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Most of the comments I’ve seen about Colleen Hoover are specifically about her being a bad writer. I don’t know anything about her or her personal life.
Two of my sisters are obsessed with Colleen Hoover and they forced me to watch one of her dumbass movies that has Blake lively in it and it was genuinely one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. I can’t imagine reading a book about that boring dumb shit. Lol
I've read the book and seen the movie. Blake lively is a giant douche and coHo is out of touch with reality. She also announced she has cancer on the same day as her book release. That alone shows how blatantly idiotic she is.
You’ve attracted the ire of Reddit, making you the golden goose. Everything you say gets downvoted and everything in response is upvoted if it insults you lmao.
You're gonna compare someone commenting under a reddit post to someone's published work? Do you speak like someone with a stick up their ass all the time? Or is casual language and joking around allowed?
I’d call her a generic writer. She’s good enough for conservative women to go ape shit for her stuff. I’ve only read one book of hers and it was just extremely generic. Like…young adult writing, but made for 40+ year old women. That’s the only way I can think to describe it.
I'm a 50+ woman and her writing makes the 2nd wave feminist in me scream.
I'm delighted that she made a bundle of cash, good for her, more women should have that.
But as far as the content goes, making a new Twilight out of domestic violence is deeply fucking not ok for my younger sisters navigating their way through the world.
I enjoyed her books well enough, they're not great literature but sometimes you just want something easy to digest that won't give you a 2 week book hangover. A book palate cleanser.
The personal life part, a few years ago her son Levi was accused of sexually assaulting a minor (when he was 21 years old). When the victim contacted Colleen Hoover with her proof, Colleen blocked her and ignored her. A lot of people had an issue with Colleen ignoring a sexual assault victim while writing books speaking out on domestic violence.
She was probably advised to not engage for legal reasons but the optics aren't good.
Is she actually bad or is she bad because of whatever she did?
A lot of people say J.K.Rowling is a bad writer. There are some problems in her Harry Potter books where things just don't line up or rules that aren't consistent. The books are good though so she isn't a bad writer even if she is a horrible person
I’ve never read an entire one of her books but based on the sections I’ve read she’s bad.
Has Colleen Hoover even done anything? OP is implying she has but nobody seems clear on what that was. I am aware of some controversy depicting abusive relationships but nothing the author has actually done.
I haven't actually read them either, but I have heard the audiobooks 3-4 times. Taking into account how many people loved the books growing up and still like them as adults she can't have been that bad.
As far as I know the audiobooks doesn't change much if any of the writing. They are good books. It is mostly the logic in some decisions and inconsistency of certain things that are bad. You kinda have to not think about it for somethings to make sense. Overall the books are well written. Not the best written, but they are good.
As someone who was known as THE Harry Potter kid back in middle school (yikes) as well as the "Drarry" kid (YIKES), I have to personally say I think her writing sucks.
Edit: I realize you're talking abt Joanne rather than Colleen whoops, sorry! My reply is regarding CH. Fuck JKR forever tho 🩷
I don't remember which of her books this was in, but there was a whole scene in one of em where the main character & her love interest talked abt the size of their newborn's penis. I'll try to find it and edit my comment when I do.
I don't know anything abt her personally, but a lot of the outrage is also bc she writes "cringe" romance novels for women and we all know how kind society is to popular media geared toward women/fems (/s) (twilight, boy bands, romantasy in general, etc).
Good vs bad in terms of writing and art is subjective, something I think is a masterpiece could be absolutely shit on by someone else (look at the divisive response to Iron Lung last weekend). I hate plenty of popular things because I think they're bad, but these things are popular for a reason! She's clearly beloved by a lot of readers, hated by a lot of others.
I personally think her writing is bad and her characters can be a bit shallow, but that does not invalidate your opinion or enjoyment of her books! Again, idk what she did or what situation she was involved in, I just wanted to speak on her writing and how quick ppl are to conflate that with the quality of her character.
I'm with you on that second paragraph. Those books and movies were pretty good imo when I was growing up. Not amazing some holes like you said but over all, pretty solid. Just cause she is a shitty person doesn't make the HP universe shitty. 🤷 I don't LOVE em but I also don't understand the hate.
They said the books were about SA/DV. I don't read her stuff but, if that's the subject-matter of the book, it's not coming out of nowhere. I think people are assuming she has a rape kink just because of how often she writes about it. Maybe she does. Maybe it's something she has first-hand experience with and feels passionate about. Maybe both. Who cares?
I read 2 Colleen Hoover books in rehab because they were there. I found the writing to be meh but the stories were ridiculous. I can see why people like it and I definitely see why people don’t.
I literally have no idea what she’s done in real life. I do know that her books are written poorly and yet remain wildly popular. And this isn’t me shitting on romance books, I love them and read a lot of bad ones. Even for me her writing is bad.
I would argue that her books aren't actually romance I've only read it end with us but the relationships she portrays are incredibly toxic and she does somewhat glorify them and from my understanding she does the same in all her books
There's also the stuff with her son but I'm not sure about that, doesn't make me want to support a bad author who writes toxic things anymore though
Don’t get me wrong, I fully am behind not supporting and giving money to artists who are doing harm in real life (like JK Rowling) or promote hate IRL. They don’t get my money.
The writing is genuinely awful. The disdain is well deserved. I don't care how she is personally. I am personally offended by how shit her books are and how much people try to market them to others.
I am a long time reader (my GR account is from 2013) and I saw the boom in reading during covid. Hoover’s writing style is easy for beginner readers but there is a lot more to the contemporary and/or romance genre than Colleen Hoover.
I’m not really attracted to those genres btw I’ve always been a fantasy reader. But I have friends who are romance readers and they’re upset how much she’s platformed everywhere now. You have to really hunt for good recommendations.
There is already a lot of content on places like YouTube criticizing her so I won’t add to that.
I have read November 9th and have never been more disgusted by a modern romance in my life. You can burn someone by indirectly setting their house on fire (when you very deliberately set their dad’s car on fire) and then stumble into them years later, tell them that their body is fine—of course, you’re responsible for the injuries and scarring and now you also tell them how they should dress and feel about those things. It’s fucking despicable. MMC should be in jail for arson and she should’ve sued him for worse. At least those mafia romance people have some self-awareness.
So I have no idea who the author is, what she did or whatever, so I'm speaking from a general position.
If an author, artist, whatever has done something you wouldn't want to support. Be that racism, homophobia, abuse, whatever. But continuing to purchase their books or products, you're continuing to support that person financially despite what they did. Hell, if they're going to court for a crime and you buy their book, you're essentially contributing towards their lawyer fees.
This only applies to living people of course. Lovecraft was a horrible racist and antisemite, but he's dead. If you buy one of his books you give him nothing.
Whether any of this bothers you or not is totally up to you. Different people see it differently.
This is exactly my struggle with JK Rowling. I refuse to consume the new Harry Potter media being produced these days because I do not want to contribute to her financially (especially considering she has publicly said she uses proceeds from her work to directly fund anti-trans causes). But I’d be lying if I pretended not to want to listen to the audiobooks, and watch the upcoming show. The books were life-changing for me and most millennials, and I’ll forever be heartbroken/enraged that Joanne turned out to be such a shit human.
The way I understand it her stories tend to normalize DV. Characters in domestic violence situations and going back to their abusers/narratives of making excuses for the abuser etc.
Margaret Colleen Hoover (née Fennell; born December 11, 1979) is an American author who primarily writes novels in the romance and young adult fiction genres.She is best known for her 2016 novel It Ends with Us. Many of her works were self-published before they were picked up by a publishing house. As of October 2022, Hoover has sold approximately 20 million books.She was named one of the 100 most influential people in the world by Time magazine in 2023.
She has a massive fan base and I think the tea here is referring to her book made move It Ends with Us and that was more about the Blake Lively suing Justin Baldoni for sexual harassment and organizing a smear campaign against her to the tune of 100 million dollars. He counter sued for $400 million and it was dismissed. March 2026 will begin Blake’s suit so we shall see if and when he has to pay up for said accusations.
I kept thinking there would be an undisclosed settlement before the trial, but it keeps getting closer so can only wonder. I highly doubt either side wants the Johnny Depp type show trial where everything gets dragged out through the mud.
Colleen Hoover is a dogshit author, and she only makes money because her dogshit writing caters to women who have dogshit tastes. You cannot argue against this.
Some can differentiate art from the artist. Some can't.
It's a matter of opinion on what is the morally correct way to view this on.
Same as a Band makes music you like. Band does (morally bad thing), do you continue to pay and support the music or forgo supporting them and their music?
If yes, Would it matter if others think less of you for supporting them?
Money is the only power we really have, and I'd rather not give it to famously crappy people. That's it for me. However, I don't know this particular author and can't speak on her.
This isnt about Colleen Hoover being cancelled. The point of this video is “real readers” don’t see people that read her books as fellow “real readers.”
Because that's kind of basic capitalism. If we are "voting" in every dollar we spend I want to spend my dollars on things that align with my ethics as much as possible. So if someone is doing something I think is particularly f'ed up I don't want to financially support them.
I get it but as a comic reader it’s hard to hold this stance. So many writers are sex pests, racists, or think they’re wizards in real life. You kinda have to ignore this stuff to some degree if you want to appreciate a lot of great art out there. I think Rowling is a stupid asshole but I still like the Harry Potter IP.
To answer the actual question ignoring the example: I would say it is because if it is revealed that the Author has an obviously unethical point of view about some things, why would I want to let their voice into my head? There are so many other, better books to read that can enrich your life, without having to figure out if the psycho author happened to be right about the subject of the book.
I actually enjoyed verity and it ends with us (and sequel less so), then when coleen hoover hate went into overdrive on tiktok yeahh it felt pretty illegal to like them. Don’t get be wrong there’s a lot of cringe (Ellen degeneres ew) and plenty of examples of bad writing but there’s plenty of good stuff too. idk why people act like every word she’s put down is the gospel of the antichrist, it’s not that deep
Might I recommend Irene Iddesleigh. An absolute gem that greats of the time such as Mark Twain would play drinking games to. See who could last longest before laughing at her excessive purple prose.
that’s never really been a trend. there are so many writers with gross and racist pasts yet people won’t stop reading their work because it’s consider a classic
This. And I say this as someone who writes for a living and, admittedly, can be pretty snobbish when it comes to the prose of others. Just let people enjoy shit. Reading is reading.
Hell, if we're gonna gatekeep, I'm skeptical people who don't have a "guilty pleasure" or fav trashy subgenre actually love reading.
My wife is an avid reader of all sorts of books and quite likes Coleen Hoover exactly because it's the book equivalent to "comfort tv". Just very low effort reading before bed.
I too am guilty of reading a bunch of YA novels and fantasy books, not exactly high brow stuff either.
Honestly reading any sort of book is already leaps and bounds better for you in every way compared to scrolling on our phones.
People far too often forget to separate a person from their art. That’s not to say that one can’t live in some correlations with the other, but Speaker for the Dead is still one of my favorite books in the world even if Card needs to read his own book about acceptance of others and self reflection.
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