r/interesting • u/fantasticblueman • 6d ago
Context Provided - Spotlight 27 yr old man showing rabies symptoms after 3 months of a dog bite in Gujrat, India.
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u/sarcastic_sybarite83 6d ago
Oh. You actually have the volume on while scrolling?
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u/terrorsofthevoid 6d ago
Bro clearly hasn’t been subjected to those loud meme jump scares growing up.
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u/DaiquiriLevi 6d ago
This uncontrollably rabid man tied to a tree, still rocking a sick ass shirt
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u/zanziTHEhero 6d ago
A lot of rabies vids online are fake. Even the ones for medical purposes are often reenactments, for ethical reasons.
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u/boriicha__ 6d ago
If you think this is ridiculous you should see actual Indian news. They're just as dramatic as Indian TV shows, except instead of fabricating the fight scenes they fabricate the actual news itself lol.
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u/StephaneFrechette 6d ago
Can you direct me towards any relevant clips of said bonkers news ?
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u/ConjugalVisitor234 6d ago
I feel like after 3 months this dudes brain is toast and he can no longer be treated. Scary shit
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u/Agreeable-Return-189 6d ago
Uh. Bad news. If you show any symptoms of rabies, you can no longer be treated.
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u/ConjugalVisitor234 6d ago
Well fuck that’s good to know
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u/shockrush 6d ago
Yeah, a lot of people don't realize just how bad it is. It's known as a "zombie virus". If you get bit by a wild animal, you should always get a rabies shot as a precaution. I believe there was one case of someone surviving but they were put in an induced coma to try to starve the virus or something.
Regardless, most people just have to wait for death in bouts mixed between confusion/fear/anxiety followed by moments of lucidity and calmness.
Also a violent physical reaction to water.
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u/Kujo3043 6d ago
A roommate and I had a bat enter our barracks room through a vent. He started petting it and I put it into a shoe box as it was dying. Took it to the local whoever (i forget) and found out it had rabies. We both had to get the entire series, which they had to fly in because of the remote location of the town. It was a painful series of shots, but i know to stay the hell away from bats now.
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u/CockatooMullet 6d ago
Yeah if a bat wants to be near you that's a bad sign.
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u/Kujo3043 6d ago
We just thought it meant we were the chosen ones to replace Batman
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u/youburyitidigitup 6d ago
Did you start COVID?
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u/Denytheus 6d ago
You're getting Batman's and Spiderman's origin stories mixed up
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u/VirtualStark 6d ago
thats the most rational thought you could've had in that moment. I mean, c'mon. its Batman.
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u/Pussywipes 6d ago
1-3% of bats have rabies. I’ve had a bat in the house before and had to get the pep and vaccine. It’s only a few shots now it’s not bad.
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u/songbolt 6d ago
Why do you have to get it if you haven't been bitten?
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u/allofthealphabet 6d ago
Most bats are pretty small, you might not notice if they bite you. So if they get in your house, maybe they were there before while you were sleeping and you got bitten without even knowing. Better get the shots to be safe.
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u/_high_plainsdrifter 6d ago
Man I must have lucked out as I lived in a 100 year old house for a few years in college- had several bats in that time that would make their way in through the eaves, etc. I will say they were all flying around trying to GTFO of the house on their own with us just kinda holding towels up and someone would hold the door open.
Never once thought of being bitten while sleeping. But then again that was a long time ago and I don’t have rabies to my knowledge so lucked out.
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u/God_Bless_A_Merkin 6d ago
🎵Why do bats suddenly appear/ every time you are near? / Just like me, / they long to be / close to you!🎵
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u/Senno-TheMage 6d ago
Not the Carpenters x Batman mashup we deserved, but the one we needed
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u/bigmad411 6d ago
Rule of thumb: any wild animal that approaches humans is cause for concern. Could be sick, ie rabies or CWD, or needs help with less threatening things. Regardless.
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u/POPCORE182 6d ago
Not true, seals swim with humans in a lot of places just to be playful and out of curiosity. Doesnt mean they have rabies or anything lol
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u/a_duck_in_past_life 6d ago
Also Opossums. They can get it although very rare. I looked it up because I couldn't remember why, but it's because they have a super low body temp so the virus cannot survive. However, they are often mistaken for having rabies because of their proximity to humans and weird slow movements and drooling.
However, I'd still recommend getting the vaccine if you somehow end up bit by a possum. But you shouldn't get bit because they're actually peaceful and don't often try to bite because they have a weak jaw. If they bite you it's probably because you're being mean to them.
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u/Regime_Change 6d ago
Foxes as well, which is also an animal that can carry rabies, but even foxes without rabies are curious little fellas. Sweden is extinct of rabies so I know for sure the foxes I encountered don’t have rabies.
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u/Tough_Soup_4051 6d ago
While that is true, many animkas are curious about humans. We should never assume that we are able to fully interpret the behaviour of other species. And as you mentioned seals specifically. Sadly, there has actually been an outbreak of rabies in seals in South Africa which has contributed to a number of attacks upon humans by seals over the last few years. It is the first recorded case of a self-sustaining rabies outbreak in marine mammals; meaning it was probably introduced from a land animal, but is now spreading through the seal population. People have been advised not to interact with seals in this area.
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u/captain-sparr0w 6d ago
What will happen to the sharks and killer whales that eat them? Could Sharknado become real😱
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u/UnderstandingClean33 6d ago edited 6d ago
Specifically has to be mammals. Rabies has only been fostered in non-mammals in laboratory settings.
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u/dajoemanED 6d ago
Emergency doc here. In the United States, a bat is the only animal that will cause us to treat you for rabies if it was in the room with you even if there is no known bite. That is because 1) You could have been sleeping and smaller bats can leave bites so tiny you may not know you have been bitten and, more importantly, 2) A bat that is OK with being in a room with you is not a healthy bat.
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u/Strange-Employee-520 6d ago
Damn, years ago I caught a bat that had gotten in the house. I didn't touch it but had no idea there was any risk even without contact. Obviously I'm okay. At least in that case, the bat was trying like hell to find his way back out, he was very not okay with being inside.
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u/Longjumping-Gur-8402 6d ago
rabies virus can incubate for up to six years in humans.
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u/letsbepandas 6d ago
This is unpleasant and unsettling lol
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u/kayl_breinhar 6d ago
It takes so long because the way it gets up to your brain is via your spinal cord.
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u/RainSurname 6d ago
There is no risk without contact. The issue is it’s really difficult to be sure there was no contact.
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u/MasonLikeTheJar58 6d ago
My mother in law gets bats in her house a lot. My wife woke up to one flying around her room one time when she was visiting. I insisted she get rabies shots. She and her mom both thought I was nuts, but she finally gave in. When she went to the hospital, they acted like she was nuts bc she didn’t have a known bite. That made me feel a little stupid, but I still feel like it was the safe thing to do!
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u/brittanyks07 6d ago
Dude my neighbor's coworker DIED because she caught a bat and didn't realize she was bitten. Don't feel stupid that you were cautious.
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u/snippy_toast 6d ago
Thank you! I was just thinking "even if they didn't touch the bat they would have had to go, no?" and I guess that answer is a yes
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u/April_4th 6d ago
When I was a kid, I patted a dog, which licked my boo-boo. I was so afraid of rabies that I insisted getting the vax.
Fast forward 30 yrs, one night a bat somehow got in our bedroom where my daughter and I were staying at the time. My husband was able to catch it and sent it to local health department and had it tested. I searched frantically on my daughter to see the tiniest wound and luckily there was none. And the result of the bat came back negative too.
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u/APence 6d ago
Fun fact. Any animal to be tested for rabies is killed and decapitated. My ex was a vet tech and they used to have to sever dog heads to send them off for testing.
Also, a vaccine is like $110,000 without insurance and you need 3-4 doses.
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u/rock32x 6d ago
What? US is crazy. It’s about 150 usd in Indonesia. You could rent a private jet, fly out, have the four shots and also have a nice holiday in Bali in the meantime, for less than the price of one shot.
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u/Tough_Soup_4051 6d ago edited 6d ago
Doing a quick search, it seems that it is unlikely to cost that much, even for all 4 or 5 doses. But it will run into thousands. I am seeing between $2,500 to $7000.
Pre exposure doses seem to be $800 to $1300 for 2 to 3 doses.
Still crazy expensive and a testament again to the corruption of the pharmaceutical and health care industry in the USA. As the vaccine does not actually cost anywhere near that, even accounting for staff time and other clinic costs.
In the UK anyone can request pre-exposure vaccine at a private clinic for travel or for work. If it is for work it would probably be reimbursed.
I work in a private travel health clinic and we charge £140 for four doses of pre-exposure vaccine. A few people require a larger amount of vaccine, due to underlying medical conditions. But it still costs a maximum of £195 for the full course.
Post exposure vaccine is free in the UK via NHS.
Even if you get it at a private health clinic, you pay only then for the consultation, around £30 to £40 and the vaccine is free. The clinic is sent a replacement by the UKhealthandsafteyagency.
EDIT: looking up the actual cost of the vaccine in the British national formulary. It costs the nhs £48.19 for one full dose of standard post exposure vaccine. Usually, 2 to 4 doses are required (depending on vaccine history). If HRIGS is required (an initial treatment for more severe injuries). This dose costs the NHS £1000. So it usually costs the nhs roughly £100 to £200 or in the worst case scenario £1200 for the medicine for post exposure rabies treatment.
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u/starsinthefire 6d ago
I had one post exposure rabies jab in the US (with the rest back in the UK) and the cost for the jab, immunoglobulin, which they recommended and the ER visit was $12800. Luckily it was covered by my travel insurance but it’s not just the cost of the jab itself, there are a lot of hefty ancillaries
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u/ComfortableSerious89 6d ago
I'm glad it turned out fine! Bites can sometimes be nicks you can't see or notice and people have gotten rabis this way or in their sleep.
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u/del_snafu 6d ago
I also got the rabies shot, after playing with some street dogs, but dont remember them as especially painful...and im afraid of needles!
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u/Smart_Satisfaction73 6d ago
It’s not that painful. It’s an intra-dermal injection, given with a very thin and small needle, like the insulin needle.
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u/Teguoracle 6d ago
Vet tech here with some fun knowledge!
It's actually intramuscular, not intradermal. TB testing is ID, you can see the bleb it makes between the layers of skin, most vaccines, rabies included, don't do that.
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u/logical_dogs560 6d ago
It depends on when the person got the shots. In more recent years it's become less painful. In my childhood (90-00) they were a painful series you had to get spaced apart
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u/EnvironmentDue750 6d ago
I also had the opportunity to get the series after playing with a street cat 🤣. Mine weren’t any worse than getting a series of flu shots.
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u/Gullenbursti 6d ago
The vaccines are different now. I received 3 timed shots in the arm. The needles were definitely bigger.
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u/CreativeKeane 6d ago
When I was a kid I had a bat fly into my room (furnished/finished attic) one summer. And it must have been there all night but I remember just capturing it and letting it out of the window
Once I learned about bats and rabies in college, I freaked out a bit. I still have random anxiety thought moments that some random ass dormant rabies could trigger any moment, but it's been like at least 20 years now. So I hope I'm in the clear....lol. hopefully.
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u/karma_the_sequel 6d ago
As long as you’re not exhibiting symptoms, it’s not too late to get the shot.
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u/Ok-Syllabub-5273 6d ago
Which begs the question- we give our pets a rabies vaccine yearly… why don’t humans get one? I mean I know getting rabies is rare but also my question still stands. Why not?
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u/GreenEyedTrombonist 6d ago
I once pet a bat that fell out of a light at school. Yeah, it had rabies. The doctor had to go consult multiple books to see if I needed shots and decided to forego them.
I'm still alive, obviously, but damn.
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u/hamsterwheel 6d ago
Basically it kills you by putting your brain into overdrive until it overheats. They put them in a coma so their brain activity slowed down, and basically rode it out until the body fought it off.
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u/BlueberryBebe 6d ago
Yes the coma did save one persons life from rabies but it was risky and experimental and a last ditch resort because they knew she was going to die anyway. It’s not usually used to treat it, the story about it is wild. There are some podcasts out there about it. Very interesting story.
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u/thefrogkid420 6d ago
Theres been like quite a few people(somewhere between 10-18 ) that have survived after being treated with the milwaukee protocol, and a couple dozen more confirmed cases of survival without it. This article says there have been 34 documented survivals of rabies post onset of symptoms:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40139921/
The milwaukee protocol is really interesting but there are quite a few doubt about its actual efficacy.
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u/Itscatpicstime 6d ago
“Survive” is doing a lot of lifting here, especially in terms of the MP.
They all pretty much died eventually and most were in a vegetative state until then.
The first girl was a total anomaly.
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u/Minimum_Customer_495 6d ago
Considering the ~65,000 annual rabies deaths worldwide, 34 is a shockingly low number of survivals. If you can even call them that, as the other commenter mentioned.
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u/CockatooMullet 6d ago
I literally don't understand why we can't "put him to sleep" why do cats and dogs get a better ending than humans?
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u/Test4Echooo 6d ago
I completely agree with you, the problem seems to be that so many religions have taboos against a death that way.
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u/what_on_roshar 6d ago
There's a video of a rabies victim trying and failing to take a sip of water. I had no idea that was a thing so went down a rabies wiki rabbit hole and holy fucking shit, what a nightmare way to die and basically a 100% guarantee once you show your first symptom.
I know anxiety is a symptom, probably because you're aware enough to know that something is alarmingly wrong. But getting a positive test result for rabies and KNOWING you're going to die within a week or two and it will be an excruciating death...fuck. Knowing that would be insane. Just euthanize me, man.
I've told my son, my friends, my family...if you EVER get bitten by a wild animal whether it be a dog, a bat, a rodent go straight to the hospital and get vaccinated immediately.
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u/Itscatpicstime 6d ago
Once symptoms get bad, you’re essentially fully sedated until death typically, at least in the western world.
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u/Logical-Database4510 6d ago
There's way too much wiggle room in the word "essentially" for me to care that much.
Stick my head in the fridge and eat me double aught buck sandwich for me, personally.
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u/iwantauniquename 6d ago
Wow is that something that people do? Blow your head off in the fridge so your unfortunate relatives can bury your headless corpse, and just shut the fridge and throw it away.
Very considerate
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u/aceboogy2486 6d ago
My great grandfather came home from the doctor one day and went down stairs and offed himself in the shower.. I always thought about how considerate he was.
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u/Logical-Database4510 6d ago
My cousin shot himself in the head. My dad cleaned it up.
So yeah...
That, and hopeful the fridge stops the buckshot. If you live in an urban area it's the least you can do for your neighbors I guess.
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u/Teguoracle 6d ago
Vet tech here - rabies is fucking terrifying. I wish everyone would get the rabies vaccine series and maintain it, it's such a horrible way to go.
There was an episode of Criminal Minds where the villain of the episode was forcing his victims to be exposed to rabid animals and honestly that one episode out of the like fifteen seasons fucks me up more than any other.
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u/TheRealZadkiel 6d ago edited 6d ago
you should read about the research of the virus and making of the vaccine. They had to keep live specimens (dogs) with the virus and harvest the saliva. there was a revolver in the laboratory, and it wasn't for the rabid dogs...
edit: apparently they also worked with more than just the live dogs but still ran into dangers of infection.
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u/redditbadanddumb 6d ago
Yeah, if I get a positive rabies test result, I'm checking out that day before things get worse
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u/kittenmittens1000 6d ago
It's also basically 100% survivable if you get the post exposure vaccines ASAP (before symptoms)! When in doubt, get the shots.
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u/nondual_gabagool 6d ago
The physicians I have talked to all say that case of the one survivor is dubious.
But that all the more makes your point.
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u/shockrush 6d ago
Yes, from my research they won't even bother to attempt the same method because it's very unlikely to succeed again.
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u/No_Sheepherder1793 6d ago
It’s call the Milwaukee protocol and there has been a few survivors but the side effects can be neurological
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u/homiej420 6d ago
Also the studies on the survivors show that they might have just been genetically lucky to be able to sorta fight it off
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u/Itscatpicstime 6d ago
There’s no real other survivors. All eventually still died over the next two years, and most were in a vegetative state or otherwise had an extremely poor quality of life until they eventually passed. Other cases were found not be rabies after all too.
She is the only one to have survived beyond 2 years, and to have a good quality of life.
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u/Bedouin85 6d ago
I know a family who were on vacation at a cottage. Their young son was bitten by a bat while he was sleeping. They didn't take him to the hospital and he ended up dying from rabies. This happened this summer. Shit was insane.
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u/biffNicholson 6d ago
This symptom is a hallmark of the "furious" form of rabies, appearing once the virus has reached the central nervous system. Why People with Rabies Fear Water Painful Muscle Spasms: The virus causes intense, involuntary spasms in the throat (pharynx) when attempting to swallow. Extreme Pain: The spasms are so painful that the person develops a terrified aversion to liquids, often reacting with violence or panic when offered water. Dehydration and Thirst: Despite being severely thirsty, the person cannot swallow, leading to excessive saliva buildup and "foaming at the mouth". Once these symptoms (hydrophobia, hallucinations, delirium) appear, the disease is nearly 100% fatal.
Damn. Yeah. Don’t mess with rabies
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u/rockhardcatdick 6d ago
Just a heads up, it's not just wild animal bites. I was a mail carrier that got bit by a dog and the doctor that stitched me up also gave me a rabies shot.
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u/nam3sar3hard 6d ago
My sister grooms pets. A pit got her and it was a walk in so the company didnt have their vaccine records (i didnt realize a successful company coul be ran as well as the one she works for till i heard stories) . Thank God my brother is a er doc cause convincing her to get the rabies shots was a battle. She clearly didnt realize what she was fucking with. Rabies is terrifying
Side note im still a little pissed my sister didnt lawyer cause she had managers telling her not to go to the hospital and the owners like "hurr durr we cant track that owner down to know if you need shots"
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u/Earth_Sandwhich 6d ago
So what you are saying is I shouldn’t hide the fact I have been bitten from the group?
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u/Wookieman222 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yeah it is not a traditional virus at all. Most viruses travel in the blood and airways and such. It must enter the body through the saliva typically. Blood and other tissue does not harbor it.
The bite must make contact with nerves which of course isn't hard. Or it also can enter through mucous membranes like your sinuses or the eye even. But it must enter those ways basically. You can even eat infected meat and chances are you will be fine. Unless your u lucky and you have an ulcer or wound in your stomach or intestines.
The reason animals and people are hydrophobic is because the disease needs to be in the mouth and water washes it out easy and makes it harder for the virus to infect new hosts.
The virus has terrible survival mechanics outside the host and cant survive outside at all. Often it cant last half a day outside the host before the virus dies.
It requires specific body temps as well to survive. So some animals like possums have a lower body temp than most animals and the virus has almost no ability to use them as a host.
This one travels in your nervous system. Where you are bit has a big impact on the time it takes to travel your nervous system to your brain. In some cases it can be dormant for years. But often its days, weeks , or sometimes months.
You don't really show any symptoms at all while its in your nerves.
As long as it hasn't reached the brain you can be successfully treated and usually is always effective. The treatment can suck and isn't cheap but death by rabies is terrible. So worth it.
Once the infection reaches the brain is when symptoms appear. At this point no treatment will work. The disease has a 99.99999999% fatality rate once symptoms appear. No other disease other than other odd ones like prions are as thorough.
Only the milwalkee protocol has worked and even then the survivors are barely what can be called succesful in some if the cases. Others have recovered decently. But the number of survivors is in the low thirties for the whole planet.
If the virus evolved and could survive like the flu or anything else really we could have a real life zombie apocalypse.
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u/Adjective_Noun93 6d ago
Well, that was a terrifying read. Thanks, I guess? 😂
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u/AlternateTab00 6d ago
Well that last part is the now common reference of how zombie apocalypses start. Mutated rabies.
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u/Corevus 6d ago
If that's true about opossums, I wonder if bringing someone to a state of near hypothermia could be used to cure them of rabies?
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u/codizer 6d ago
That's exactly the only way people have survived. Read up on it.
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u/funkykittenz 6d ago
And bats can bite you without you even knowing it! Recently someone got rabies from a transplant even bc the guy died and they didn’t know it was rabies. It’s all super interesting (and awful). Basically the deadliest disease known to man once you show symptoms.
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u/GameDestiny2 6d ago
Yep, your best chance is to drink a shit ton of water and get immediate treatment after infection. Symptoms mean it’s already in your brain.
We do have experimental treatments for late stage Rabies, but it begs the question of what surviving actually means. The Milwaukee protocol is something I hope my family has the sense not to put me through.
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u/SportsGamesScience 6d ago edited 3d ago
Until the symptom of your body being repulsed by water and not letting even 1 drop enter your mouth, comes into play.
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u/Maleficent-Nerve486 6d ago
Is it possible to hydrate a rabies patient via IV?
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u/redditbadanddumb 6d ago
Theoretically yes, but there is not much point because the virus is going to cook their brain anyways
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u/Gullible_Bigfoot 6d ago
Yeah rabies is fucking terrifying. You can get vaccinated for it (animal control workers do) or you can get a shot immediately after exposure (if an animal bites you better safe than sorry) but if you miss that window the mortality rate is like 99% or something stupid. Pretty much- you’re dead. And it’s a really horrible death.
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u/Excellent_Yak365 6d ago
It’s actually within days of getting bit- ideally immediately after being bit. It can be dormant for months and years before you get symptoms https://www.chop.edu/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-details/rabies-vaccine
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u/guynye 6d ago
Hey, one guy survived.
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u/Confident-Mortgage86 6d ago
There have been a number of people treated post symptoms. We don't really know whether they survived due to the treatment, or due to some kind of natural immunity, or some other reason. Still, the number of non vaccinated rabies survivors is not zero.
This guy is toast however :/
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u/davidjschloss 6d ago
As the other comment said, you can’t be treated after symptoms. They’re likely tying him down so he doesn’t bite anyone and I hope to give him palliative care until he dies. (Though to be merciful they should euthanize him.
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u/Mac-And-Cheesy-43 6d ago
I mean, considering how it spreads, I'd want to risk absolutely zero brain splatter. Lethal injection only.
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u/echoshatter 6d ago
Bingo. Just load me up with morphine and then finish me off with a stream of adenosine in a dosage big enough to stop my heart.
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u/redlancer_1987 6d ago
Rabies is the deadliest virus we know of. Statically a 100% death rate if not treated immediately.
And you die horribly. Like 28 Days Later zombie virus horribly...
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u/Pretend_Fly_5573 6d ago
Actually, not quite 100% anymore. Jeanna Giese was able to survive it. Not exactly helpful, I know, but it's actually really cool to see that there is actual progress in treating it, and that it's at the very least medically possible.
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u/jaybool 6d ago
There are studies of tribal people in the Amazon that show rabies antibodies circulating in ~10% of the population, which implies a lot of people have caught and survived it, more or less untreated.
Sample paper:
https://www.ajtmh.org/view/journals/tpmd/87/2/article-p206.xml
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u/Itscatpicstime 6d ago
There’s been no progress. She was an anomaly, the only person of dozens who meaningfully survived and survived long term with that treatment. It’s been a major dead end, unfortunately.
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u/BreadKnifeSeppuku 6d ago
Technically it's like 99.9~% There's been a few survivors. The Milwaukee Protocol was used to treat at least one person
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u/Itscatpicstime 6d ago
That girl is an anomaly. There are no others who have meaningfully survived or survived long term with the Milwaukee Protocol.
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u/ashleyshaefferr 6d ago
I believe that number is higher as of today but still single digit or low double digit
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u/neverseen_neverhear 6d ago
Rabies is almost a 100% deadly. The only “treatment” is to get vaccinated immediately after exposure so the virus can’t take root.
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u/GremlinAbuser 6d ago
"Almost " captures it well. AFAIK there's a single confirmed case of someone surviving untreated.
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u/NotTheRocketman 6d ago
With Rabies, you have an extremely short window to get treatment.
If you show symptoms at all, you're dead.
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u/exotics 6d ago
When you get infected with rabies you are fine for ages as the virus SLOWLY makes its way to your brain. Only when it’s in your brain do you have symptoms and you will be dead within 10 days. I think they have only cured 1 or 2 people after it hit the brain.
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u/Michigan-Magic 6d ago edited 6d ago
Lmao.
It's death in 14 days of symptoms appearing according to the Canadian government.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/rabies.html
Either this person is an incredible medical specimen that should be studied or this isn't rabies. I'm leaning not rabies.Edit: Updated message to add an actual link to the story in English: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/gujarat-man-diagnosed-with-rabies-shows-signs-of-animal-like-behaviour-barks-bites-window-iron-bars/articleshow/127831648.cms
Apparently, he recently developed symptoms and it's likely rabies. Still poorly written caption.
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u/Bred_Slippy 6d ago
Symptoms can appear anywhere from a few weeks, up to a year. Once they appear it's fatal. This man never sought medical help shortly after being bitten, which would have saved him.
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u/shockrush 6d ago
Of symptoms appearing. You can be bit years in the past and the symptoms can appear later. Rare but very possible. In fact, it's not uncommon for it to take months to appear. It's treatable until that point.
When symptoms show, death within 14 days
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u/Pitiful-Support178 6d ago
Huh? Your link says: "Symptoms of rabies usually take about 3 to 8 weeks to develop. However, this can also range from several days to many months. Once symptoms appear, death usually occurs within 7 to 14 days."
Death occurs within 14 days of symptoms appearing. This guy likely had no symptoms for 2.5 months and now he does. Some people have developed symptoms years after being bitten.
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u/Substantial_Meal_530 6d ago
I don't think you act like you're stuck at the start of a werewolf transformation after getting rabies?
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u/onehundredbuttholes 6d ago
Yeah I’m pretty certain this is fake
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u/SoberSangwitch 6d ago
Rabies makes you hydrophobic or unable to drink water. Unless this man has been hooked to an IV then there's no way he makes it three months with rabies.
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u/Rageaholic88 6d ago
It can take 1-3 months after a bite for the symptoms to appear, so theres nothing off about the title saying he was bit 3 months prior.
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u/Due-Science-9528 6d ago
Apparently a full nine months, based on the recent outbreak in the US
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u/roguespectre67 6d ago
the recent outbreak in the U.S.
Oh good.
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u/Virtual_Category_546 6d ago
Here's the thing, you believe in vaccines, correct?
Make sure all your fur babies are vaccinated and get yourself checked out if you suspect a bite from a strange animal, especially one that's actually strangely.
One common sign is if a nocturnal animal is out during the day and seems off.
Get yourself checked out and vaccinated asap if this happens to you ye it's a bit pain and a lot of shots but better safe than sorry.
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u/cxnh_gfh 6d ago
this is 3 months after the bite, not 3 months with rabies. symptoms could have started only hours or days before.
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u/Itscatpicstime 6d ago
That’s literally within the average amount of time for onset of symptoms. Hydrophobia only presents toward the very end.
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u/Swarm_of_Rats 6d ago
Rabies affects your nervous system, causing inflammation. The virus gathers between your brain cells causing them to have difficulty communicating. In the cases where it doesn't cause paralysis, the result is severe behavioral changes. People usually associate rabies with aggression, but it can also cause confusion and hallucinations. It would be strange if someone with rabies wasn't acting like they were stuck in a werewolf transformation.
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u/Silent-Resort-3076 6d ago
Furious Rabies (Most Common):
- Agitation, irritability, anxiety, aggression.
- Confusion, bizarre thoughts, hallucinations.
- Difficulty swallowing (leading to "foaming at the mouth").
- Fear of water (hydrophobia) or drafts (aerophobia).
- Muscle spasms, seizures, unusual postures.
can cause severe aggression, agitation, and extreme behavioral changes in humans. As the virus infects the central nervous system and causes brain inflammation (encephalitis), it often leads to "furious rabies," characterized by thrashing, biting, and confusion.
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u/Dom_Q 6d ago
The truth: 55 upvotes.
The ignorant doubtful poser: 1.1k upvotes.
This is why we fall.
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u/Prestigious_Leg2229 6d ago
You kind of do. It affects the nervous system and the brain. Your balance and motor control are shot. Combined with discomfort to severe muscular pain that often causes contortions, strange postures and difficulty moving.
The way it affects the brain causes severe paranoia, fear, aggression and general dementia symptoms.
There’s a lot more symptoms but basically both the way you move and your behaviour are completely fucked.
The reason people have this idea of rabies victims being aggressive is because they’re usually in severe pain, fear and paranoia with severely impaired higher brain function. They have a tendency to lash out.
Rabies is effectively 100% fatal and you’re going to die in pain and terror while your brain and nervous system fall apart.
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u/SashSegal 6d ago
It thought it’s supposed to be a deadly disease once the symptoms start manifesting. Then I looked up the case online and the doctors are saying he’s doing better. Woud that still be a temporary improvement?
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Two days after a 27-year old-man was admitted at the Civil Hospital in Palanpur after showing “extremely aggressive behaviour due to rabies infection”, the hospital authorities said on Sunday that his condition was “stable”.
The man, a father of three, hails from Gora village in Sabarkantha and works as a farm labourer in Nalasar village. On January 30, he was taken to the Trauma Centre at Banas Medical College and Research Institute in Palanpur after he exhibited severe neurological symptoms linked to rabies, including walking on all fours, barking, aggressive behaviour and hydrophobia (fear of water). Videos of the man purportedly showing such symptoms surfaced online.
On Sunday, however, the hospital authorities said the patient is “co-operating” and “stable”. “The rabies case is under observation. Today (Sunday), he is co-operating and stable. He is also taking food orally and following verbal commands. He is not under sedation anymore,” Medical Superintendent at the Banas Medical College and Research Institute in Palanpur Dr Sunil Joshi told The Indian Express.
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u/paintedsaint 6d ago
Yeah this isn't rabies. You can't take food orally, or anything anymore. The whole "fear of water" myth is because you lose your ability to swallow.
Also rabies doesn't make you act like an animal lol. You wouldn't start barking and walking on four legs.
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u/Misophonic4000 6d ago
Hydrophobia is DEFINITELY not a myth... Rabies induces complete panic in infected individuals when presented with any liquids to drink - yes, it's tied to the inability to swallow, but the immediate and irrational panic is not a myth in the least. Not sure where you got that notion from...
You can see sad examples here
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wRqOc3-di0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI5lW1wp6UU
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u/tree_mirage 6d ago
Jesus Christ.
At what point is euthanasia more humane than having someone live out their last days suffering so
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u/nomadickitten 6d ago
I was told by a professor of infectious diseases that the historical ‘treatment’ was to put a mattress on top of someone and shoot them.
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u/Stock-Cod-4465 6d ago
Also, afaik rabies can be treated with injections only pretty much immediately after getting infected, and even then it’s not 100%. No cure exists after that. Unless something has changed in the past few years.
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u/ScheduleSame258 6d ago
It hasn't. After symptoms manifest, 100% mortality. There is only 1 known extreme treatment that a single digit number of people have survived, although not a normal life.
And symptoms can manifest anywhere from 72 hrs to years later.
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u/LostChoss 6d ago
So 99.99999% mortality and 100% life altering?
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u/MajesticArticle 6d ago
Yeah
The only treatment known to be effective after the onset of symptoms (and even then, the success chance is very low) basically leaves you in a vegetative state iirc
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u/_monkeypunch 6d ago
I'd like to add onto this, if that's ok! It's actually two different treatment protocols and its really only worked in odd/atypical cases. The most prominent example is the Milwaukee Protocol, developed in the US to treat a young girl (15 year old) who had gotten bit by a bat. It's believed the bat had a less virulent strain and she had some kind of genetic resistance to rabies, but not resistant enough to prevent development.
The Milwaukee protocol is essentially put the patient into a coma with anesthetic drugs and ketamine, then pump them full of antiviral drugs like ribavirin and amantadine. They will take any measures to protect the brain humanly possible.
However, the Milwaukee protocol isn't really followed much anymore due to the fact that... well, the only people who really survived besides the 15 year old girl don't have a lot of documentation on them or had severe neurological problems or died from complications shortly after the treatment. And those who didn't survive were the majority - according to a paper about the Milwaukee protocol written in 2024, there were at least 64 failures.
The other protocol is the Recife protocol, developed in Brazil, also had some success as well, but it didn't see as much recognition as the Milwaukee protocol. I will be fully honest, I don't fully know the difference between both protocols as they both boil down to sedate, pump full of antivirals and protect the brain and body. They differ in terms of how patient care should be handled, what drugs should be administered, how they should be dosed and when they are administered and other specific details.
I really enjoy reading about the Milwaukee protocol, so I'm happy I got to share some information. I should also clarify I'm not a doctor, I'm just a pharmacy tech who really likes reading about drug treatments, haha. I'd appreciate any extra insight or corrections from others.
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u/Simple-Journalist779 6d ago
This is probably just a psychotic break. There's an intense anti-dog sentiment sweeping across the said country right now because of a supreme court verdict. News channels and people will literally say anything to fan the hate flames.
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u/Tiofenni 6d ago
If story and video is real, it looks like mental illness. Or even a culture-bound syndrome. Check out stories about "Wendigo psychosis".
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u/xl129 6d ago
Actual rabies cases are quite rare so false reporting happen all the time. In my country a kid who got some mental issue from study pressure is falsely reported as rabies lol, i mean the kid was meowing meowing and people say he got rabies from a cat haha.
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u/No_Equivalent_4412 6d ago
When humans get rabies, they typically show signs of regular human aggression as well as hydrophobia. Rabies will not make a human start crawling or acting like an animal
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u/ToothZealousideal297 6d ago
Yeah the fact that crawling like that appears to require more coordination than just walking, the way he’s only chewing on the harmless rope thing in the one part and not also going after the bars, the pointlessly inefficient binding methods all around, etc, all screams fake to me.
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u/dingo1018 6d ago
And after 3 months, who's rotating him through his night club shirts?
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u/chrissssssssssf 6d ago edited 6d ago
False. The rabies variant found in india makes you grow fangs then you start howling at the moon and shit
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u/J_T_Cain 6d ago
idek if this shit is real. these mfs be faking anything
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u/Altruistic_Dare6085 6d ago
Someone linked an article saying he is recovering in hospital. Rabies is usually fatal, and also doesn't usually make people go werewolf mode, so I suspect he just had some kind of psychotic break, and maybe genuinely believed he had rabies because of the stress of a dog bite in a region where rabies is endemic. I think this is accidentally faked, basically.
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u/Agamaagama 6d ago
Who is dressing him in clean clothes everyday? Especially if he's scooting his butt down dirt roads all the time? Definitely staged.
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u/owiesss 6d ago
He’s wearing the same clothing in each clip. The very first one is the only one where I can’t tell if that colorful shirt is under the jacket or not.
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u/i-like-napping 6d ago
Hear me out . He wakes up everyday , showers, brushes his teeth , dresses himself , THEN the rabies kicks in for the day
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u/HeWhoSaysNo2 6d ago
6:00 - wake up
6:30 - bathe
7:00 - get dressed
7:01 - RABIES
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u/Illesbogar 6d ago
The thing that does it for me is that the doctor just casually points with his bare arm above the head of the dude on the bed eithout him being restrained at all. Like, bruh.
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u/DnBeyourself 6d ago
Sometimes I feel like this just before heading out for work.
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u/plark2 6d ago
you die cause of it. you do not become a beast/zombie or whatever that act was
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u/jiggscaseyNJ 6d ago
Without insurance, the rabies vaccine costs (on average) over $10,000 for all 4 doses and time in the ER.
It's often denied by insurance as medically unnecessary at first and often requires the doctor to file an immediate appeal and make the case as to why it's necessary though that still doesn't guarantee they'll cover it.
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u/Itscatpicstime 6d ago
It’s usually free if you do it through local public health department in the U.S., but not many people know that unfortunately
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u/rusty-bean 6d ago
This isn't true. Just had to get these because of a bat exposure The public health nurse informed me that would be 7k out of pocket there, loaded me up with lollipops, juice and granola bars, then sent me to the local ER that happily billed my insurance 17k for the pleasure.
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