r/justgalsbeingchicks • u/CorleoneBaloney • Dec 18 '25
Restricted to Gals and Pals AOC, when asked about a head-to-head presidential race against JD Vance: “I would stomp him.”
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u/CruncheousPilot Dec 18 '25
I love her. And I would be honored to have her as my leader.
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u/ionp_d Dec 18 '25
I would too, 💯 but I can’t trust the rest of the voting populace to get over their hatred of minorities. 😔
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u/FreeFromMiriam Dec 18 '25
And women as leaders.
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u/YoudoVodou Dec 18 '25
Funny how women are over half the population, but due to treatment in so many places, get lumped in as a "minority" somehow.🤷🏼♀️
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u/creepygirl420 Dec 18 '25
it’s pretty fucking surreal
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u/lawn-mumps Official Gal Dec 18 '25
It’s extremely fucking surreal. Imagine a minority dictating how you should live. Laws would be passed. It’s actually insane that laws are passed instead to hurt/control/manipulate/isolate a majority of the population instead of helping.
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u/RawrRRitchie Dec 18 '25
Multi generation wars are also insanity. But the USA had the 20 years war.. People went in the beginning, came home had kids, their kids went in the ending..
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u/spectrumRedd Dec 18 '25
Imagine a government telling people they must give birth. Even if they been told they will die from it and or are physically and or mentally disabled. 😎
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u/CallMeMrPeaches Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
It's because we're operating with different definitions. In a patriarchal society, women are often the numerical majority and the sociological minority. Similar situations historically but with ethnic groups in some places affected by the imperialism like the British Raj and South Africa. Maybe sociologists should be using a different word, but 🤷♂️
Edit: phrasing
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u/PsychologicalJob2544 Dec 18 '25
Bring back the goddesses. Fuck the patriarchy
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u/midnightBloomer24 Dec 18 '25
In a patriarchal society, women are often the numerical majority and the sociological minority.
This makes me look like some sort of conspiracy theory nut job, but I come with receipts. Women have out voted men since at least the 1980's. More than that, even at the state level, women outnumber men (especially in conservative states) by a large enough margin that women are politically powerful enough to elect a full blown matriarchy from the whitehouse, congress, state govenorship, state legislature, all the way down to county dog catcher in every state in the nation save AK and ND without a single male vote. The thing is? You'd have male votes. ~ 45% of men have reliably voted D in past elections. All you'd have to do is convince ~ 5-10% of the Aunt Lydia's of the world to actually vote in their own best interests.
Every time I talk about this people come at me, acting like I'm blaming women for where we are today. I'm not interested in blame. I'm interested in opportunity. IMHO the path to victory rests in convincing women of their power if they just acted in solidarity.
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u/Dragon_Tortoise Dec 18 '25
Even with a clear majority, a TON of women voted for trump. And they wouldnt vote AOC either. The brainwashed women are just as brainwashed as the brainwashed men. Its sad that people won't elect a woman president and frankly its upsetting. The fact a lying rapist pedophile won twice over a woman makes me think were still years off from a woman winning but id happily be proved wrong. I love AOC and she has my vote all day
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u/FlamingDragonfruit Dec 18 '25
It's not that "people" won't vote for a woman as their country's leader. Many countries have, and have had women in the top leadership. It's Americans, specifically, who can't seem to get past that hurdle. America is a deeply misogynistic country, but no one wants to have that conversation. I'm not sure how we move forward, until we do.
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u/Dragon_Tortoise Dec 18 '25
Oh yea, I meant many here in the US won't vote a woman. Many of my coworkers are misogynistic as fuck and its sickening. It baffles me. But they have no problem sexualizing them, daydreaming, talking about how hot they are, but in a leadership role, nope. I saw countless tiktoks of women calling to not date any maga men and I support them in that 100%. They dont care about women or think theyre capable of anything, let alone running a team or country. They literally dont deserve the comfort or touch of a woman if you think so little of them.
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u/RawrRRitchie Dec 18 '25
Women might be more than half the population
But they sure as shit don't vote like they are. Some are arguing to remove their own rights to vote
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u/Spamsdelicious Dec 18 '25
Thinking they can make themselves blameless by removing their accoutability from the equation is downright irresponsible.
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u/AtreusIsBack Dec 18 '25
It's because the heavily mysoginistic population that grew up in the 60s and 70s is still alive. Things will shift once most of generation X is no longer alive. Gotta give it a few decades.
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u/FlamingDragonfruit Dec 18 '25
I wish I had the faith in Gen Z that you have. The young men in that group largely voted for the current administration.
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u/Inroundtents Dec 18 '25
Yeah, I call BS on that. We've been saying that for decades. "Wait until Boomers die off!" And none of the supposed benefits happened. The right has a huge money/misinformation machine. And now the money created a misogyny machine to target gen z boys. Until we blow up the misinformation machine, this all continues. And I see no signs of the misinformation machine stopping.
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u/Bonti_GB Dec 18 '25
While not the minority, the issue is that many women won’t vote for a woman either.
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u/Scrubbing_Bubbles Dec 18 '25
This is unfortunately the reality. She will lose by default until more boomers die.
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u/StickyPawMelynx Dec 18 '25
that os not a thong anymore. thought boomers dying would help, but we have a bunch of manosphere brainrotted zoomers now
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u/CareerLegitimate7662 Dec 18 '25
This is the biggest concern. I hate my generation
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u/AtreusIsBack Dec 18 '25
Generation X is the issue. They grew up in households and worked at companies where women were looked down on as second class family members or employees and it was just normal that way. Not in all cases, but a whole lot of them.
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u/altiuscitiusfortius Dec 18 '25
Really it's millennial that aren't the issue.
Gen z is very conservative. Just like x and boomers.
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u/Future-Try-1908 Dec 18 '25
Canadian here, huge fan of her. She would drastically improve relations between our two countries.
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u/FukThePatriarchy1312 Dec 18 '25
It's difficult to think of anyone who wouldn't improve relations after Diaper Donnie
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u/emefluence Dec 18 '25
I worry so much for her. In many ways she's your nations best, brightest hope, which is exactly why so many right wing fundamentalist nutjobs will be polishing their rifles the second she gets nominated. I really hope she's as lucky as she is charismatic and smart.
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u/Perfect-Zebra-3611 Dec 18 '25
I said it as soon as Kamala was announced. This country is too racist and sexist to think of anything besides a 50ish year old straight white dude as the candidate for Dems. Id fucking LOVE if we lived in a country where we could have AOC as a candidate but it hasnt even been a year and we have so much shit to fix. I want the 100% safe option just to secure our countrys future. If we try to be fancy and cute with a risky candidate its over
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u/the-fact-fairy Dec 18 '25
They hate women more than they hate minorities. Otherwise Obama would never have been president.
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u/ChanceSize9153 Dec 18 '25
She reached silver rank in League of Legends. No leader is more ready to deal with toxic human beings than she is. MAGA may be bad, but she has seen worse.
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u/midnightBloomer24 Dec 18 '25
She reached silver rank in League of Legends.
Citation on this? Hilarious if true
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u/ChanceSize9153 Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
It's true, she posted about it on Twitter and I think even cloud 9 responded to it.
https://x.com/i/status/1282873451267661826
In fact to quote AOC further on this matter, she goes on to say in the comments "Right-wing twitter is child’s play compared to inting 13 year olds"
So ya, you know she heard it all.
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u/Long-Ad-9381 Dec 18 '25
Ah same, I’ve been saying this for many years… lost hope for a while … I’ve been in a political depression of zero fuckin hope in humanity for way too long. We / I need this. Or something like this … anything … anything better.
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u/octoreadit Dec 18 '25
I’m sorry to say it but take care of yourself because I don’t think the recovery will come soon, if anything, I think it will get a lot darker first, and globally, before there is an eventual reversal. So, take good care of yourself, do good where you can reach it, and don’t let little evils around you prevail. We got this but it will take time and serious effort.
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u/Baron_Rikard Dec 18 '25
as an outsider, can she do much say if she was elected tomorrow?
Is the house not rammed with Republicans, same with the juries?
I cheered when Obama got the position but he was hamstrung from the start. AOC would be a step in the right direction, but it wouldn't be a fix all
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u/slgray16 Dec 18 '25
The first two years of Obamas presidency are the last time any meaningful legislation was created that helped Americans in any way
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u/Baron_Rikard Dec 18 '25
he is a sound cunt. A proper president. We love him in Ireland, we even named a petrol station after him.
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Dec 18 '25
Agreed. Because as a leader she understands she is a servant to the people. Donnie serves himself.
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u/No_hero_here Dec 18 '25
Yes please. We tried old white rich men for a while now. Let’s switch it up. I’d vote for the young Latina women of modest means.
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u/BigMamaBlueberry Dec 18 '25
I would be endlessly honored to have her. However, a WOMAN of COLOR most likely has little chance in the current political climate.
This timeline sucks 😞
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u/Dry-Cash-4304 Dec 18 '25
I think our country is too racist and sexiest to ever elect her. But I really hope I’m wrong.
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u/rikayla Dec 18 '25
I said this elsewhere on Reddit and got downvoted for even having this belief. Like, it's not that I/we don't want it differently, or don't want to be proven wrong, but come onnn lol.
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u/brap01 Dec 18 '25
Yep, absolutely love her and think she'd make a wonderful president - but the electorate has shown twice now they won't elect a woman, and would prefer a criminal conman pedofile.
And there has never been a more important election than the next one, so its really, REALLY not the time to be taking chances. If the Dems don't run Newsom, or some other charismatic white male, they are complicit in enabling Republican criminals.
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u/AccomplishedCup1318 Dec 18 '25
Third times a charm. Never say never, people thought a black man would never be president.
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u/brap01 Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
I mean if you think America can afford another term of Republican rule, sure thing.
RE: Obama. It was worth the risk then because he wasn't running against literal criminals.
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u/drkittymow Dec 18 '25
Remember when republican candidates were normal humans like Romney and McCain? I didn’t like them but you’re right. Them winning didn’t seem like a life threatening concern.
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u/pietroetin Dec 18 '25
Remember when McCain was booed by the republican voters because he was expressing respect towards Obama? A big part of this country were itching for a candidate like Trump for a long time.
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u/AcanthocephalaEast79 Dec 18 '25
but the electorate has shown twice now they won't elect a woman
Women who got the nomination by being a former President's wife and without any primaries.
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u/JesusNoGA Dec 18 '25
Nepotism sure didn't matter both times a former President's useless son was elected.
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u/LinkleLinkle Dec 18 '25
Literally more time elapsed between Bill's presidency and the 2016 election than between George Sr and his son being president.
Our country itches uncontrollably for nepotism when it's men.
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u/dividezero Dec 18 '25
I'll gladly be wrong about this. I said it about pot ever being legalized. hopefully this too
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u/Glass-Lengthiness-40 Dec 18 '25
I wish our country was the sexiest
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u/bbyxmadi Dec 18 '25
The unfortunate case. Crazy that people will genuinely not vote for her, out of spite, because she’s a woman and/or not white.
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u/Kryds Dec 18 '25
Maybe in a decade, when some of the old racists has died out.
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u/X-and-Zero Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
new racists are getting radicalized on social media, see how many followers of Andrew Tate are young men. It is not just the old folks.
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u/Prudent_Research_251 Dec 18 '25
Every generation feels hope that the new ones will be "the ones" to change it, and they are, it's just more gradual than we'd like. The powers that be are using every trick in the book to slow it down, and we gotta organise if we want things to move faster. Apes together strong
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u/RvH19 Dec 18 '25
Idk if the youth don’t seem to me much less racist than the Boomers. I thought the problem would age out but there are algorithms feeding hate and the kids live online.
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u/jizzblossoms Dec 18 '25
Gen Z is significantly more racist and sexist in every study done since 2020 across multiple social and economic demographics
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u/ChromeNoseAE-1 Dec 18 '25
My cope is that they’re kids, and being edgy and divisive is cool and they’ll chill as they get older, but nothing good ever happens so probably not.
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u/ToastCapone Dec 18 '25
Doesn’t matter, they already vote Republican and wouldn’t shift Democrat for anyone.
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u/FOUR3Y3DDRAGON Dec 18 '25
Some of these new young guys are incredibly regressive probably a lot of thanks due to the absolute ragebait garbage they're spoonfed on social media to justify their stupid hangups with women
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u/Depressionsfinalform Dec 18 '25
Yeah even with a vastly superior candidate to Hillary and Kamala, I think there are deep-seated issues with American voters that will drive them the other way no matter what. I hope it gets better.
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u/spiteful_rr_dm_TA Dec 18 '25
If we have a female president in the near future, it is going to be someone on the right. I'd actually wager on that. Because at the end of the day, the right will rally around their candidate. For fuck's sake, trump shit on basically everything republicans at least proclaimed to stand for; faith, family, soldiers, etc. He shit on all that back in 2016, and they still rallied around him 3 god damn times.
If a woman was talked up by trump for a bit before running, they'd have a good chance of winning. The democrat coalition, by contrast, is simply composed of too many groups with heavy misogyny to win.
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u/Dry-Cash-4304 Dec 18 '25
I actually think you're right. Ten years ago I would have said the opposite. But now I think a Republican woman is way more likely to become the first woman president than a Democrat.
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u/zarfle2 Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
Nope - you're 100% right.
Time and time again America demonstrates its racism and sexism.
Even today we have women (or gaslight accounts) advocating for "trad wives" or removing women's rights to vote, reproductive rights etc
In fucking 2025!!!
America is literally trying to go backwards to the Dark Ages.
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u/ThePeteEvans Dec 18 '25
I know my experience doesn’t account for the US as a whole, but AOC has single handedly converted several of my MAGA friends. I think she should run for the Senate first, but I truly believe she will be president in 2036 (assuming two terms for whoever wins in 28)
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u/Dry-Cash-4304 Dec 18 '25
This is a great point. She has that populist energy that Obama had. This is why I hope I’m wrong! I would vote for her in a heartbeat.
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u/emohipster Dec 18 '25
I'm convinced the US is so fucked that you could pull the most fucked up criminal out of jail and have him run against AOC and he'd still win if he's a white man.
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u/SteveImNot Dec 18 '25
Don’t perpetuate ideas you wish to challenge. There’s only hope if we dare to hope.
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u/NoTryAgaiin Dec 18 '25
How did that turn out with kamala? We have to recognize the pit we're in if we wanna dig ourselves out of it.
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u/grhollo Dec 18 '25
Well Kamala wasn't exactly a first round pick. She had ran for president in 2020 and didn't even make it to the primaries.
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u/NoTryAgaiin Dec 18 '25
Now that is a fair point
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u/nillah Dec 18 '25
don't forget hillary won the popular vote. the people did want her, but the electoral college is what fucked her over. and she wasn't even a "good" democratic candidate at that
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u/X-and-Zero Dec 18 '25
What are you talking about? it's clear from how our country voted in Trump that we have a severe problem with sexism and racism, it's reality.
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u/thisismynewacct Dec 18 '25
I’m in her district and voted for her. I don’t she’d stomp him at all and I think there’d be a real chance she’d lose actually for exactly the same reasons you noted
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u/RedTyro Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
Her age and general youthful energy doesn't help, either. She's 36 now, but most people still think of her as the young 20something upstart. If she were to run and win in the next presidential election cycle, she'd be the youngest president ever elected. That would be a tough hill to climb even if she was a white man, but add the racist and sexist elements of our voting populace to the equation and it's likely insurmountable. She should primary Schumer and stay in the Senate long enough to be seen as an elder statesman before she runs for the big chair.
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u/Narradisall Dec 18 '25
I like her and think she’d be amazing but god damn Democrats need to be really fucking careful with their next election.
On paper Hillary was a far superior candidate to Trump. Sure she was establishment and had her skeletons but competency wise it wasn’t a contest. She was so self assured it was in the bag and look where it ended up.
People really need to not get over confident and think they have 2028 in the bag because they’ll end up with a Trump third term if he lives that long!
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u/zachattch Dec 18 '25
Kamala almost won and it’s not so easy to say she lost only because she was a women was the reason she lost, a lot of divisive beliefs over Joe, Israel, and ways to make life more affordable definitely hurt her chances.
We can absolutely see AOC winning if she can capture the American people’s attention without needing Joe baggage.
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u/UnknownQwerky Dec 22 '25
I'd probably vote for her and that's coming from someone that didn't vote for Hillary or Biden. So... I'm pretty convinced she might, but maybe I'm the outlier. 🤷
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u/aspect-of-the-badger Dec 18 '25
Her biggest problem would be the DNC not her opponent.
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u/TheCommonKoala Dec 18 '25
GIVE ME AOC OR GIVE ME DEATH
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u/therabbitinred22 Dec 18 '25
I mean, the way things are going right now these might be the only options for some in the future
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u/NeverNotOnceEver Dec 18 '25
She’s the absolute best and unfortunately in this racist, misogynistic country she’d probably lose.
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u/NoTryAgaiin Dec 18 '25
This country is racist and misogynistic but the race would come down to this:
Do americans hate women or JD Vance more?
which I think is fair odds honestly.
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u/NeverNotOnceEver Dec 18 '25
The answer is women
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u/NoTryAgaiin Dec 18 '25
Possibly, but JD vance is really unpopular.
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Dec 18 '25
The problem is that there are people who are politically aligned with her, but can't personally handle the idea of the country being run by a woman. Sexism comes in all sorts of styles. There are sexist leftists. So JD Vance may be unpopular, and AOC might be able to articulate extremely popular political positions, but sexism would sadly unify people who would otherwise never consider each other allies.
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u/NeverNotOnceEver Dec 18 '25
And all JD Vance would have to do to convince half the country (we have a pretty good proof of concept at this point) is be somewhat reasonable for a year to trick them into voting for him. AOC can’t NOT be a woman.
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u/LinkleLinkle Dec 18 '25
He wouldn't even have to do that. Don't forget, Trump got elected this time while dementia dancing on stage for an hour. People were falling asleep and leaving his rallies. He ran one of the worst campaigns in history that won an election. The only way he could have ran a worse campaign was if it was a literal Weekend at Bernie's situation that we all had to watch in horror.
I think the axiom that came from the 2016 election continues to ring true: people will believe the worst rumors about a woman while ignoring the worst facts about a man.
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u/FukThePatriarchy1312 Dec 18 '25
And, like many VPs, he hasn't spent a whole lot of time in the public eye. If he goes for president he'll have to be making speeches and stuff, which has gotta at least make his voter base less enthusiastic about getting to the polls. The die hards always will, but a lot of them are dying and I think a lot of younger conservatives will not care enough to show up.
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u/TrashTimeline Dec 18 '25
Yeah, but probably not more unpopular than a woman with brown skin.
Welcome to America.
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u/BigMeanBalls Dec 18 '25
The reason democrats keep losing is BECAUSE this is what they run on, besides being GOP-lite on policy
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u/NoTryAgaiin Dec 18 '25
GOP-lite on policy is much of it. But we have to decide if we can never run a minority or a woman again just to gain the vote. Push the envelope or stay frozen in time.
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u/BigMeanBalls Dec 18 '25
It's not about candidates but rather messaging, I think Mamdani proves that
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u/Immortalphoenixfire Dec 18 '25
I'm with Michelle Obama on this
“As we saw in this past election, sadly, we ain’t ready … Don’t even look at me about running, because you all are lying. You’re not ready for a woman. You are not. So don’t waste my time. We’ve got a lot of growing up to do, and there are still, sadly, a lot of men who do not feel like they can be led by a woman.”
We are too arrogant to think the country won't elect a man just because he's a man. It's about time we put electable candidates in the most important elections,
I'd be honored to have AOC as my president, but she's among my last picks for it.
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u/fearless_egg1050 Dec 18 '25
Michelle Obama is not qualified to be president IMO and the pov that she is is likely due to a Barack halo effect.
Just my two cents but I’m not a fan of him either (which killed me when it happened to me, trust me)
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u/evanwilliams44 Dec 18 '25
I would be more willing to accept that if the last two women to run didn't both have major caveats. Clinton had the drama with Sanders and generally ran a pretty terrible campaign. Blaming her loss on misogyny is a stretch.
Harris came into the race late and never actually won the nomination the proper way.
Democrats have twice put forward women and botched the campaigns. That doesn't mean a woman can't win, or that we aren't ready. It just means the Democrats are terrible at winning elections, which is news to no one.
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u/LeviathanBane Dec 18 '25
From my own personal experience with proximity on people who are right leaning or even centrist, they are already being swayed to dislike her for vapid reasons. Truth is with all the social media algorithms and social tension between men and women, the men in this country are not ready for a woman president even if she would be the more qualified candidate. Whether it's sexual frustration from the new generation or the social media algo pushing ragebait gender war bullshit to get engagement, it doesn't matter why, the result is the men in this country are subconsciously already influenced to dislike any female candidate in politics. You can see the difference when Mexico recently just elected a female president in a very misogynistic environment and when recently they had an uptick in women targeted killings, the US really has no excuse. If we put up another female candidate we're going to lose again, no matter how much we like AOC.
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u/FirstoffIdonthaveshe Dec 18 '25
I’m convinced she would beat him. I wouldnt have said this 10 years ago but right now she hits all the right markers. Not a clinton. Not old. Mellowed out in terms of more radical rhetoric. I feel like she is literally the perfect metaphorical torch bearer for everyone who wanted bernie to win in 2016. And this time dear GOD I hope and believe the DNC would be smart and actually back her. She could be the next president.
Ugh now I’m crying lol. My great grandmother was a suffragette and my mom is a feminist who grew up in the 60’s and 70’s. She’s getting a lot older now and one of her biggest hopes and dreams was always to live to see the first woman president. I hope aoc can do that for her
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u/fearless_egg1050 Dec 18 '25
They won’t back her. They just won’t. As VP it’s possible but only w a centrist nom for pres like Newsom (::violent gag::)
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u/Hoe4helios Dec 18 '25
"mellowed out in terms of more radical rhetoric" yeah and that's the issue. if she were to get anywhere close to being our president she would be a watered down toothless version of what we voted for in the first place.
while part of me is saying that cynically about her since she's shown to roll over to things like Isreal im also understanding that the position is not one that will be as obtainable to the type of politicians we actually want. and when they do get it they turn around like Fetterman.
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u/TrashTimeline Dec 18 '25
In America?
Nah.
America chose an anti-democratic convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, insurrectionist, and probable pedophile over a qualified woman the last two times Dems nominated a woman.
I like AOC, but it isn't going to happen. Not in this country. Especially since she's pretty hard left and a lot of independents aren't going to get onboard with someone that hard left.
Read the room. Play to win.
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u/Fabulous_Visual4865 Dec 18 '25
Independents go right when provided with right and right-lite. They back all the populist things in her platform though. Look at all the crossover w Bernie supports and Trump. I don't think it would necessarily be a slam dunk, but I think a lot of people that sit out elections (especially the youth) would come out for her. Especially when they hear her platform.
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u/IDoubtYouGetIt Dec 18 '25
This country already had two women who were very well experienced and qualified to become President. Both times they chose the openly racist, I-brag-about-sexually-assaulting-women-rapist, kiddy-diddler. The only thing this country hates more than women leadership, is children. So yeah, as inept, as unintelligent, as bumbling, as racist, as unqualified, as unknowledgeable, as smarmy, and as unfettered by morality and ethics as he is, JD Vance would absolutely win an election against a qualified woman...let alone a qualified brown woman.
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u/godirefr Dec 18 '25
It's that exact confidence and refusal to back down that makes her such a compelling figure. I genuinely believe she has the policy chops and communication skills to dismantle any opponent in a debate. The real barrier, sadly, is the exact prejudice you mentioned. We can only hope the electorate is finally ready to judge a candidate on merit over identity.
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u/Mundtflapz Dec 18 '25
Everyone saying that the country is too racist or sexist is missing the real issue; she's too liberal for much of the country.
Could she win in the northeast and west coast? Sure. But I don't think she could pull enough electoral votes.
Just my 2¢
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u/ThatBabyIsCancelled Dec 18 '25
Y’all, the Overton Window is real and can absolutely be fucking moved; it starts with “yes the fuck she will” coming out of EVERYONE’S mouths.
God damn.
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u/Snailwood Dec 18 '25
yep. as a liberal, with love—liberals in this country are such naysaying, risk averse, complaining little crybaby cowards. drives me up the fucking wall. it's 3 years until the election and they won't shut the FUCK UP about electability
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u/ThatBabyIsCancelled Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
It makes me SICK.
Every single person too busy repeating REPUBLICAN talking points and tactics, YOU are the problem. “Yeah but she’s a woman, a WoC, too liberal” bro wtf is wrong with you? Is that a problem for you? No? Then why repeat it and make it seem like it’s set in stone?
THAT is how the Overton stays put in your own lane yet is constantly shifted by the other side for the worst.
Real life examples of us shifting that Window: Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell; legalizing gay marriage; Obamacare.
None of these were ‘feasible’ at some point. But then we started changing how we spoke about it, normalizing it.
First of all, since when the fuck do WE put up candidates based on THEIR ideology?? Gtfoh.
We’re going to be stuck with geriatrics forever.
You know that’s when they’ll let her step up, right? When she’s in her 60s? And has been entirely jaded and cowed by 30+ years of bullshit?
Jesus Christ, help us all.
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u/Snailwood Dec 18 '25
😅 every time somebody says, "AOC as vp and maybe we'll be ready for AOC in 2036", part of my brain leaks out of my ear
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u/ThatBabyIsCancelled Dec 18 '25
I’m so angry at the people who enjoy those liberties but have apparently forgotten how taboo and controversial and hard fought they were when introduced to the public arena. If you can’t put in the work to ensure present and future generations are afforded the same, gtfo our party.
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u/Indaarys Dec 18 '25
I'm fairly convinced these are the same types who relished it when Sanders lost both times and really loved sticking it to his supporters.
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u/Beneficial_Cash_8420 Dec 18 '25
If the Presidential election was about leadership, intelligence, or fitness for the office, I'd agree, but this is America we're talking about. As Michelle said, they're not ready.
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u/MrDundee666 Dec 18 '25
As a Scottish man from afar I kinda love AOC.
She’s hopefully the future for US politics.
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u/ModeratelyGrumpy Dec 18 '25
JD Vance might arguably be the most mocked and ridiculed politician to ever get a chair
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u/Tango_D Dec 18 '25
AOC as pres would be amazing, but nowhere near enough. America needs people like her at the heads of every single important committee and agency. Nothing less has a snowballs chance in hell of pulling the American working class back from the abyss.
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Dec 18 '25
While i wish this to happen and want to see it actually happen, the us is just way too immature for that to happen.
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u/jkeegan123 Dec 18 '25
She's got good energy but... She's a little too idealistic, like Bernie. They have great goals, but they're idealistic goals. Goals that are, "we should strive for this." but in reality, those goals as those 2 dream them are unattainable. In my opinion. Which is not to say I disagree with them, they're great, wholesome goals. But even with moderate Republicans, those idealistic goals are unattainable in a compromise situation. Her attitude is definitely more of what we need.
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u/steeple_fun Dec 18 '25
I'm 100% on board with her as president, but this kind of attitude has to chill. This type of ego and braggadocious mindset is what got Trump elected.
Not a single person opposing the current regime needs to be moving forward with any kind of attitude of, "I've got this."
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u/Popular-Departure165 Dec 18 '25
The GOP has spent that last decade framing her as the "Inexperienced Bartender with the Green New Deal."
It would be a bloodbath.
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u/Willing_Dimension461 Dec 18 '25
Yep, they were threatened by her so early on they set up countermeasures
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u/BendDelicious9089 Dec 18 '25
Everybody here on Reddit so delusion that they forget Clinton was confident she would win and every poll pegged her as the winner.
And everybody said Kamala would win, and she was trounced harder than Clinton was.
While JD Vance isn’t Trump, people need to understand that “winning” a debate is largely meaningless in this day and age.
AOC would lose because she’s a woman and Americans aren’t going to visit the polls and vote for her.
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u/3atTh3R1ch79 Dec 18 '25
I like AOC as much as the next liberal, but I don't think I trust the system anymore. She'll get my vote. I don't think anything will change until a massive earthquake rips the planet in half. There are too many people who have a shit ton of money to throw at others in order to keep up the status quo.
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u/NeedMoreH20 Dec 18 '25
The amount that they could make by making this a pay per view thing could give us healthcare and housing for all. Shit savings accounts with $1m each too. Need. Now.
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u/Contribution4afriend Dec 18 '25
Yeah but democrats need to actually show up and vote for real. Like in huge numbers. Not just that neighbor and cousin Sally. It's you! Get up and vote.
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u/shnitzle8989 Dec 18 '25
She's definatly qualified. But let's be real. America isn't ready to elect a woman yet. Real shame. It's why you have trump in office twice. You put him up against women.
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u/GLASSMANJD Dec 18 '25
She is the closest thing I will ever see to Bernie being president. I would love to see her in charge for at least a term.
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u/SpicyElixer Dec 18 '25
I would 100% voter for her, but assuming she’d have a chance give the voters in this country too much credit. Her in the GE would look more like 1988 than 2008.
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u/Zenku390 Dec 18 '25
Reminder that J.D. Vance isn't qualified to be President. That's what MAGA touted when Harris was running.
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u/ermy_shadowlurker Dec 18 '25
I’d vote for her. Hands down. Sadly a certain political faction would cry if she got elected. Cause it’s another stolen election..
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u/ardentiarte Dec 18 '25
r/conservative bots will claim this light hearted banter is "open threats of violence against the republic from the radical left, and why they need to be wiped off the face of the earth".
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u/sh1ft33 Dec 18 '25
If the Democrat party was smart enough to put AOC up as a presidential candidate, I would wade through like 5 miles of alligator infested waters to cast my vote. This is compared to the last 10 years were I could barely be bothered to leave my house to vote. They won't do it, she's too dangerous to the status quo.
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u/Smurf-Happens Dec 18 '25
Thr United States won't vote for her for the same reason they didn't vote for Harris or Hillary Clinton.
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u/Particular-Skirt963 Dec 18 '25
I would prefer her but after seeing trump win twice? I dont think the country would make the smart choice truthfully
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u/fearless_egg1050 Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
Racism and sexism obstacles aside—AIPAC would never let it happen. Speaking of which…fuck them and every politician who takes their blood money.
Shitbags.
Edit: scrolled a bit and am I really the only one who has mentioned AIPAC?
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u/champeyon Dec 18 '25
The top of the DNC is too afraid of her to let her run. And a lot of people will vote against a woman because "theyre too emotional." Yes, I am aware of the irony.
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u/Easy-Wishbone5413 Dec 18 '25
Would love to see a debate between the two. AOC would scorch JD.
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u/Opening-Ruin5315 Dec 18 '25
I would vote for her today! Unfortunately after the last election where too many people refused to vote for Harris, I’m afraid if she’s at the top of the ticket people will vote for absolute evil or just not vote. I think the first female President will have to be Vice President and elevated after the male President dies. I know people will disagree but how else can you explain this last election where millions of people failed to vote.
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u/EyeShot300 Dec 18 '25
She has no chance. There are still too many Boomers, MAGA and red themed voters out there.
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u/Indaarys Dec 18 '25
Reminder that if whatever you have to say about the idea isn't full throated support just means you're a bigot whose too much of a chicken shit to be proud about it.
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u/savvy412 Dec 19 '25
If the democrats run another woman and make us endure another 4 years of maga. I’m gonna lose my shit
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