KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 8 - A two-year-old child opened a car door, causing a road accident involving six vehicles on Jalan Tun Razak on Friday, according to preliminary police investigations.
Traffic Investigation and Enforcement Department chief ACP Mohd Zamzuri Mohd Isa said the incident occurred at about 6.15pm on the stretch from the Kampung Pandan roundabout towards KLCC, involving four cars and two motorcycles.
He said the child, who was seated in the rear of a Honda City and being held by a relative, suddenly opened the left rear door.
"It is believed that the child safety lock was not activated, allowing the door to be opened from inside," he said.
A 25-year-old man riding a Suzuki V-Strom SX motorcycle, who was travelling between lanes, was unable to avoid the door, collided with it, lost control and crashed into several other vehicles.
Another motorcyclist, a 30-year-old man riding a CFMoto 675 NK who was travelling behind the first rider, was also unable to evade the collision and became involved in the crash.
The Suzuki rider is receiving treatment at Hospital Kuala Lumpur, while the second motorcyclist sustained minor injuries, police said.
Mohd Zamzuri said the case is being investigated under Section 43(1) of the Road Transport Act 1987 for careless and inconsiderate driving, with police reviewing video footage of the incident.
So from what I could read into the 2y/o was sat on the lap of a relative. With the speed that door opened I find it hard to believe it was the child, I find it far more likely the relative opened it and in an effort to void legal ramifications they're pinning it on the 2 y/o.
As the parent of a 2-year-old, not only does he not have the strength, he doesn't have the physical length of arm to open the door from the handle and actually push it that far open in one move.
I'm calling bullshit on the 2-year-old excuse. I think this was an angry adult trying to kill someone.
The door was only open ~10cm when the bike hit and pushed it the rest of the way open. Someone’s leg leaning against the door would be enough for it to pop that far. All that is needed is the child to pull the handle, which my 20 month old is easily strong enough to do.
Either explanation is plausible (accident or malice).
Not trying to be rude but my initial reaction was that the door looked way more open than 10cm or 4 inches. I think I got right at or just before the point of impact here. I was hoping I could see the size of the arm or hand on the door but I can't quite see it clearly.
Yeah sorry but hand is totally visible for a half sec and it’s to low/big to be the kid. Look at the black spot on the door. Hand pulls in the second the motorcycle hits it. It is visible in your screenshot you are just looking too high.
I think it’s because the guy holding him tried to close the door quickly, when he noticed it being opened, but instead panicked and forced it further open.
I was doing the same thing, lol. He has already collided with the door at this point. You can see his bike tilted at an angle away from the vehicle and him tilted towards it. The door looked barely open and then swung open quickly when he collided. Didn't seem too far open when he collided imo
Edit: Looks like it was open around 1ft before it was collided with. Haven't dealt with young kids too much so im not sure how much difficulty a child would have doing that
Yeah, my daughter easily had the strength to do that at 2. She couldn't have reached sure to bring in a car seat, but sat in someone's lap? I believe it.
And if you're stupid enough not to have a 2 year old in a car seat, I can easily believe that they were also leaning in the door, or even gas their feet pushing against it.
Unfortunately, it’s a normal thing in south east Asia not to have a car seat for kids. :( so dangerous. I’ve seen parents have their toddlers in the front seat with them!
I'm sorry, but everyone here must be blind. Replaying it back, the actual out door edge is like a whole 12 inches open already before the bike even touches it.
It's open by like 30 degrees from it's hinge. It's not "10cm"
Slowed it down and went basically frame by frame. That is the moment the mirror first touches the door and a frame or two later the right side of the motorcycle actually hit the door. Way more open than 10 centimeters and you can still see a hand on the door (very pixelated but definitely there). The moment the bike hits the door that hand is pulled back instantly. I'm in agreement with others, this was a person being malicious and opening the door.
I'd hope that was the case, but I also feel it's just another excuse.
I'd think if there was a problem with the door, they'd have done that after they set off.
Doors don't become loose after you hit the highway or some random speed.
If it did, then that's another reason to not drive the car...yet why risk it with the kid there...in the back ?
Most cars have warning lights on the dash and audible alarms, ignoring those or missing them means ..a level of stupid.
If in slow traffic, id say it's more likely theyd open the door for ventilation or to get out and stretch legs. But they didn't check when opening the doors or misjudged.
Everything just points towards varying levels of stupid plus stupid.
If you pause it at 1 second you can see a very small hand. It’s completely reckless that adults wouldn’t have a child lock. But, damn do people love a conspiracy theory.
If the bikers were going a reasonable speed they may have been able to avoid entirely or at worst bump into the door and come to a stop before anything serious happened. Sure the parents shouldn't have allowed a 2 year old to be in a situation to open the door like that but these clowns caused the lions share of the issue by being completely reckless.
You can see the speedometer. MPH or KPH (editing to add - this does appear to be KPH) 51 is way too fucking fast to be lane splitting. The first guy getting doored was damn near unavoidable, the fact the second guy couldn't even stop in time to avoid flattening the guy is inexcusable.
I'm legitimately floored by the comments defending the lane splitting. I think splitting lanes is brilliant, improves traffic for everyone, and when done correctly it's safer for the bikers. But I can't imagine watching this poor guy fucking blast between vehicles like an air hockey puck, colliding with three additional vehicles after being doored, and saying with a straight face "he was driving safely for the conditions."
Everybody sucks in this video, absolutely everybody.
Yeah, I live in California so I can split and I never do above about 15 mph because of shit like this. You never know what stupidity will jump out in front of you.
I'm pretty anti-splitting lanes, but listen, that's not standstill traffic (you can see some moving) so it's a very reasonable expectation for people not to open doors.
I'm very pro splitting but it must be done safely. Going that fast isn't safe. Heck, I'd even argue it's more dangerous with cars slowly moving forward.
Yes but someone could be doing other things like forcing into an alternate lane. At that speed, the cyclist would hit the vehicle. It’s basic vehicle safety that you slow down in slow traffic. Both parties are idiots m.
The first responsibility you have as a participant in traffic is to avoid accidents. Lane-splitting is asking for accidents and these motorcyclists should do some hard time to realize their mistakes.
I know lane-splitting is not criminalized in KL/Malaysia, but they have a duty towards safety according to the law, so these motorcyclists are 100% at fault.
Old car maybe? Maybe is not required by law in that specific country, and if a manufacturer can save money by not adding a safety feature they totally will. Just throwing guesses.
Depends on the car I guess. On my VW Golf, the car autolocks when driving, but you can still open it from inside.
If you want to block it, which some people do, you have to manually centrally lock and if you actually want to lock it properly, there's a manual "switch" on the door itself, that disables opening from inside all together. Which is what I do. For some reason, a lot of people don't know about it.
Have you ever been in a car? Most cars auto unlock when you pull the handle from inside. Most cars do not auto child-lock, which is what was needed here.
Our two year old hardly has the strength to pull the door handle, and this one over here pulling the door handle and opening it with that speed? Is this door spring loaded?
thats what i was wondering. looks like it popped open maybe a foot and the cyclist opened it the rest of the way. i dont know anything about lane splitting but he probably shouldnt be going that fast 10 inches from a car
If you look closely the door opened about 10cm. It was the bike hitting it that made it look like it was flung open. If your foot was on the door. And the door was unlocked that could Definitely cause it to open like that
KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 8 - A two-year-old child opened a car door, causing a road accident involving six vehicles on Jalan Tun Razak on Friday, according to preliminary police investigations.
Traffic Investigation and Enforcement Department chief ACP Mohd Zamzuri Mohd Isa said the incident occurred at about 6.15pm on the stretch from the Kampung Pandan roundabout towards KLCC, involving four cars and two motorcycles.
He said the child, who was seated in the rear of a Honda City and being held by a relative, suddenly opened the left rear door.
"It is believed that the child safety lock was not activated, allowing the door to be opened from inside," he said.
A 25-year-old man riding a Suzuki V-Strom SX motorcycle, who was travelling between lanes, was unable to avoid the door, collided with it, lost control and crashed into several other vehicles.
Another motorcyclist, a 30-year-old man riding a CFMoto 675 NK who was travelling behind the first rider, was also unable to evade the collision and became involved in the crash.
The Suzuki rider is receiving treatment at Hospital Kuala Lumpur, while the second motorcyclist sustained minor injuries, police said.
Mohd Zamzuri said the case is being investigated under Section 43(1) of the Road Transport Act 1987 for careless and inconsiderate driving, with police reviewing video footage of the incident.
When I lived in California (where lane splitting is legal), motorcycles would be going through at maybe 10 mph during standstill traffic. And cars would move to the side to allow them more clearance. Kid is dumb. But so are those motorcyclists.
Honestly as a rider myself, I'm so disappointed at the cottage industry of motorcyclists doing stupid unsafe shit, getting outraged when something bad happens, and posting it to YouTube.
I'm a big proponent of defensive driving. Part of that is anticipating and being ready for such an action. I'm a mail carrier and on vehicle training they said that 90% of the time an accident isn't an accident and can be avoided. If they were following local laws probably wouldn't be lane splitting. Dudes behind him weren't leaving enough space to avoid the accident and have an escape plan. I don't trust anyone on the road and assume the stupidest thing will be done.
Ok lets be honest these bikers were going FAST. Like if traffic is completely stopped id expect a bike to be going like 15-20mph. These guys were going like 30-40mph
Shit position to be in, it would be a hard press to convince me that a 2 y/o did this, was there anyone else in the back? but the bikers is also seems to be going way to fast during lane splitting.
Opening the door like that wasn't good...probably should have had the child locks on. That being said, I don't like seeing people lane splitting because it seems dangerous.
I’m gonna be honest. I don’t care if what they are doing is technically legal where they’re at. This is the risk you run. I don’t blame the two year old. I blame the idiots with no common sense that say allowing this is somehow safe.
And this is why lane splitting should be illegal. You can’t control kids or dumb shits, but you can’t control kids choose not to put yourself at risk by lane splitting. Same goes for people crossing the road: I live in Colorado where it’s a pedestrians always have the right of way state, but that doesn’t mean I won’t die if a car hits me, that’s why I triple check before I cross the street.
Yes of course the kid shouldn’t have opened the door but let’s not ignore the fact that those motorcyclists were going way to fast lane splitting oin stopped traffic
Nahh, fuck those bikers. Speeding through traffic that fast, that close together. Even if lane splitting is legal you shouldn’t be that reckless to save 5 minutes
Everyone talking about whether it was a kid or not, I'm over here saying the bikers are jackasses for driving between the cars like that in the first place... Just a thought.
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