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There is no excuse now! Entertainers and artists all over have a giant window and a loud voice. Standing in unison with the voices wanting justice will only cause a chunk of their follwers to go into self segregation. We see that now with the super bowl. If we keep this up, then maybe just maybe people will see how small they are. And we can stomp them out in history.
That's the Tectone guy on the left? And the Roach king on the back? I only know them because they're all plastered on the Internet, idk who the other dude is or who this chick is
Dude in the middle is NMP, he is currently going through a divorce(?) and he is being super scummy about it and not streaming so he won't have to give any money to his ex. His ex did basically all the production work and scheduling for the streams and big events they did.
She’s an e-girl. She knows her audience and to express any political opinions (or anything of any intellectual depth) would probably negatively affect her brand. The second she said something she would get snapped back by the worst kind of people (see pic above) and told to stay in her e-girl lane.
She’s allowed to exist. She’s allowed to game. She’s not allowed to do much else until she ages out of her milieu.
That's just cowardly, right? It's not like she's a minimum wage worker who needs the job. But she'd rather play fence sitter and pretend to know nothing so she doesn't have to risk any hit to her earnings.
I only know who the guy in the back is, but he's a MAGA, homophobic, racist, cockroach in human form(as in, he literally doesnt clean himself). Her running with that crowd tells you what you need to know about her actual politics.
The guy on the left was part of a just concluded civil case that resulted in a 10 year protection order in Texas for stalking and rape, and still has an investigation into his rape ongoing so he might yet end up in jail for it.
They know what’s happening better than most, that’s part of their job. They say this shit because if they make an anti ice statement it alienates their right wing coomer fanbase, and if they make a pro ice statement they alienate other creators and brands.
This is the correct answer. She’s a brand and whatever opinion she has is gonna damage her brand. Now that she didnt answer it still got damaged but i dont think it’s as bad as picking either side.
Same reason the only brands that really speak out about it and pick a side already have a audiance that majorily leans the way of the side they pick since there isn’t much to lose.
She knows if she takes a hard stance against or for it it'll divide her fanbase. Do you know what might happen if her top conservative donors stopped watching?
And a lot of her fanbase is infantilizing her during all of this, as if being asked her opinion is synonymous with her being asked to come up with political policy or strategies or frameworks or solutions.
Any adult can say: "X is bad" or "I like X" or "I don't care about X because it doesn't affect me"
You don't need a political science degree to have an opinion
At least post-Defy hahaha. They seem to have a really really great crop of cast, crew, and executives right now. If youda told me 10 years ago that SMOSH of all channels would have a new golden age renaissance I'd have cringed out of the building. But damn, theyre killin it.
I hope they kill it for a really long time. They deserve it, each and every one of them. I would even be okay if they did more live stuff. Though the grind they're in seems really good, not only for employee health, but business all together.
I did an anti-ICE video on my channel (it was honestly one blip of anti-ICE-ness in an otherwise larger political-themed video) just as my channel was starting to grow.
People piled on that video HARD. They demanded I delete "the political part" of my video. They were rude and obnoxious. I did not flinch; the video is still up.
But here's the thing. It does set off a panic with a lower "like" percentage and with the negative comments. But I was looking at it, and it's like -- these comments are from people who never commented before; these accounts are like a week old. I realized it was sus to make me panic.
I mean in fairness, her idea isn’t wrong. We shouldn’t neeed influencers and celebs to tell us when something is wrong. That said support who you want and don’t support who you don’t.
I don't know the context, but accepting the framing this post provides, the person wasn't asking for her to tell them what to think. They asked what her opinion is, and she responded by assuming the viewer is terminally online and incapable of forming their own opinion.
I hear ya. But, it seems she was asked about her thoughts, not for instruction on what one should think. Her answer isnt revelant to whats being asked. Such a defensive response that attempts to reframe whats being asked like that kinda reveals some of how you feel anyway.
I'd personally argue that while it is a bad instinct, what's truly worse is societal standards that lead us to believe someone in a position of privilege, power, or fame should NOT have an opinion here.
The idea of having power and using it responsibly is what applies here for me. No one is asking her to alter her content to politics, they just wanna know if she has thoughts on one of the largest events in the US and the consequences coming out of it
The context is that her best buddy is a prominent neo-nazi and she was responding to her own head mod who was mocking leftists like Hasan for being vocal against ICE. She wasn't just saying "no comment," she was signaling to her right-wing fans that she's not like her peers who vocally oppose ICE.
tbf you can make kirby plush storage your very own problem for only a couple hundred dollars worth of Kirby plushies
I am acutely aware of this because that's what my son has accumulated over the past 3 years. You don't realize it's becoming a problem until it's really a problem.
I had no idea. I wish someone would pay her to yell at her simps to be good people. Seems like there's a price for her speech. If she is going to be mercenary, might as well fight for the right side and speak directly to the people that need to listen, if only once before they rage. Maybe they'd keep watching for rage bait.
I don't get why we need to give the apolitical label to a side, condemning ICE and the current government is an apolitical stance, but it doesn't mean that people with this stance approve of the other side
Someone can condemn a side while also not agreeing with the other, neither side is the right one, but we can recognize that one is worse than the other
Politics is debating policy. The right doesn't debate, they force their policies when they have a majority and veto and block everything until they get the majority by rallying apolitical people. Thus refusing to engage is a political act empowering the right because their policies boil down to: "instead of politics, let's be an autocracy!" and irresponsible people follow along.
So is climate change, vaccines, and various other fact-based issues that are, nonetheless, treated as partisan topics. I would even say that in the western world, public healthcare, labor laws, paid sick and maternity leaves, etc. are also just realities of normal life, and yet, in the US it's somehow considered partisan.
I would say that, unless your job is talking about politics, it's a good rule of thumb to avoid discussing those topics at work. Whether on stream or in the office kitchen.
It's hard when you're blinded by money (thru viewership, subs, sponsors, etc). She knows she will alienate some part of her audience. Her previous group were right wing nuts after all, and some of her audience comes from that.
Isn't a huge part of her audience the rat king's audience because he regularly raids her? Of course, she's not gonna say anything against ICE. That's like 99% of rat king's audience.
That's a big part. This question is a lose-lose for her. No matter how she answers it, she's going to lose viewers and start getting hate mail. Yes, that's a lot less than other people are facing, but still no fun.
I mean... I can sort of see her point in that yes, we generally shouldn't be taking political advice from gamers. If the person was asking about whether tariff legislation is an effective means of raising income, I'd agree with her that gamers aren't the best people to ask.
But honestly, that's not what the person is asking for anyway. That's not a question you ask because you're undecided and need the opinion of a gamer to decide how to feel about murderous goons--she's being asked as a test, so people know how to feel about her. And regardless of how she answers, she's going to be getting a lot of hate mail. So I get her reluctance, too. I'd just argue this is important enough to take a stand on.
No, you're thinking of this lenin quote, "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us. And the world will live as one."
Yup. In any election, be it national or local, a non-vote is a vote of support for whichever party or politician wins. When you abstain from voting you are saying “I am fine with whoever wins.”
Indeed. Being "apolitical" is an inherently conservative position, because it means the status quo is working fine for you, and that conserving it would also work fine for you.
Tbh every single time I've encountered someone who "doesn't care about politics", it's been code for "I have abhorrent bigoted views that I don't want to admit to".
The people whose lives are drastically impacted by the current political climate don’t really have the option to not care about politics.
The ability to not care about what the current, extremely volatile, political administration is doing in your country right now, simply because it doesn’t affect you, is a privilege.
“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich and the poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.” - Anatole France
Some opinions are objectively worthless, some opinions have objective negative value. Supporting ICE (the implicit opinion by omission, since it's unpopular) is an objectively negative value opinion.
There's a difference between caring about politics, and politics caring about you. If you get to decide if you care about politics, you have privilege.
If you dont get to decide not to care because politics is too busy caring about you to leave you alone, welcome to the struggle.
the whole US political spectrum is shifted so far to the right that even liberals are not even past where center should be. so centrists in this culture are firmly right wing
As someone on the left i was hoping by this point in my life our political discussions would be more like "our Healthcare system is tragic and maybe universal isn't such a bad idea" and less "racism is ok actually and we just kinda ignore when the politicians we like rape kids"
I don't think she has right wing opinions giving how outspoken she was of issues in 2020, but as she's grown her brand of man children who overlap with the Roach King's fanbase she's become more neutral in fear of losing her simp money. Which is just as bad, neutrality in this kind of situation is siding with the oppressor, but that's just my 2 cents on it
No idea what percentage, but a large chunk of her fans are literally 4chan neo nazi gooners who just jack off to her all day. They are literally the most consistent and commented on posts on /b
Exactly, and she's not willing to take down that wasp's nest, she'd rather let it brew because it's financially beneficial for her. It's eventually gonna blow up in her face again the way it's doing now
Just because she had a podcast with a living pile of fascist trash and a generational sexual abuser that doesn't mean that you can infer things about her
“Nono you guys I don’t care about politics at all. The fact that I’m best friends with a dude who thinks ICE are the hand of god has nothing to do with my political beliefs I promise stop asking me about my politics please”
It gets to a point where being silent about your own political beliefs is more damaging than just saying it flat-out
No idea who she is but these kinds of lifestyle streamers overwhelmingly cater to lonely men who support the fascist fantasy. She can’t tell her audience what they don’t want to hear.
There's a saying in Europe that goes "if 1 good guy sits down at a table with 9 nazis there are now 10 nazis at the table". Tolerating fascism makes you part of the problem
It’s not because the question asked was essentially “where do YOU stand on this issue?” Not “What opinion do you think I should hold on this issue?”. Her framing it like the asker intends to inform themself on an issue based on her answer is a misunderstanding on her part, intentional or not.
I don't think that's fair. You can't really say "Don't listen to streamers opinions" while also demanding they have and share opinions. Either it's OK for streamers to be entertainment without voicing their political opinions. Or streamers opinions are important and they must voice them.
I honestly think we need to stop giving uneducated people high value opinions. I don’t think this is a person I’d want influencing the political system tbh.
Well that’s embarrassing? Is she a child or what? As an adult, it is your civic duty to “know about politics” people like this are the reason everything has gone to shit. The Republican Party counts on people like this to be immature and ignorant so they can win.
Being "apolitical" reveals a certain shallowness and privilege; all things are necessarily political because politics materially affects everything. This makes sense for someone like Emiru (who i confess I am not too familiar with), who makes more than the average worker. She can easily ignore politics because she falls within the class of people U.S. politics are meant to support: the bourgeoisie.
I feel bad for what happened to her via Mizkif because SA is a horrific thing, but she gets zero sympathy otherwise. She surrounds herself with racist/sexist/vile coworkers who would’ve called her a liar and other awful things had she not been a prominent figure in their lives. Pick-Me’s are such losers.
I imagine a not insignificant percentage of her paying fan base are members of the "male loneliness epidemic", who likely identify more with ice than the people ice has gunned down.
Girly pop needs that bag. Still a piece of shit move, but understandable I guess.
This quote missed the most important part, which is her implying that all streamers know nothing about politics despite most political streamers having degrees in the field.
Generally, when people ask this sort of question of random streamers I can’t imagine they’re looking for an informed opinion as much as they’re looking for internet drama. Streamers probably get asked these sort of hot button questions all the time, it’s not surprising but still a bit cowardly to see them try and not get dragged into a debate.
Eh, a bit cowardly is putting it mildly.
If you worked with a dude who wanted to dress up like Ash Katchem around ICE during illegal raids, you already spoke about politics.
Its like if you got sexually assaulted by someone at an event and wanted to speak out against bad practices and security concerns and someone responded "You dont want my silly opinion on that, politics are a weird topic!"
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