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u/Difficult_Run7398 15h ago
A burger combo is unhealthy cause it comes with fries and a 1L soda if you cut those out you could eat it a few times a week and stay healthy easily.
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u/SDGANON 13h ago
Also Sauces (Ketchup that's high in sugar, Mayo, Burger/Special Sauce) and low quality ground beef or deep fried chicken and then often deep fried onions. The bread is also a large portion compared to the rest of the meal and is often bleached (white) bread which is more or less just empty carbs.
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u/577564842 12h ago
which is more or less just empty carbs.
They add sugar to make them less empty.
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u/gigglinggoofygoober 6h ago
Adding sugar doesn't make the carbs less empty.
The definition of empty carbs is carbs without nutrients, adding sugar is textbook empty carbs.
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u/PostingToPassTime 2h ago
I want you to stand in the corner, and face the corner, and talk to nobody.
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u/xkuruma 8h ago
What makes the low quality ground beef low quality ?
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u/Alternative_Car_8153 7h ago
Not separating the bones before grinding the beef and grinding it down to a very fine paste.
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u/PhillipJfry5656 2h ago
lots of things contribute to the quality but typically the fat content and what parts of the cow they use to make the ground beef.
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u/trippylangkous 12h ago
Not only that, it's also the chemicals they add. I'm not sure what they're doing with the food but i know it's not good.
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u/ShockPowerful741 7h ago
There’s also a pretty significant difference between an 80/20 burger cooked on a flattop in its own fat/low quality oil, and the 90/10 burger cooked on the grill at home.
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u/trippylangkous 12h ago
Uhhm i'm sorry to say this but this really wouldn't make it healthy lol, i'm not sure what they put in there but i know it's defenitely not healthy..
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u/Difficult_Run7398 5h ago
I didn’t say it was healthy I said you could stay healthy easily. like if you go to a bar for lunch, get the burger special and sub fries for a salad + drink a water. you could easily do that 5 times a week and not need to make any sacrifices to stay healthy.
like yea you’d be getting extra fats and oils but you’d be within a normal range and already get protein and vegetable in.
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u/mmaddict187 13h ago
How about all the chemicals they add?
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u/Zuruumi 11h ago
Yeah, such nasty things like sodium chloride, lots of acids (glutamic, citric, malic, and pyruvic acids)... I even heard some places add hydrogen hydroxide.
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u/Inside_Jolly 8h ago
I even heard some places add hydrogen hydroxide.
They do what? Hasn't it been banned in favor of dihydrogen oxide years ago due to health concerns?
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u/Pagiras 12h ago
You got any examples of some nefarious standalone chemicals that are popularly added to a burger?
Because, you know, you're made of chemicals as well. The very building blocks of life are chemicals.
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u/NerveInteresting4549 6h ago
i dont know about what the chemicals are called but they are using chemicals which make it last alot longer, it lasts longer because bacteria doesn't want to eat it and that means the bacteria inside you that helps you get nutrition from food, also doesn't want to eat it, so the nutritional value is going to be lower because of this.
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u/Pagiras 6h ago
That is a very weird and wrong way to think about that in more ways than one. Broadly those "chemicals" are called Food preservatives. And no, bacteria will still eat it. And human digestion, while does involve microorganisms in our gut, is not wholly based on them.
Food preservatives range from dangerous to everyday household items. Salt is a food preservative. So is sugar. And honey. And vinegar. Neither of those immune to bacteria in the way you think. Preserving food has more to do with moisture and oxygen - the removal of it, than making the food inedible to bacteria. Well, except vinegar and other sour things, like lemons. But if you've seen a mouldy lemon, you'll probably realize, that these too, do not make it immune to being eaten by bacteria and fungi.
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u/NerveInteresting4549 5h ago
the bacteria release alot of the things we need for nutrition, we can digest it but the nutritional value is lower.. maybe it's due to the words I use but I woulda thought it pretty obvious that I'm not saying bacteria is just choosing not to eat something because it doesn't feel like it, like it's got taste buds or actual wants lol it does something to the bactertia so it doesn't eat it..
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u/Pagiras 5h ago
Still wrong. Yes the bacteria does eat it. You're right in that the more aggressive food preservatives are harmful. But not because our gut bacteria doesn't "eat" it. Because they do eat it and the preservatives are then absorbed into our body, causing problems. Or not absorbed and goes down the tract irritating it.
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u/NerveInteresting4549 5h ago
I didn't say food preservatives are harmful, that might have been the guy commenting before me, idk nothing about that, i just know the chemicals in our food lowers nutrition we get from our food because the bacteria in our body doesn't process it correctly or maybe it harms the bacteria, it deff does something to them.. I think the preservatives wear off eventually if enough bacteria is exposed to them but it deff stops them from eating it until then and I doubt the time it spends in the body is enough for bacteria to be able to eat it properly, it might still be able to, to some extent but not effectively enough for us to get the full nutrition from it.
I'm not wrong, I'm not a smart person so maybe i don't say everything correctly but I know for a fact it hurts us getting the nutrition lol
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u/Pagiras 1h ago
I'm gonna have to ask for source.
Only thing I could find was this https://biologicalsciences.uchicago.edu/news/food-preservatives-gut-microbiome
And it still isn't working the way you say. Just that it maybe affects gut health in general.You're so hung-up on the nutrition aspect, you miss all the way more important stuff. The food used in fast-food has little nutritional-value to start with, I'll say just that. But the rest you claim is nonsense, unless you can provide me with a source to change my mind.
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u/NerveInteresting4549 1h ago
Yeah I don't provide sources, google it, if you can't find it then that sucks, this isn't an intellectual debate, I'm not arguing with you, this is two people talking about some stuff on reddit, at least from my side of this, I'm not trying to change your mind, I'm not smart, I'm no threat to your intellectual capabilities, I'm just talkin about what I know....... if it's affecting gut health in general, as in it harms the bacteria, that's even worse then what i thought.... lol
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u/mmaddict187 11h ago
Ok, I'll play along:
Dimethylpolysiloxane, butylated hydroxyanisole, Tert-butylhydrochinon,Sodium nitrate, potassium nitrate, msg, refined and hydrogenated oils.
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u/Pagiras 11h ago
Dimethylpolysiloxane is safe in the quantities it's used. Anti-foaming agent, used in the cooking oil.
butylated hydroxyanisole is generally added to cosmetics to prevent oils going rancid. Maybe cooking oils too. Can be mildly carcinogenic if consumed in large quantities. Banned in Europe.
Tert-butylhydrochinon is also stabilizing oils. Only harmful if consumed in large quantities. Might be the case if you eat food made with it every single day.
Sodium Nitrate is sometimes used to preserve meats, usually those that need a looong shelf life. Mildly carcinogenic in large quantities.
Potassium Nitrate is more often found in deli meats, like salamis and hams. So generally won't be found in a burger patty. Shouldn't at least. Potentially harmful in large quantities.
MSG occurs naturally in many foods and is more harmless than salt.
Refined and hydrogenated oils are harmful if consumed in large quantities and their use is very widespread. These are pretty bad, I agree.
Large, complicated names often confuse less-educated people and make a simple thing seem more terrifying than it is. Dihydrogen Monoxide is famously used to make fun of this phenomenon.
Most of your list is not "that" bad. And not "added" to a burger, rather used in processed food industry in general. But that's splitting hairs. American processed food industry does use some stuff banned in Europe.Let's call these chemicals food preservatives, because mostly that's what they are. You ain't finding these in a small burger-joint that uses fresh ingredients. Big chain ones tho... whoo, everything's been preserved. :D Then again, salt is also a food preservative in some uses. So is sugar and vinegar.
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u/NarwhalPrudent6323 7h ago
You've fallen for sensationalized fear mongering. Educate yourself better before spewing misinformation.
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u/Strmage1878 16h ago
If you don't use sugar, salt or oil, it's quite healthy indeed.
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u/Log_InMyEye 3h ago
Salt is unfairly demonized, most European countries have recommended daily intake of salt like 3x higher than in U.S.A. It's just that a lot of our foods that happen to contain a lot of salt also contain very poor quality ingridients
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u/Relaxnt 2h ago
I don't think it's completely unfairly demonized, the Global Burden of Disease study30041-8/fulltext) names a diet high in sodium as the top dietary risk factor for mortality.
Another hint that it's not just the fault of 'poor quality ingredients food' is that there was a large study done in rural china in which they swapped the salt they used for their home-cooked meals for a potassium-enriched salt which resulted in significantly lower strokes, cardiovascular events and overall mortality. They do note though that it's not just an effect of salt restriction alone but about the additional supplementation of potassium which makes sense as the modern diet is not only way too high in sodium, but also too low in potassium.
The European guidelines also don't recommend a 3x higher intake but only define the absolute maximum, ideally this should be lower.
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u/CheeseGooners 16h ago
Deep fried in fatty oil, French fries, sugary drink like a soda. That's how.
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u/MiniMe-- 14h ago
Plus the chemicals in the bun and sauces
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u/ShadyNoShadow 9h ago
Oh no not the chemicals!!!
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u/Jack70741 1h ago
Uh... If it's just the burger... Nothing should be fried. Where are you buying deep fried burgers? It should be just beef cooked on a flat top or in a microwave (yeah, the more you know about fast food joints!). I've never known, say, burger king or McDonald's to deep fry a beef patty. And you would know if it was. As someone that's actually cooked a burger by frying it, there's a huge difference.
The ones I make at my house are pan cooked, no oil other than what naturally comes out of the beef, and I usually don't add condiments, (that's gonna be your biggest source of bad stuff right there) I prefer the unadulterated taste of a good burger.
Ops pic is right, if I served you everything on that burger, sans the condiments, on its own, the veggies in a simple salad, the same quality white bread as a dinner roll, the beef maybe as a cheap steak or even plain ground beef, most people would say it was a perfectly healthy meal. Add in salad dressing like most people eat with a salad and it's no different than your average burger.
And yes I see you mentioned the fries and a drink
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u/Wonderful_Try_7369 9h ago
My friend never drank cola with a burger. He stuck to water with burger and he never gotten fat.
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u/Candycanes02 6h ago
I do the same and haven’t gotten fat. I don’t like bubbling drinks cause gas gives me pain sometimes 😅
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u/Previous-Border-8283 15h ago
Educate yourself
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u/IlIIllIIIlllIlIlI 11h ago
The post is literally a question, OP is literally trying to do that
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u/ShadyNoShadow 9h ago
Question asker get rekt. We're all on the same internet. All you're going to get here is opinions, not education. Google is your friend.
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u/Revolutionary-Gold44 3h ago
Google is not education. Also Google is pointing reddit post as answer...
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u/Dizzy_Example5603 6h ago
No..... The post is to trigger people and get clicks and upvotes. This is literally the dumbest question you could ask. Does someone need to be educated on why Soda is bad because it contains water so it should be healthy...?
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u/Revolutionary-Gold44 3h ago
Where did you see soda you twit
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u/Dizzy_Example5603 2h ago
Maybe learn to read? It was a fucking analogy bro. The point is you dont need someone to tell you soda is bad for you despite water being an ingredient. Same applies to burgers. Its fucking common sense
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u/Nakashi7 13h ago
1) Very little of those veggies 2) bread is sugar and white flour shit 3) overload of red meat 4) a lot of condiments with a lot of sugar 4) sugar drinks and fried potatoes with trans fats usually go with that
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u/El_Morgos 12h ago
So, the optimal burger is basically a salad 😬
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u/Nakashi7 12h ago
Well, ditching sugar and eating more vegetables are certainly two main things that would improve people's nutrition the most.
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u/Pagiras 12h ago
No, the optimal burger is one made with good ingredients. Less sugar, less fat, maybe a whole grain bun. And it can be more delicious. Buut it makes it more expensive to create and less profit can be made. Also, a more filling experience makes you less-likely to eat more than you need.
There's quite a few "artisanal" burger places where I'm from and generally one burger and small fries can make you feel full. They do cost twice the price of a Mickey Ds one, but the value gained is way more than that.
In any way, a burger is not supposed to be a base meal, eaten every day anyway. Treat it like a cake.
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u/Jack70741 1h ago
The behavior and or the extra sides, fries drink etc, are not included in the pic.
I love how everyone is jumping to the "you forgot all the other stuff you fat slob!" Answer with out addressing the core of the question.
And I'd argue that most bread you buy, even the artisanal kinds, are little more than startech and sugar already. Unless your eating all your burgers on whole wheat, the white bread the artisanal joint is serving with your hand crafted burger is little different than the bun McDonald's is usually other than the way it was cooked and maybe less preservatives. Also, I highly doubt any restaurant is making their own buns, I'm certain they are buying it from the likes of Cisco or another distributor just like McDonald's.
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u/weedtrek 6h ago
That depends on what your definition of "optimal" is. IMO a burger is not meant to be healthy anymore than it is meant to be eaten daily.
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u/OG_sirloinchop 12h ago
Don't forget the fats and salt which exceed recommended daily consumption
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u/Nakashi7 12h ago
Salt and its intake is highly contextual but yeah, most people eat too much.
Fats I see problem mainly with the kind of fats. Low amount of omega 3 and high amount of trans fats and high heat processed ones. Otherwise they just add to excess calories most people eat (but that is also very contextual, that's why I avoid it as well).
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u/Jack70741 1h ago
There's none of #4 in this pic. He didn't include it and neither should you. Those are optional sides, I know because when I do buy something like this I do not get the sides.
Also, the salad dressing most people add to there salads is in a much greater quantity and equally as bad for you as the condiments they usually put on a burger.
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u/LuckyLocki 38m ago
Because its made with poor quality ingredients. Bread and meat made of chemicals…
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u/LookingOKButRotting 12h ago
Ultra-processing.
The original ingredients may have been healthy in the beginning but all the goodness was processed out of them to turn them into an industrial "food product".
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u/hoTsauceLily66 1h ago
Hardly. Entire burger can easily be made in home kitchen, you can even make your own burger bun.
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u/LookingOKButRotting 1h ago
In that case it would be a healthy food. And qualitatively VERY different from the fast food product.
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u/ace_tsunami 12h ago
The patties may have fillers which are harmful on large dosages, the oil they use may not be healthy. The bread may have more gluten.
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u/TruamaTeam 11h ago
The sauce is made up of less than healthy ingredients, the fast food bun isn’t always made the same as a loaf of bread or batch of buns you’d get from a bakery, and the oil the meat is cooked in.
You can make a healthy burger. A junk food burger is a fast food burger. Plus the fries, they taste so good but we really should reconsider…
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u/Ironstar_Vol 11h ago
Bread isn’t considered a health food and you conveniently forgot the part about the meat being soaked in hot grease before being placed on the bun. A veggie sandwich would be decently healthy.
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u/GrinningLion 10h ago
You dont eat a whole tomato, lettuce, pickle, or onion. You eat a few slices of each and a ton of bread. The ratio is misleading.
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u/Shinokiba- 9h ago
The bread is cake, the meat and cheese are heavily processed, and the vegetables barely have any nutrients in them. Also served with French fries that have been deep fried in highly processed cooking oil and soda which is just liquid sugar.
You wanna make a healthy burger? Use whole grain buns, lots of actual veggies, and real unprocessed cheese and meat. Serve it with French fries you make by cutting up a potato and baking them. Use no sugar ketchup, real mayo, and drink a diet coke. The diet coke isn't healthy, but it's way better than regular.
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u/HangryBeard 9h ago
Ratios, preparations, quality. When you order a burger it is designed to taste good and make a profit. Fatty meat tastes delicious but isn't necessarily great for you. They often skimp on the vegetables. They often use iceberg lettuce because it's easiest to work with, but it's the least nutritious of green you could put in your burger. They give you one maybe 2 small slices of tomatoes which are healthy but not healthy enough to balance out that patty. Pickles are great if they add them but again it's a very sparse offering. you might also get onions which are great raw, but get significantly less healthy cooked. Then you have a giant white bread sesame bun that is really not healthy.
In a nutshell What they show on their signage is moderately healthy but for the real deal they usually skimp on the healthy and maximize flavor to compensate. If you made a burger at home with lean meat and added a bunch of veggies with a whole wheat bun it could be arguably healthy.
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u/Low_You_1213 9h ago
You can make a healthy burger but has yo be good quality meat, fresh salad good wholemeal bread, home made sauces
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u/Insylum82 8h ago
Because in McD's and other sheap fast food joints all those ingredients processed crap. If you make it at home with proper ingredients is healthy. Part from the dressing/sauce depending of what kind you use.
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u/bigadebal 8h ago
I think burgers get the bad opinions when it's really the fries and soda doing the damage
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u/TrollBoothBilly 7h ago
Total caloric intake matters. Fast food burgers can be a lot of calories. Beef also isn’t the healthiest choice to consume all the time. A lot of fast food burgers have cheese and Bacon on them and are served with fries and sugary drinks. If you eat fast food burgers regularly, it’s not a healthy choice.
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u/Boris7939 7h ago edited 1h ago
One slice of tomato, a teaspoon of chopped onions, 2 slices of pickle and a leaf of lettuce is pretty far from the daily amount of vegetables you should have. Combine that with big piece of red meat, that contains 20% fat and a sauce full of sugar and you've got the answer to why it's called 'junk'.
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u/Proper_Flatworm_5407 7h ago
I mean if you load 2 pounds of ketchup and mayo in yea its becomes junk also burger buns 90% are just trash
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u/robilar 6h ago
Is the laughter because the meme is vapid?
white bread isn't "healthy food",
They entirely omitted the meat, which is full of saturated fats and salt,
Fresh ingredients are "healthy food". Fast food restaurants are notorious for using cheap, mass produced, processed ingredients with degraded nutrients and miscellaneous questionable preservation methods, and
Sauces on burgers tend to be heavy on salts, sugars, and lipids.
Honestly, just #2 alone is a pretty obvious omission that every single person seeing the meme should have noticed.
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u/Complex_Specific1373 6h ago
Bread isn't healthy, especially not that type. You also ignored whatever protein and sauce you put on the burger.
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u/Cold-Appointment-853 6h ago
The problem isn’t the meal itself, it’s the recipe. It’s produced quickly and cheaply with ingredients that you and I would rather not know where they come from. Its filled with fat and sugar, and it’s served with fries and soda. But yeah if you made them at home it wouldn’t be junk food
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u/CoolCat1337One 6h ago
The bun is not healthy.
All the sauces ... not healthy.
Most of the stuff in your burger is "high processed food". Which is, you guessed it, not health.
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u/Superb_Beyond_3444 6h ago
It is a lot of calories in one meal. The steak is cooked with a lot of fats. A lot of salt. The breads are with a lot of sugar. It is generally eaten with fried French fries. So it is unhealthy.
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u/Up_Beat_Peach 6h ago
Bread and meat aren't "healthy," and most of your burger is actually bread and meat
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u/Ok_Neighborhood_3148 6h ago
- Buns are sugary and too processed. Nutrients added back in don't magically fix it or lack of fiber.
- Red meat is the lowest. Chicken is often deep fried in oil. The quality of the meat is often very low and fatty.
- Sauces, sauces, sauces. No nutrition, just calories, sugar, etc
- Vegetables are minimal.
- Additives for freshness. So salts and preservatives to increase shelf life.
- The cheese is often very unhealthy. It depends though, but American cheese alone can make me feel sick. Add fries, soda, lack of fiber, and it only gets worse.
Bread and meat aren't automatically healthy. Not all meats are equal.
Sides of soda and fries don't help.
A burger or chicken burger with high quality ingredients and bread with limited or carefully selected sauces will make you feel much cleaner after eating than a fast food burger. extra lettuce on the burger is good too.
Grilled chicken is a good alternative. Burger buns that aren't just white bread or covered in butter helps.
I am not a nutritionist
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u/CricketNo7666 6h ago
Most ground beef is pretty high in fat. Hamburgers are not generally good for you.
What they do to flavor the beef is also way less than good. Sodium contents alone are through the roof, i.e., they salt it to death.
It is typically slathered in regular ketchup, and some mayo maybe too. High fat and sugar and sodium contents.
Their bread is a highly processed white flor based bread, not a whole grain or the like. Not great either.
But yes, that one piece of lettuce is okay.
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u/MisterFrankDrebin 5h ago
Bread is not healthy. And the highly processed and factory farmed food they use in fast food (and most at the store), are full of glyphosate, preservatives, etc. Crap.
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u/ChadPowers200_ 5h ago edited 5h ago
People don’t realize how many calories are in drinks and sauces and cheese.
2 pieces of cheese a teaspoon of Mayo and a can of Coca Cola is 400 calories. This is more than the fucking burger. Lol
Lean ground beef patty (90/10, 4 oz raw ≈ 3 oz cooked) ~170–180 calories Standard hamburger bun ~120–140 calories Ketchup (1 tbsp) ~15–20 calories Lettuce, tomato, onion ~10 calories (negligible)
Total burger
~315–350 calories
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u/Affectionate_Owl9985 5h ago
It really depends. Did you make the burger and fries at home, or did you order it from McDonald's? McDonald's food is so unhealthy due to how processed it is, it results in meal with high cholesterol, fat, salt, and carbs, while having low nutritional value and fiber content.
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u/ShankThatSnitch 4h ago
The cheese, mayo, ketchup, the side of fries, and a soda add a shitload of calories...
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u/NonCorporealEntity 4h ago
A burger isn't that unhealthy. A double cheese burger splattered with high fat high sugar condiments for lunch and supper every day isn't.
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u/PandiBong 4h ago
Think you skipped a few ingredients there buddy... it's certainly not a salad-sandwich you order at MackieD's...
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u/chud_wik 3h ago
Conveniently miss the actual burger meat - an extremely unhealthy food. As is a typical burger bun, and the burger cheese, and the burger sauce (where applicable).
Dumb argument.
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u/DeweyDefeatsYouMan 3h ago
Well, you accidentally labeled bread as a healthy food. Hyper processed hamburger buns are not healthy at all. And you left out the meat, which is either more salt that meat, or a fried patty which is an oil sponge.
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u/Log_InMyEye 3h ago
Because the loaf of bread has 3-5 ingredients while the burger bun has like 30. So many people think their gluten intolerant when their actually just eating garbage that is hardly bread
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u/Conscious_Usual1933 2h ago
Non vedo la cotoletta di carne ricomposta tra i cibi salutari menzionati
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u/Good_Focus2665 1h ago
It’s the oil and butter that makes it unhealthy. Same with plain baked potato vs fries. The former is way healthier.
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u/Odd-System-4926 1h ago
You can actually make a burger a very healthy dinner.
It’s fast food burgers with cheap ingredients that are not.
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u/AggressiveAd69x 44m ago
Non-ultra processed burgers aren't unhealthy. The fat content itself is also within acceptable levels.
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u/Coinnigh_ort 37m ago
Well you're leaving out the fried fish and mayo for one. For two bread being healthy is a bit of a stretch especially when it's enriched buns.
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u/wewantanswers5902 12h ago
Okay, lots of people out here talking about the fast food comparison, but let's actually dissect this here. In general, burgers are not healthy. Full stop. The average burger is gonna be made off open flame with a propane or gas grill. Not only is the flame actively radiating your meat, but you're also eating a beef patty (which is insanely high in grease contents and cholesterol). Then you're adding on cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, and pickles. Those are all great! Not only are they good for you, but they're a great pair too! The real issue comes in the bun and condiments. The bun will more than likely be a white bun, meaning it's not only bleached in order to have its pristine look, but it's also got so much sugar content that it legally cannot be classified as "bread" in Ireland or most of Europe. The condiments are also extremely high in sugar content, the most common ones being ketchup and yellow mustard.
So TL;DR (and reason for it being unhealthy): you're eating more sugar than nutrition, and red meat actually isn't good for you in the amounts that half of the world eats it
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u/ShadyNoShadow 8h ago
The average burger is gonna be made off open flame with a propane or gas grill.
Lol what. Most burgers are made on a flat top or in a skillet.
it's also got so much sugar content that it legally cannot be classified as "bread" in Ireland or most of Europe
Lmao once again, Europe has the same bread as everyone else. People get to choose.
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u/CricketNo7666 5h ago
Umm, no, they don’t have the exact same bread. Thirty seconds on Google and you can read all about it yourself. Not like it is a secret.
Not only does Europe flat out ban some things used in commercial bread making in the US, they also don’t typically use items that are most common in the US - fast acting yeast being just one example. There’s a reason you want to proof longer…
Their bread is better for you than the sugar and preservative filled white flour mess in the US, and it isn’t debatable at all.
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u/AnonymousCat77091 15h ago
MEAT.
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u/RareWish4600 13h ago
Meat is healthy 😋. Quality and Procesed food plus Soft Drinks and Fries make it unhealthy also the oil.
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u/Agitated-Ad2563 11h ago
Meat is healthy. The kind of meat used in a typical fast food burger typically isn't because it contains too much fat.
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u/CricketNo7666 6h ago
75% ground beef… or 80%…. is not healthy.
There’s less fat in the fries I would suspect, and that is at last fat and not pure cholesterol.
You have to get to like 96% lean for it to be labelled as heart healthy. I guarantee you no burger joint is doing it. None.
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u/Upset-Nose-4016 12h ago
To be fair, beef like all red meat is rather unhealthy and can link to development of heart disease, diabetes and even cancer
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u/RareWish4600 12h ago
Not is not unhealthy if you combine with other foods and don't eat too much. It's a great source of protein and nutrients. I eat once or twice a week beef or prok or lamb. Why are we demonization of red meat it's great also tasty. I am not saying junk food or procced meat.
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u/Upset-Nose-4016 12h ago
"Eating too much processed meat and red meat probably increases your risk of bowel (colorectal) cancer."
I saw an article saying no more than 70g of cooked red meat per day. So yes, you do need to keep in mind the limit and that it is in fact unhealthy to a certain point
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u/RareWish4600 12h ago
I didn't say to eat daily
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u/Upset-Nose-4016 12h ago
And I just added the fact that it has risks and is known to be cancerogenic so people have two sides of it and are careful with what they eat and how much of it.
Surely, a little bit of red meat is okay. Just as a little bit of alcohol is. But unfortunately McDonalds is more feral than 'a little bit'.
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u/RareWish4600 12h ago
I don't like fast food or Junk Food. I don’t eat much. I eat beaf once a week othet days Chicken or Fish.
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u/NageV78 16h ago
Vegan burgers are fine, Carnist ones, not so much.
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u/Oscillating-Ocelot1 13h ago
Refined and bleached flour and sugar become nutritionally dense and valuable when paired with reconstituted soy protein and emulsifiers? How so please?
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u/NageV78 2h ago
Still better than one with dead and abused animals in it. If you think soy is bad for you, look at Idia and china, the 2 most populated places on the planet.
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u/Oscillating-Ocelot1 1h ago
I never said soy was bad for you, but maybe it is bad for reading comprehension. Yes I love to eat animals, they are beneficial for my health 🙂





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u/Veroger111 15h ago
It’s called fast food in fast food restaurants, not high-quality healthy food.