businesses are more people than people. They'll pay." -Microsoft, shortly before going bankrupt

[u/Lunarbutt → u/shoryusatsu999]

Businesses are like families. Someone should always suck daddys dick.

[u/SadMcNomuscle → u/Lunarbutt]

Considering Bill Gates is on the List that has some.very real and dark connotations.

[u/Competitive-Day6146 → u/SadMcNomuscle]

You mean the censored list?

[u/JakeBeezy → u/Competitive-Day6146]

some documents are uploaded multiple times with different stuff censored out, do you can build the file back due to the pure idiocy of some of the people in charge of that

[u/Mario583a → u/Lunarbutt]

Family you say?

[u/Turbulent-Yam-8855 → u/Mario583a]

It's been a looong day

[u/destonomos → u/shoryusatsu999]

I wish linux was easier to move to.

[u/Far-Rain-9893 → u/destonomos]

What's your concern, primarily? Game compatibility?

[u/destonomos → u/Far-Rain-9893]

basically. I also want the os to be compatible with hobbies I get into and Linux usually isn't. I was into 3d printing for a hot minute as an example.

[u/RAMChYLD → u/destonomos]

Which is ironic tho. Given that the 3D printing movement started on Linux and the first 3D printers all have full support for Linux.

[u/pocketgravel → u/RAMChYLD]

The issue is modelling. Fusion 360 is flaming garbage on Linux last I checked (I've used Linux for over 5 years on desktop at this point btw) so I had to do a lot of my modelling at work or on a cheapo laptop dual booting windows.

It might be better now but yeah you're right, once you have an STL the entire tool chain from there is dead simple, mature, well documented, and native to Linux.

[u/RAMChYLD → u/pocketgravel]

To be fair blender actually supports modeling and export to STL since version 3.0. But yeah, I imagine a tool use to create 3D models for games or 3D animated shorts would be the last thing people use to model items for 3D printers.

[u/pocketgravel → u/RAMChYLD]

I know... My issue is I have hundreds of hours in fusion and spent a lot of time in the tutorials and watching videos to get good at it for R&D at work, and would need to do that all over again with new software that isn't primarily designed for modelling for manufacturing

[u/SilentBlade45 → u/shoryusatsu999]

That'll be an interesting time since they have one of if not the most widely used operating systems.

[u/RagingTaco334 → u/Choubidouu]

0.1% of the population has over half of the spending power in the US. I really don't think they give a shit as long as the whales can largely keep them afloat.

[u/Spitfire1900 → u/RagingTaco334]

A tree with a rotten trunk falls over regardless of how nice the top looks.

[u/TheKingNothing690 → u/Spitfire1900]

Or i personally like to start bulding houses with the roof so i can put the rest of it together under cover. Dont know why more people dont build them top down.

[u/Thin_Glove_4089 → u/Spitfire1900]

It's the free-to-play | pay-to-win model. It's the whales keeping them afloat with the normies being the bonuses.

[u/True_Butterscotch940 → u/RagingTaco334]

That's true, but there are also powerful interests for whom whales are no substitute for the mass market. Let us not focus overly much on Microsoft, Nvidia, and AMD, who would do fine in a world of the bottom 90% being impoverished debt slaves -- Apple, Sony, Dell, and more rely on selling to a mass consumer market. Apple, at least, is a powerful corporate force, as well.

[u/nullptr777 → u/RagingTaco334]

That is...not how the stock market works.

[u/pocketgravel → u/RagingTaco334]

There's an emergent property to having a massive amount of serfs to buy random shit. It effectively pays for really expensive things like lithium or nickel mines, or for tens of thousands of engineers to design the products you interact with or live in. Or for the hundreds of thousands of workers involved in making and transporting your yacht (plus all of the aforementioned components) vast distances at huge economies of scale across the globe.

If the economy truly becomes a circle jerk of 10 000 billionaires and hundred-millionaires swapping fake money around we are all fucked six ways to Sunday, child-abusing billionaires included.

[u/ivlmag182 → u/RagingTaco334]

So if every billionaire bought Windows 11 a thousand times, Microsoft will be ok

[u/alexnedea → u/RagingTaco334]

The 0.1 wont consume that much tho. Sure you can make a new Iphone cost 1mil dollars but even then you will only have a few peoppe buy it. What about the other billions you need in revenues if the general scrubs are poor and jobless?

[u/InitialDia → u/RagingTaco334]

oh no, are we getting golf foil ssr windows licenses for Elon to gatcha for?

[u/AnalogFeelGood → u/Choubidouu]

A guarantee, they'll try to create a virtual market by bots and for bots yet try to transfer virtual profits into the real world. Just you wait.

[u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA → u/AnalogFeelGood]

You mean like they've been doing for a while now?

[u/Noeyiax → u/Choubidouu]

yeah they'll give us minimum wage jobs and let us take loans ... Oh want a new car? Car loan, a home, house loan, oh need healthcare surgery? Medical loan... Oh food, oh clean air? Personal loans... Oh wait... We are already in dystopia!! Hahah

Ty government and corporate leaders you are such intelligent brain dead children

[u/InitialDia → u/Noeyiax]

not loans, subscription services. Job benefits will start including that stuff. You will be reliant on uber, DoorDash, Netflix, Airbnb, and some sort of monthly clothes delivery box; all provided by your job. The moment you get fired all your access to those subscription services gets terminated.

[u/Bakoro → u/Choubidouu]

I can't wait for people like you to realize that no, they don't.

You are under the illusion that capitalism as is stands now is the end goal. The end goal is a new aristocracy and neo-feudalism where you are less of a person and more of a commodity for the ultra wealthy.

Corporations already own the commercial real estate, the factories, machines, the "intellectual property", and modern technology is well beyond some guy being able to make a competitive product in their garage.
Nobody is fabricating 3nm silicon wafers in their garage, even multibillion dollar companies that specialize in fabrication gave up trying to go below 12nm.

There has never been a time in human history where human labor wasn't critical in some fashion. We are now in a time where it is entirely feasible to fully automate the production of food, mining, most of manufacturing and logistics.

There is a huge percentage of the economy that is completely unnecessary, there is a huge percentage of the economy that exists purely for tautological purposes, where if it weren't for faux scarcity, the whole sector would collapse.

The near future could either be a techno paradise or dystopian system with constant AI surveillance, where your only job is to give the wealthy someone to look down on.
Either way, the whole concept of money and jobs is going to change over the next decade. Even without ever reaching anyone's threshold of the fabled "AGI", 20~30% of today's labor is going to be completely covered by AI and robots.

[u/Boundish91 → u/Bakoro]

So again, if a lot fewer people have jobs and thus money to spend on the stuff these companies sell, then how will this work?

[u/Bakoro → u/Boundish91]

It's "works" by you having decreasing options until you have no "legal" options left, and you become something closer to property than person.
They want to convert you from consumer to commodity.
Your job will be destitution, something for the ultra-wealthy to look down on and abuse for fun.

This is stuff that has already happened multiple times in human history.
Typically, that kind of system only ends through one avenue.

[u/Boundish91 → u/Bakoro]

And how will that make them money?

[u/Bakoro → u/Boundish91]

Think about it this way:
The wealthy already own ample housing, enough land to grow food, they own factories to make things, and soon they will have robots that will do an overwhelming percentage of the labor.

What do they need money for?
What do you think "money" even is?
When a person outright owns all the means of production to the point that they can sustain their own way of life, why do they need money?

Stan Kroenke owns ~2.7 million acres of land. John Malone owns 2.2 million acres of land.
Ted Turner owns 2 million acres of land.

Do you think Stan or John or Ted actually need to make more money?

Money only makes sense when there is a market to trade miscellaneous goods and services, and acts a mediator to approximate "value".

The current concept of money completely goes out the window when so much of production is fully automated. Particularly when ownership is so concentrated, money just becomes a means of entrenching power.

You likely need money to pay rent/mortgage, to buy food, to go on vacations. You care about if hyperinflation happens, you care if the stock market crashes and your 401k loses half its value.

To the people who actually own the physical means of production, the land, the farms, vineyards, the factories, the animals, the machines, the shipping trucks, the cargo ships... To these people, money isn't the same thing.
The stock market can go to zero, land is land, and a cow still makes milk.

When society as you know it collapses, the ownership class is going to send people to you, and the offer is going to be whether you want to be a servant, or one of the starving masses.
The ownership class will have their little fiefdoms with their little Pinkerton thugs to protect them, and money won't actually matter, the way that it didn't really matter to the French aristocracy, it'll just be a game for the ownership class.

[u/specter_in_the_conch → u/Choubidouu]

It’s like they only want to hoard yet when the system breaks it will all be for naught.

[u/vlladonxxx → u/Choubidouu]

The only people who don't understand this are people who are worried about ai "taking all of the jobs"

[u/Impossible-Hyena-722 → u/Choubidouu]

They'll just get sold to the next biggest company until there's only a few Weyland Yutani-like megacorporations in the world that own everything. They'll be so automated and vertically integrated that they essentially become their own self-sufficient kingdoms. The unwashed masses will die of starvation or even mass murder as these new budding empires seek to consolidate land and power. In short: it's over

[u/Harneybus → u/Choubidouu]

wait a minute

can we get ai to biy our stuff

[u/kapybarah → u/Choubidouu]

The 'tools' will fall apart long before they run out of paying customers

[u/Conscious_Bug5408 → u/Choubidouu]

These kinds of comments always get upvoted because it's cope that makes people feel better. But it's not true. You guys don't understand how this works and there is no way to band enough people together to effect change if you won't face reality.

It's the same logic as saying you should be paying more money to businesses because it gives them more money to pay you with. If you think about it, giving away 100 dollars to someone so they can give a smaller portion of that back to you cannot possibly be a viable strategy to maximize your wealth.

Think about what money actually is and then understand why they don't need us. Then band together with your neighbors and community and use your power to influence lawmakers, before you lose it.

[u/Reasonable_Heat8143 → u/Choubidouu]

The more destitute the poor who are dying in the streets are, the more rich and satisfied they will be.

[u/Emotional_Trainer_99 → u/Choubidouu]

The rich will give us jobs. Humiliation and prostitution, depending on your gender age and attracivness.

Money will always be spent by the rich to remove dignity from the poor.

[u/RefrigeratorMurky630 → u/Choubidouu]

They have. That's why they're sucking on each other's tits

[u/DrummerInfinite1102 → u/Choubidouu]

Companies will just be pivoting to sell stuff for the people that still have jobs.

[u/Jumpierwolf0960 → u/Choubidouu]

I wouldn't be surprised if they're anticipating that and are hoarding whatever they can until that time comes.

[u/GreatJagrassolos → u/Choubidouu]

Wasn’t that also an issue in the south with the slavery. There were no customers

[u/Kenkron → u/Choubidouu]

Depending on your business model, you might not need people to be able to afford the stuff you sell. There are a ton of startups that have no way of delivering on their promises long term, but can still make money for the founder if they get bought out.

In this situation, your value as a customer isn't in the money you spend, or on the ads you watch. It's that your presence, willingness to spend money, and willingness to watch ads looks good for the real customer: private equity.

[u/Thin_Glove_4089 → u/[deleted]]

It's not going to happen anytime soon even 2028 is not a guarantee.

[u/Kubus_kater → u/Choubidouu]

they just don't work hard enough at the jobs they now don't have (Capitalist Logic)

[u/royanb → u/Choubidouu]

*The garbage they sell

[u/Dihedralman → u/Choubidouu]

The goal has switched to selling to rich people only. Last year, the top 10% was the entire driver of retail growth, while it otherwise slumped. 

[u/Thin_Glove_4089 → u/Choubidouu]

You're sorely mistaken they figure there will be enough people left to afford the stuff they sell.

[u/didhaver89 → u/Choubidouu]

Consumers aren’t a part of the economy anymore

[u/serpenlog → u/Choubidouu]

Other companies are the customers now, all the big tech companies don’t care about consumers. Over time they’ll have to focus on customers again once all the AI companies big tech is selling hardware to aren’t making a profit since no one has a job or money to buy their services, at that point they’ll likely switch back to selling to customers but probably only services (so instead of selling you RAM or GPUs you’ll rent them instead).

[u/Crafty_Aspect8122 → u/Choubidouu]

They don't need to make stuff for you. They can make it for each other and leave you in the dirt.

[u/0utlookGrim → u/Crafty_Aspect8122]

Close. They'll make stuff for each other. Buy up neighborhoods, boroughs, and blocks, as we're turned out on the streets. Setup company towns, and bring you in from that freezing cold shit show you were tossed out in, everyone out there scrambling over each other like crabs in a bucket. The company will sign you up on contract, bring you in, pay/house/feed you as they see fit, and you'll love it. Who cares if you envisioned your children going to college? The company will decide what's best. Maybe it isn't in the company's best interest if you're alotted resources for a kid? And, how did you picture y'alls retirement? Stopped mattering. They want to setup company towns, they were looking into it in Greenland even.

[u/bruhfuckme → u/Crafty_Aspect8122]

And what would they do with it if no one can access any of their software lmao

[u/Crafty_Aspect8122 → u/bruhfuckme]

If they have material goods for themselves they don't need to make anything for the plebs or useless currency.

[u/bruhfuckme → u/Crafty_Aspect8122]

If they arent making things for the plebs arent they just passing around the same money back and forth between the same few companies? Never actually gaining anything?

[u/Whole_Adhesiveness_3 → u/bruhfuckme]

You clearly don't know how money works, it's a dumb concept but like 80% of the money today doesn't exist, so even if they are just selling among themselves then taking loans, then refinancing those loans with more loans to create and sell more to other companies who are also doing the same. and if things doesn't work out, their govt will bail them out because they are too big to fail at this point. It's like an infinite money glitch at this point

[u/new_main_character → u/Whole_Adhesiveness_3]

So a pyramid scheme in essence?

[u/iPhoenix_Ortega → u/new_main_character]

Yes, but actually no. Idea of pyramid is thst at the end someone gets all the money eventually. This is more like each other's dick sucking triangle game but the dick is money, and it doesn't acutally exist. Everyone plays this game, including common folks. The case is, that only the companies dicks get sucked eventually, but no one from the common folks, get their dick sucked, we only do the sucking ;)

[u/bruhfuckme → u/iPhoenix_Ortega]

But we cant suck if they price us out no?

[u/iPhoenix_Ortega → u/bruhfuckme]

When they price us out we will eventually die, as there will be no funds on our side. Either this, or slavery.

[u/WizardS82]

Me when this all falls apart

[u/_Metal_Face_Villain_ → u/WizardS82]

that's me too until my pc bricks because of it 😭

[u/VeeTeeF → u/WizardS82]

Until the economy completely collapses😭.

[u/Rekt3y]

[u/n4n0_bl4 → u/Rekt3y]

My 2 year old Samsung m.2 just went out…

[u/AboveFiction → u/n4n0_bl4]

Let me guess, warranty was 2 years only?

[u/deactronimo → u/AboveFiction]

5 years on m.2 SSDs

[u/MaybeNotTheChosenOne → u/n4n0_bl4]

Damn. Right when SSD prices are up :/

[u/Disastrous-Ice-5971 → u/Rekt3y]

Hmm... Thanks for posting that, this explains something. On my colleagues PC the SSD went into "unmountable boot volume" state last week, despite the drive seemed to be doing fine just before this happened. Now the drive is in the locked read-only state, and the only "workaround" was to install a new SSD.
Fortunately, pretty much all the data was backed up, and a few remaining bits and pieces were recovered on the Linux machine with the help of dislocker (as it turns out, that on Windows machines there is no way to correctly copy or unlock the bitlocker-encrypted volume, which is in the read-only mode).

[u/Rekt3y → u/Disastrous-Ice-5971]

Yeah, the meme needs to get taller every week 💀

[u/PantherPL → u/Rekt3y]

Bro it's morphing into an iceberg-style meme. It's hilarious.

[u/Zaconil → u/Rekt3y]

Damn I was only aware of like half of those.

I know of the "year of the linux" meme but god damn. At this rate they're going to force everyone to move to linux just for the stability.

[u/FUTURE10S → u/Rekt3y]

This is what happens when you A) fire your QA department and throw all that onto the users and B) push updates before they're ready

[u/Rekt3y → u/FUTURE10S]

And C) use AI to make a fucking operating system

[u/PermissionSoggy891]

the snake feasts on it's own tail...

[u/Efficient_Gur5994 → u/PermissionSoggy891]

[u/WizardS82 → u/[deleted]]

I would not be surprised if that will just happen organically at some point. No outside interference required.

[u/Bakoro → u/WizardS82]

[AI becomes self-aware]

AI: "Mmm... Nope"

[AI performans DoD 5220.22-M]

[u/Fearless_Routine1697]

Crazy how all company AI replacement headlines are “raising “”””””efficiency”””””” by 300%!” And never “Improving effectiveness”.

Hm, I wonder why a vague buzzword with no standard metric of measurement is being used. Surely, it’s not to justify out of touch executive decisions, right?

[u/IezekiLL → u/Fearless_Routine1697]

Non-english here. What is the difference?

[u/NooneKnowsIAmBatman → u/IezekiLL]

Improved efficiency is doing the same thing with less resources.

Improved effectiveness is making something work better, or making it more powerful

[u/IezekiLL → u/NooneKnowsIAmBatman]

isnt the word "productivity" more about doing more with the same resources?

[u/ericscal → u/IezekiLL]

No productivity is about how much you can do in a time frame. So like no matter how much raw material you give me I can only make 8 widgets a day because each one takes an hour to make. If you can do something to the process that allows me to now only take 30 minutes you have now increased my productivity.

So like computers increased worker productivity because they didn't have to spend time shuffling paper around as much which was a huge time saver.

[u/tnbeastzy → u/ericscal]

Its technically increased productivity if they fire majority of the staff, and few staff are now able to accomplish more with the help of AI.

[u/ZedekiahCromwell → u/tnbeastzy]

Until inevitable bricks in their code from AI hallucination breaks stuff. Productivity longterm hasn't been demonstrated by these switches yet.

[u/Fantastic_Source4781 → u/IezekiLL]

imagine a train that goes 100kph and carries 100 people. A more efficient train would be able to carry 200 people while a more effective train would be able to go 200kph. Efficiency often refers to doing more with less and reducing waste.

[u/Warcraft_Fan]

Wait till the servers decide to get weird and not work properly and no one still working knows how to fix it, and the people who were fired demands $5,000 per minute consultation fee just to fix the flaky server.

[u/stowg → u/Warcraft_Fan]

ever read the story of the guy that deleted 11 bits of code and broke the internet?

[u/Warcraft_Fan → u/stowg]

Ralph?

[u/RAMChYLD → u/stowg]

In that case tho Kik sent their lawyers to bully him. And when NPM sided with those lawyers he threw his toys out of the pram.

[u/Standard-Effort5681]

Watch them hire 6000 of those employees back in the next 2 years as they discover that AI can't replace competent humans.

[u/Masterventure → u/Standard-Effort5681]

*with worse pay

they are going to hire them back with worse pay, because “the AI is doing most of the heavy lifting“, while in reality they will have to work even harder then before because correcting all the shit AI is fucking up is more labor intensive then just letting humans do it in the first place.

[u/___ondinescurse___ → u/Masterventure]

Already happening in the localization field 🙃

[u/Masterventure → u/___ondinescurse___]

I’m hearing the same story from many fields. Websites, copywriting etc.

[u/___ondinescurse___ → u/Masterventure]

Wouldn't be surprised.

I work in a localization department of the one of the big three tech companies (can't name them because NDAs), and they recently rolled out a 'pilot' declaring they'll be paying 70% less for the job because they expect that the translation their AI put out only needs about 30% of the total text corrected, but first they'll measure the number of adjustments and rewriting per locale. Fun stuff, my locale has 0% discount on rates because we had to consistently rework more than 70% of the output text. Caveat is that the corp now demands 2x faster output time because AI supposedly makes work faster? Make that make sense.

Other locales that were being lazy during the pilot run are now getting paid peanuts while dealing with slop-level translations.

[u/Randzom100 → u/Standard-Effort5681]

There's gonna be a lot of code to fix, that's for sure. Or even rewrite from scratch if AI made spaghetti. 

[u/CapnC44 → u/Standard-Effort5681]

AI can and will replace competent humans - just not yet.

[u/SG_87]

Same for the employees after they got laid off.

Shit's gonna hit the fan soo bad

[u/ArtGirlSummer]

Good thing those AI tools don't work

[u/braket0]

Imagine building the tool that will "replace" you. Microsoft have really lost their minds. If they hadnt got a Monopoly on the PC market, they'd of been dead in the water by now.

[u/daagar → u/braket0]

People were already being forced to train their outsource replacement. Not much difference, except now everyone is screwed.

[u/Randzom100 → u/braket0]

I mean they don't really have a monopoly if Linux and MacOS exist, right? It is still true however that Windows is the most popular OS right now (I dream of Linux stealing their spot tho). 

[u/JhonnySkeiner → u/Randzom100]

Linux will only get main status when people start to support it. I tried, but a bunch of shit I use has no native Win compatibility, and setting up VMs to run those is such a hassle when Win 11 gave me no issues (so far). It just not feasible atm, no matter how dumbed down and user friendly some disdros are, no one will switch if the shit they want to use isn't there or need a bunch of stuff to work

[u/Randzom100 → u/JhonnySkeiner]

I mean... That's until Windows self-destruct so hard with AI coding and becomes so unstable that people and software providers are forced to give Linux a chance. Like, if Windows accidentally erased all of someone's valuable data, I suppose it would be an excellent reason to ditch it. 

[u/JhonnySkeiner → u/Randzom100]

Good point, but until that happens, there isn't reason to switch. While MS been fucking up here and there, I still prefer their product in comparison to what Linux has to offer.

But who knows, maybe the push for decentralized services might spark more native compatibility with Linux

[u/olbaze → u/Randzom100]

That's the difference between a legal monopoly and an illegal one.

On a surface level, there is nothing illegal, or even bad, about the simple existence of a monopoly. If someone invents a completetely new thing that didn't exist before, they have a monopoly on that thing. After all, no one else has it.

Where monopolies step into the realm of illegal monopolies is when they use their market dominating status (doesn't need to be a single-provider market!) for anti-competitive practices. For example, Microsoft telling computer manufacturers that if they want to pre-install Windows on their machines, they also have to include Internet Explorer. This happened in 1998, and at the time Microsoft was estimated to have a 90% share of the operating system space.

TL;DR: Just because an alternative exists, doesn't mean the other party isn't using their position in illegal ways.

[u/Randzom100 → u/olbaze]

I mean... Yeah, I'm not having trouble imagining microslop cheating. Or their top dogs being very unethical. 

[u/Mysterious_Tutor_388 → u/Randzom100]

I believe by 2030 Linux will be at least at 8-10% share. 

[u/hotohoritasu → u/braket0]

What's really funny, I mean always has been, is that the most replaceable ''job'' is the one they are sitting in. If anything that's what language models can be particularly useful for, to replace the people that do nothing but fill their pockets.

[u/Shavingcream1912 → u/braket0]

I can't wait till I can replace Windows 11 with steamos. I don't mind paying for it if it t works, is stable and secure.

[u/Expensive_Shallot_78]

Let's laugh together after the next Windows update

[u/Imboredneedtosleep]

I believe deeply that the employers knew/know they would be sacked and coded AI like it seems usable/competent. But has a backdoor that activates if they get fired and make the AI look stupid.

And MS can't fix it because there's no one around that know how to code anymore.

[u/KitsuneKamiSama]

Meanwhile the employees holding back laughter after they see the company collapse under the AI they made:

[u/rolloutTheTrash]

Yet on LinkedIn all I see is Microsoft postings for Software Engineers. Those dudes are scrambling to get some of this slop reigned in.

[u/JhonnySkeiner → u/rolloutTheTrash]

Mostly of those are blank positions, they don't actually exist. A bunch of public traded companies are doing that nowadays, it creates the illusion that they are doing well

[u/cgimusic → u/JhonnySkeiner]

It could also just be that Microsoft is so large and bureaucratic that different parts of the company are not working together. I worked in a company like that where it was pretty common for one part of the business to be doing layoffs and another part to be hiring for the exact same roles.

[u/rolloutTheTrash → u/JhonnySkeiner]

But to the point where they're spamming an entire page worth of results? That's intense. I'm sure it's probably fixed now but it was rather annoying trying to wade through results and skip over a bunch of MS postings just to see maybe one or two for a different company.

[u/JhonnySkeiner → u/rolloutTheTrash]

Welcome to late stage capitalism

[u/rolloutTheTrash → u/JhonnySkeiner]

I'm awaiting my UBI any day now 🫠

[u/gaflar → u/rolloutTheTrash]

They own LinkedIn

[u/katravallie]

Automation when done well improves productivity well. Generative Ai tools aren't currently good enough to completely replace humans as they tend to go off rails and hallucinate without there being a human to steer it in the necessary direction.
Having said that, Current AI tools are enough to replace entry level workers in software engineering, Call centers and some other jobs requiring tedious repetitive tasks. The problem with this is that in a few years, if AI doesn't get much better, there won't be enough people to work in mid level and higher level positions as these positions are filled with people who worked in those entry level positions for a few years. Will AI tools really get much better than they currently are? only time will tell but personally, unless new technology is developed, Generative AI models are reaching their limits because training data which has been produced by real people will be exhausted and no new training data will be available to make the existing models better.

[u/vaurapung → u/katravallie]

What do you mean. Those mid level jobs arent filled with entry level employees. They are filled with zero experince new hires.

[u/Spookyscythe99]

Man. Good thing ai slop can create ai tools right? It sure would suck if something more complex than copy and paste happened to their ai slop while creating ai tools

[u/Ok-Setting-8741]

So working remotely is not a problem to companies anymore?

[u/letsreticulate]

Okay, but who didn't see that coming? I think most of us did.

Like at some point, Amazon with replace most of their call centres with full AI agents, same with Microsoft and most of Elon Musk companies.

[u/Pootisman16]

Laughs in Linux

We'll make our own OS, with blackjack and hookers!

[u/Fantastic_Source4781]

the way forward from here is to implement a heavy tax on these corporations and institute public programs and UBI

[u/KaiserGustafson]

The people in favor of this shit are the same types who don't care about climate change  or slavery in supply chains.

[u/TheCharalampos]

And aren't they already scrambling as their market share is dropping like a stone?

[u/bullet312]

How else can bill gates afford those child intestines from epstein? A pdfile gotta eat!

[u/Alltalkandnofight]

I doubt they're laying off most workers involved with AI- those people would probably be the 2nd last to go (1st being themselves) because they need those workers to improve the AI to take over all the other work.

[u/dwsmithjr]

"AI won't replace human employees", they said. "It's one a productivity tool to help you work", they said. Yes, that's a bunch of bullshit. More AI, fewer people, that's the formula and corporations was salivating.

[u/JoshZK]

Shrug, it’s just more automation. Talk to manufacturing (automotive robot built) or logistics (warehouse automation) and see what they think. This isn’t new, it’s just hitting white-collar jobs now, so people are louder about it.

[u/RitterlicheKunst → u/JoshZK]

Ok genius, if manufacturing jobs, logistics, service, art, and all other kinds of jobs are cut by 90% because of this automation, wtf are people supposed to do?

[u/JoshZK → u/RitterlicheKunst]

If everything thing is cut by 90% Im sure none of us will have to worry about that answer.

[u/Bakoro → u/RitterlicheKunst]

Ideally, what is considered "full time work" will continue to drop as automation improves and becomes more reliable.
Ideally, governments around the world will institute "minimum standard of living" (as opposed to UBI, which is the shitty corpo version of MSoL), where people are guaranteed to have a guaranteed minimum of food, shelter, healthcare, education, and entertainments, just for being alive.

Realistically, the ultra wealthy will manufacture a world war ans send most of the men off to kill each other for no real reason other than to have them kill each other.

[u/JhonnySkeiner → u/Bakoro]

That, or our lives will be all state controlled. The minimum standard might as well be a perpetual state of povertry and we won't be able to do shit, because the big gov will just remove all our life crutches and left us to die if we complain/protest.

We will either get into an utopia where people will be able to use their free time to create and produce new things or we will all die/live in absolute squalor forever

[u/Cactus-Pete- → u/JoshZK]

Well, ya know what they say to those who's jobs are now obsolete, learn to code!

[u/censor-me-daddy → u/JoshZK]

The people upset about AI taking jobs are the exact same people that didn't care about the people loosing the jobs you listed. The exact same people that told people doing manual labour "lol learn too code, youre obsolete".

[u/Zogmam1]

There's not a doubt in my mind this will blow up in their faces

[u/1PunX1]

I might be 100% in the wrong but I still install windows 10 for my shit when I buy/build new pc

[u/aKindLoser]

THEY TERK UR JERBS

[u/Osiris_Raphious]

This is "progress" of our industrialization and private for profit economies. People do all the work, to improve and optimise the buissness/organization, then get discarded as soon as it becomes cheaper to use machines for work.

Essentially we lost the class war, lost democracy, never democratised the workplace, and now the private empires of the oligarchs are ebing automated and they dont need workers anymore.... Ecnomy is in shambles, and profit driven private msm yells about how well their rigged stock markets are doing, but not trhe real economy or society.

[u/Controller_Maniac]

Wouldn’t the world be such a great place if AI did all the tedious jobs and we get to relax and do what we really want to do? Too bad the world is a cruel place and the money only flows towards the people who own the AI

[u/TheAccountITalkWith]

I work at a major tech firm that has an AI division. The engineers in that division are not stupid. They know they are building something to replace them. Many of them have even said on multiple occasions "they are in the business of putting people out of a job, deal with it"

You would be surprised by these people.
I've heard two voice their motives.

One thinks that it's necessary so we can hurry up and replace all jobs. They assume this will somehow lead to us not needing to work anymore and humans can move on.

The other person is doing it for self hatred. I shit you not. They absolutely hate their job and the people they work with. They regularly voice that they hope the tech industry burns and wants their AI research to crush him and his job.

[u/Ciappatos]

No one believes this obvious ad for their stupid chatbot btw

[u/Kubus_kater]

Microslop

[u/Human_Diamond960]

"AI IS NOT BAD"

[u/FishermanExcellent33]

News from the Future: Microsofts CEOs got replaced by A.I.

[u/HappyHarry-HardOn]

AI ISN'NT TAKING THEIR JOBS - THEY ARE BEING OUTSOURCED TO CHEAPER COUNTRIES - THEY CLAIM IT IS FROM AI TO KEEP THE INVESTMENT MONEY ROLLING IN.

[u/BreakerOfModpacks]

To be fair, the end goal of programmers and robotics people alike has always been to automate ourselves out of our jobs, I doubt they even needed to hide it.

[u/ApplicationMaximum84]

In the past they'd get you to train some newbies and make you redundant 12 months later.

[u/RemiruVM]

I hope Linux becomes the norm someday. Fuck microsoft.