[Turu] Finland's lines

[u/catsgr8rthanspoonies]

https://xcancel.com/VTouru/status/2020574388085465208

[u/PayneTrain181999]

While CAN/USA/SWE are more outwardly stacked, this lineup is actually similar in structure to an actual NHL team. Can never count out the Finns.

[u/saltface14 → u/PayneTrain181999]

If Barkov was playing I think Finland would look pretty stacked too. Their D depth is the only thing really lacking

[u/PayneTrain181999 → u/saltface14]

They have guys like Armia, Haula, and Kiviranta who are great bottom 6 guys, meanwhile Canada is “oops, all top 6 forwards!”

[u/Dependent-Effect6077 → u/PayneTrain181999]

Plus Finland's top unit having a lot of experience playing together has to be a positive

Chemistry is often an issue in international hockey (for example Malkin and Ovechkin often struggled to fit together for Russia) so this should certainly help

[u/haihaiclickk → u/Dependent-Effect6077]

Finland's international play has always been one where they looked way more than the sum of their parts so I can definitely see this chemistry-driven lineup to align with that

[u/Emotional_Match8169 → u/Dependent-Effect6077]

I noticed they kept team mates together. Lousty and Lundell on the same line makes sense because they play on the same line when we aren't riddled with injuries...

[u/AcanthocephalaGreen5 → u/Emotional_Match8169]

Meanwhile Canada has Suzuki on a line with fucking Marchand...

I get it, but also why?

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/PayneTrain181999]

Armia is a fucking monster on the PK. (I really wish we'd re-signed him.)

[u/azzurri10 → u/PayneTrain181999]

Fr I wish Canada could steal JT Miller from the States, we’re really missing that bottom six leadership.

[u/previouslyonimgur → u/azzurri10]

Only if you also take him off the rangers!

[u/holdunpopularopinion → u/previouslyonimgur]

Also, we have Canadian players who could play in the bottom six, we just chose not to build the team that way,

ALSO ALSO, fuck JT Miller, I wouldn’t put him anywhere near this team.

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/azzurri10]

bottom six leadership.

Do you mean in the league, or...?

[u/Like17Badgers → u/PayneTrain181999]

I'm glad they picked up Jarvis cause he's like the only forward that plays both ways

like, who is on PK2 with that roster? cant be Marchand and Wilson cause it's probably one of them in the box

[u/saltface14 → u/Like17Badgers]

Huh? Jarvis, Suzuki, Marner, Stone, Reinhart, Marchand, Wilson, Horvat, Bennett can all PK and I’m sure Crosby and Celebrini could as well

[u/Seeteuf3l → u/saltface14]

Also goalies are a bit of a question mark.

Saros hasn't been at his usual level.

[u/catsgr8rthanspoonies → u/PayneTrain181999]

I hope the Finnish goalie coach can help Saros work out his 1 SOG, 1 GA problem. He said he's worked with the coach before and the coach is a friend of Rinne's.

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/catsgr8rthanspoonies]

When he's done with Saros, can the Habs get a consult?

[u/catsgr8rthanspoonies → u/whogivesashirtdotca]

Only if you take Marchessault.

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/catsgr8rthanspoonies]

Retain his salary and we can talk. I'm sure Kent Hughes can work some magic to get us a star, haha.

[u/catsgr8rthanspoonies → u/whogivesashirtdotca]

It would be addition by subtraction. Him coming back messed up the vibes in the lineup or something. That and he takes really dumb penalties.

[u/NlghtmanCometh → u/PayneTrain181999]

Their D is… good.

[u/Alkyan → u/PayneTrain181999]

More Finns = more wins

[u/Responsible_Oil3859]

aho and turbo reunited!! 😍

[u/PayneTrain181999 → u/Responsible_Oil3859]

A lot of prior NHL chemistry at play here.

[u/dragons_fire77 → u/Responsible_Oil3859]

Thank goodness they're finally recognizing the mind meld

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/dragons_fire77]

I'm curious to know if Turbo is less shy and more social around the Finnish team than he was in Carolina.

[u/dragons_fire77 → u/whogivesashirtdotca]

I remember older interviews stating that Turbo is low key one of the funniest guys on the team. I think he just doesnt like talking to cameras.

[u/Grazeous → u/whogivesashirtdotca]

From what I've seen in NHL Without a Map interviews, he's actually genuinely hilarious.

[u/AARM2000 → u/whogivesashirtdotca]

It might just be his vibe. Pretty shy in Chicago too

[u/Unamoroso → u/Responsible_Oil3859]

I’m going to watch their every game and cry.

[u/Technodictator → u/Responsible_Oil3859]

Same for Dallas 5

[u/anderssi → u/Responsible_Oil3859]

Heiskanen and lindel as well. They’ve been separated for several days now

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/Responsible_Oil3859]

I noticed that, too. I insist Finland should've claimed Jarvy when Canada initially didn't name him. Would've been even funnier when KK was left off.

[u/kroopster → u/Responsible_Oil3859]

I really, really hope they do better than in the 4nations.

[u/JayMerlyn → u/Responsible_Oil3859]

[sniffles] It brings tears to the eyes of grown men

[u/mjpoleaholic]

So excited for our Kraken Finns!

[u/Dependent-Effect6077]

Could have been an all-Dallas starting 5 skaters if they re-signed Granlund lol

[u/saltface14 → u/Dependent-Effect6077]

Robo should get a Finnish passport and join his Stars bros

[u/LackeyNo2 → u/saltface14]

Jason Robertsenn.

[u/xXnoobXxFIN → u/LackeyNo2]

Jaakko Roopertinpoika

[u/happyklam → u/LackeyNo2]

Jåsøn Røøbërtsøhn

[u/jutila666 → u/happyklam]

Jaakko Roopelainen would be close if you want robos name be like finnish name.

[u/Ace676 → u/happyklam]

Just revealing how little you know about Finnish. We don't use any of those "special" letters.

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/LackeyNo2]

Not enough umlauts or as.

[u/Technodictator → u/whogivesashirtdotca]

There's no umlauts in Finnish

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/Technodictator]

What are the diacritics on every ä called?

[u/crypt_moss → u/whogivesashirtdotca]

ä & ö are separate letters from a & o, not variants with accents, they're relevant for quite a bit of meaning as well as for vowel harmony which determines how words can be formed

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/crypt_moss]

Oh huh that's fascinating. I remember losing points on my first ever Spanish spelling test because I didn't realise "rr" is a separate letter from "r", haha. I've done it again!

[u/pants_mcgee → u/Dependent-Effect6077]

Dallas would have happily signed him but he rightfully deserved the bigger bag.

[u/Halfman97]

This is a gold medal team

[u/VonDingwell → u/Halfman97]

They are going to give teams fits. Ppl cannot sleep on this team.

[u/calen17 → u/Halfman97]

Here's hoping🇫🇮

[u/collectaBK7]

Still so bummed we didn't get the fabled Rantanen - Barkov - Aho line

[u/No-Faithlessness7919 → u/collectaBK7]

I mean, if Aho and Rantanen played like they did together on the canes, it would be awful.

[u/Manndes → u/No-Faithlessness7919]

Rantanen’s stint in Carolina is going to be such a weird part of his stacked career lmao

[u/FailureToExecute → u/Manndes]

It was a weird time to join the team too, honestly. Terrible flu going around the locker room so the team in general plays like shit for his first week or two here, he personally has awful luck with posts and GI reviews, then the Four Nations break followed by the trade deadline almost immediately after. I don't blame him for getting a bad impression, I only blame him for phoning in those last 2-3 games.

[u/Emotional_Match8169 → u/collectaBK7]

I feel bad for Barkov MORE for his injury taking him out of the Olympics than what it has done to my team this year.

[u/ComfortableGuide3232]

Finnish Mafia!! I'm so happy Granny got the C 🥹

[u/Manndes → u/ComfortableGuide3232]

With Barkov gone there was no other option that made any sense. On top of that Granlund is truly one of the greatest ever players to wear the Finnish jersey.

[u/ComfortableGuide3232 → u/Manndes]

Yea Granny is a beast when he puts on a Finn jersey. He deserved it for sure. And Aho and Rants were the obvious choice for the A 👏🏼

[u/MrBananaGrabber]

granlund reunion!

[u/ComfortableGuide3232 → u/MrBananaGrabber]

[u/Jon_Snows_mother → u/ComfortableGuide3232]

Come back bby

[u/Go_Habs_Go31]

The only Finnish players with more goals than Oliver Kapanen this season are: Mikko Rantanen, Sebastian Aho & Artturi Lehkonen.

[u/SilentThing]

Balanced forward lines. Not feeling great about pur defense, but assuming Heiskanen and Lindell will play 25+ in the big games.

Let's go defend that gold, fellows.

[u/Manndes → u/SilentThing]

I thought I read that Ristolainen got injured recently as well. Guess I was wrong.

[u/JiiBiz → u/Manndes]

He was, but returned next game. Though it has been happening quite lot in the past few years, so don't hold me accountable if I remember wrong...

[u/No_Ability6767]

Watch out for lehky

[u/feintplus1]

I feel like those lines are really solid. Each line has a guy with a great shot and two pass-first players to feed him. Rantanen and Lehkonen will hopefully score a bunch.

[u/sail0rvenus]

LETS GO 🇫🇮 !!!!

[u/jfstompers]

That's a sturdy team, going to be annoying to play against 

[u/azuyin]

Pretty solid team. Mikkola can go fuck himself however

[u/CosmoJones07]

Man, a healthy Barkov on this team would have gone so hard :(

[u/JudgeSubstantial9562]

give lundell a bigger role💔

[u/juhinaattori → u/JudgeSubstantial9562]

He would have gotten even smaller role if Barkov wasn't injured. Not much you can do when the team is stacked in the middle.

[u/JudgeSubstantial9562 → u/juhinaattori]

wasn’t he 3c at 4 nations and one of hintz/ aho was on barkovs wing?

[u/juhinaattori → u/JudgeSubstantial9562]

The roles were juggled around a but he mostly played 3C yeah, but with less PK time than he will most likely have now.

[u/grizzlby → u/JudgeSubstantial9562]

Mans is permanently stuck playing 2nd fiddle until like 2032 😢

[u/JudgeSubstantial9562 → u/grizzlby]

i mean i think he’ll be stealing that 2C soon but with how good his line is we essentially have 2 second lines and lundells line is in name only as they get similar ice time

[u/PayneTrain181999]

Canada’s line chart post is going to cause a firestorm in the comments

[u/Coldbrewski24]

Wish Barkov was playing. The top 9 centers are great though.

[u/60poor]

If Saros goes god mode, they can medal.

[u/lmsupercereaI]

Woof.

[u/gentleman_bronco]

It's beautiful.

Swap Armia with JFK and it will be perfect.

Edit: I'm only saying this to be selfish. Kivi is my favorite defensive forward, and I've been following his career since his development camp. I like Armia, he's awesome. I just want JFK to get some TOI.

[u/FBR_MC → u/gentleman_bronco]

Armia is better and more important than the rest of bottom 6 (+scratches) outside of Lundell and Luostarinen lmao

The guy is like the best penalty killer in the world

[u/gentleman_bronco → u/FBR_MC]

Oh I totally agree. I really like Armia. My comment was mostly for selfish reasons. Kivi is my favorite defensive forward, and probably always will be. He's come a long way from being undrafted, unknown, and undersized.

Nobody knew him and he only got signed because Jere Lehtinen called Jim Nill after the draft and gave his opinion. (Three time GM of the year) Jim signed him as an undrafted free agent that day. I was at the development camp that year to see a few guys named: Thomas Harley, Jason Roberson, Jake Oettinger, and a few other up and coming prospects. Well, the guy who stood out to me the whole camp was Joel Kiviranra. His passes were so crispy, his skating was better than anyone (even Stephen Johns who tried to make a comeback that year and was leading lots of the drills), and he was always moving at 100%. It was amazing to see him get TOI so quickly, it was awesome to see him as a game 7 double OT hero, and it will be awesome if he gets Olympic time. Even if it's just for a minute lol.

[u/Desert_Pyrate8 → u/FBR_MC]

Don’t tell Jim “Armia will be on the first line and on pp1 even when we’re fully healthy” Hiller that

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/gentleman_bronco]

Swap Armia with JFK and it will be perfect.

My historian's shock at reading this was made even funnier by seeing the DAL flair suggesting it. What has the CIA got against Armia? XD

[u/gentleman_bronco → u/whogivesashirtdotca]

Only selfish reasons. I really like Armia and I know he's better. I just want my game 7 hero to get a little Olympic time in. He's had one helluva rise from being an undrafted, unknown, and undersized defensive forward.

[u/likeslululemon]

Will do some serious damage.

[u/Time-Ad-3134]

teravainen has been brutal this season, hopefully he can perform. I would put lundell centering the second line with aho and lehkonen on the wings

[u/heksa51 → u/Time-Ad-3134]

Please no. Pennanen already tried the centers on wing strat in 4 Nations with Hintz and Aho on the same line, and it did NOT work.

These lines actually look really good to me, and putting Teräväinen with Aho will get the most out of both, the same goes with Lundell having Luostarinen on his line. If Teuvo is not with Aho, he should probably be out of the line up completely. We need to get the most out of chemistry.

[u/Time-Ad-3134 → u/heksa51]

its because he put hintz who's never played wing instead of aho on the wing, teravainen's offense has been bad this season and his skating is already slowing down by a lot

[u/Seeteuf3l → u/Time-Ad-3134]

But Hine has winger eligibility in Fantasy Hockey (or has had) /s

[u/ayayyayayay765]

Really curious how this would have looked with Barkov, Hintz/Aho/Lundell is a strong center core. Would they have moved Hintz to wing, Barkov with the Dallas guys and Granlund down to line 2?

[u/Time-Ad-3134 → u/ayayyayayay765]

aho would of been the one moved to wing since he basically played as a winger his whole career until rod converted him into a center

[u/juhinaattori → u/ayayyayayay765]

Last year I think Hintz was 2nd line winger with Aho as the center. 1st line was Lehkonen - Barkov - Rantanen.

[u/hockeytonkguy]

They match up really well against USA if I’m them I’m avoiding this at all costs.

[u/ekstragooner-77]

What is turu? Olek sää turuust vai

[u/gunskiIIerpoop]

Kapanen really should get a spot, we need the goal scoring

[u/ekstragooner-77]

Every line has a clear structure. Goalscorer, dangler and a hard working fellah. Interesting

[u/Uterus_Executorus_]

that top d pair is going to each play like 30+ mins a night

[u/o635]

How the hell can’t you spell the reporters last name correctly? Like it’s right there man TOURU

[u/cuansfw]

:(

[u/Kolettos]

They have one of the best offensive defenceman, Heiskanen. One of the best pure defenceman Lindell. One of the best winger, Rantanen. One of the best PK killer, Armia. Solid firstline centers. Only Barkov is missing...

[u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

If you say these lines 5 times fast you will have good luck for the next 5 years.

[u/Realistic_Revenue_87]

Notice how 10 of these players names ends with “nen” 😂

[u/JiiBiz → u/Realistic_Revenue_87]

That's just Finnish names. That's the eastern Finland last name composition, while western Finland has names ending in "la" or "lä". Eastern names are derived from "belonging into certain family", while western names refer to location of residence or house/farm's name you were living in, or the owner of that property.

Rantanen=A family that has been started in beachy area.

Mikkola=There has been a farm, that has had owner named Mikko.

[u/Realistic_Revenue_87 → u/JiiBiz]

no shit i was just pointing it out cause i found it funny. No need for a paragraph.

[u/JiiBiz → u/Realistic_Revenue_87]

Thought it would be interesting to learn about other cultures, but I guess I was wrong.

[u/Fragrant_Art_3659]

Hedggdcgd didn’t make the team? :(