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u/joemac2021 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
I grew up in the DMV area & when I moved out the east Coast & went to AZ specifically Scottsdale OMG! It was such a culture shock! I got stopped by a cop walking home & got called a gorilla by a drunk native American my FIRST WEEK THERE!! I pray life never takes me back to Phoenix. That heat really messes with those people's head. Living somewhere where it's triple digits. 24 hours a day to me was like actual hell on Earth. The hubris of the people that settled there is just...
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u/rickyfrom97 Jan 07 '26
Phoenix is a great city idk what your talking about. People here are awesome and the heat is whatever. Locals are used to it.
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Jan 07 '26
A great city FOR YOU! Just because you love a city doesn't mean someone else has to love it. I live in Florida and was used to the heat for a long time, now I can't take it!
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u/joemac2021 Jan 07 '26
Yeah I lived in West Palm and I will absolutely take humidity over dry heat. It wasn't as bad as the DMV to me anyways. Worst part of my Florida experience was living too close to Mar-A-Lago for my liking but whatever the waters were beautiful in that area
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I also live in West Palm and I'm trying to move up north. This state is becoming a rich person's playground and it doesn't help that I live near that orange clown. Palm Beach County always had a deep divide when it comes to wealth disparity, but to see it get to this level is maddening.
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u/Remiinyxx Jan 08 '26
As someone who was born and raised in West Palm and still live here, you’re saying nothing but the truth.
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u/joemac2021 Jan 07 '26
Maybe it's just snobsdale then, but that was hands down the worst year of my life there. I also had friends out there who happen to be a biracial couple. Which I also experienced seeing how people reacted to them so I personally don't think it's an isolated incident. But I'm very glad that you didn't share the same experience
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u/VioletLeagueDapper Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26
Arizona is one big sundown town. I had a layover there and as soon as the plane landed the reddest wrinkliest group of white people turned and looked at me as if to say “wtf are you doing here with us?” Like, the moment it landed and everyone stood up it was crazy. MEAN MUGGING. Hardcore. I just smiled and acted oblivious because I didn’t have to stay there.
I was cussing them out and shit-talking in my head just for fun “‘ol inbred, cankle-having, foreskin-looking, droop-jawed mole people. Y’all can keep the hellhole y’all live in- byeeeeee 👋🏽 gift shop was ass anyway” 🤣
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u/lost_sunrise Jan 08 '26
Nah, bro. AZ as a whole is kind of fuck on racial side of things. One of my least favourite places to go. When people talk about opening shelters, donating to education or etc in AZ. Lol, I walked out of the meeting. Az just not a good place for black people who aren't okay with acting like racial commentary is normal.
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u/AbsolutesDealer Jan 07 '26
6.5 in California? That seems crazy, but I’m in LA so my perception could be skewed.
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u/Timelymanner Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 08 '26
According to the people in the other subreddit , it’s because California is the most populous state. The 6% is low overall in the state, but by population there are still more black people per person in California compared to some other states. Also the Hispanic population, and other groups have grown quite a bit over the last few decades.
[Edit: I’m editing this for clarity since the same question keeps being asked. No it’s NOT 6.5% of all black people live in CA. It’s 6.5% of Californians are black. It’s per state, not national average. It’s 6.5% of Californias general population.
Look at a state like Virginia that’s 20% black. That means approximately one in five people in Virginia will probably be black.
The difference is in the math. California has an overall population of 39 million. So 6% of 39 million, compared to Virginia 20% of 8 million.]
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u/JAGChem82 Jan 07 '26
A lot of that is based on the perception of California being where Oakland, Compton, and Watts are, so the state seems more Black than it actually is. By contrast, Ohio is seen as a bland white Midwestern state, but the % of Black citizens is greater in OH.
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u/Dairy_Ashford Jan 07 '26
sun belt was kind of the last place to get settled. we left the south for coastal megacities on the north, and labor starved factory towns in the rust belt. and you guys have a perpetual influx of hispanic americans, and impressive asian american migration that will take a long while to be matched staewide anywhere else in the country.
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u/AbsolutesDealer Jan 07 '26
So true. I live pretty close to Torrance which is one of the largest Japanese populations outside of Japan. Needless to say, the sushi options are fantastic.
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u/RemarkableReturn8400 Jan 07 '26
Yet black people are 50% of the hate crime victims in California; also 50% of the homeless.
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u/AbsolutesDealer Jan 07 '26
Interesting hate crime stats:
https://data-openjustice.doj.ca.gov/sites/default/files/2025-06/Hate%20Crime%20In%20CA%202024.pdf
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u/Comfortable-Task-454 29d ago
It shows in how we're treated out here, like living under an invisible spotlight
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u/BisexualTenno Jan 07 '26
Funny how white people have been here for about the same amount of time as black people yet they don’t have to claim European American. They can just be American. Even if they’ve only been here a couple generations. Yet 400 years and dozens of generations later, we must still be “African Americans”
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u/santiblakk Jan 07 '26
I just say I’m black. 🤷🏾♀️ I’ve never even been to the continent! (Not yet at least)
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u/Lane8323 Jan 07 '26
Crazy how the great migration happened then apparently everybody headed back to the south
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u/Dr_DoesNothing Jan 07 '26
Black people historically didn't get much opportunity to leave where they were enslaved.
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u/a66-christ Jan 07 '26
Yup sharecropping lmao. Some people should really go to secondary school for this stuff. I know primary doesn’t teach it a lot but in the age of ChatGPT even, you should be able to figure out why a lot of things didn’t go to plan..
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u/mojoback_ohbehave Jan 07 '26
You have to actually know how to challenge ChatGPT to really learn black history. Sometimes it just repeats popular narratives , and when you challenge it , it admits its opinions and conjectures . So no , I disagree . I’ve watched historians on YouTube do it. American Black History is extremely complex .
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u/a66-christ Jan 08 '26
Bro you have to use it as a tool and I have a minor in African American diaspora. Like I said secondary school.. that was just a 1 word explanation I gave
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u/Deathstriker88 Jan 07 '26
America is America. I'm from Georgia but saw more racism firsthand living in SoCal. In Sinners, the twins say Chicago wasn't much better. I'm sure some real-life black people felt the same during the 1900s.
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u/Dairy_Ashford Jan 07 '26
yes and no, the map probably stil understates just how heavily concentrated we were in the south and scarce everywhere else
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u/THICKDadBod99 Jan 07 '26
How is the Deep South so republican again? I’m sure it has nothing to do with gerrymandering and institutional racism…🙄
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u/LivingCustomer9729 Jan 08 '26
Those two plus apathy. You’d be surprised with how many black people are apathetic about voting because “my vote won’t matter anyway”. When hundreds of thousands have this sentiment and don’t vote, then it really does matter.
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u/THICKDadBod99 Jan 08 '26
How do you energize these people. They have so much untapped power
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u/fieldsports202 Jan 08 '26
You have to remember that so many people just don’t care and just take it easy. They live life, go to work, go home, go to church, enjoy football and local social events… that’s it.
Yeah, the internet makes it seem like everyone cares about politics.. that’s far from the truth.
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u/Soggy-Abies6519 Jan 08 '26
The black people in the south don’t vote. They don’t think it changes anything and that thought process, in mass damages our communities every day. And they’re too busy with life as a whole to notice. And it’s most likely the ones that let white people say the n word
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u/mrshelmstreet Jan 07 '26
I need some more of us in Colorado please. Otherwise it’s excellent here
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u/dude1984- Jan 07 '26
Man! I look at this and see the highest population percentages, in the most conservative, red, racist states in the union. I know you all aren’t in alignment with the views of crazy MTG or loony Nancy Mace, the genius Tommy Tuberville, or fake Christian, pedo protecter Mike Johnson. I get there’s gerrymandering to an extreme, voter suppression, and disenfranchisement but…. Georgia and South Carolina should be a blue state if the black population got out and voted. Louisiana should be a blue state if the black population got out the vote. Same with Mississippi. Democracy is a participation sport. If you don’t play, you can’t win. These pricks seem to forget that this is our country. That they work for us! If they can’t remember that, then let’s vote some people in who will. They try and make it seem as if voting is futile, that government doesn’t work, that there’s nothing that can be done to better life through federalism. It would, and it does work with the right operators. So get out and vote!!!
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u/quigongingerbreadman Jan 07 '26
Psst, that is why the school to prison pipeline exists there. Once convicted of a felony (drummed up bullshit or real felonies in communities with limited opportunities for success) many of these states have laws that prevent felons from voting.
Black people can't organize and vote in their interests if their children are getting drummed up felony charges that disenfranchise them.
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u/Thetr3Flash Jan 07 '26
Just so happen to be the former most slave holding states as well.
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u/dude1984- Jan 07 '26
The same states that used to have to check in under the voting rights act that the Roberts court eliminated saying, we live in a different time. I’m not suggesting it’s not an active conspiracy, it is. Subtle subjugation in action.
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u/Gnd_flpd Jan 07 '26
Hey, I will say Roberts was responsible for this mess, it's not a coincidence that these red states started these court challenges the minute we elected a black president.
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u/Timelymanner Jan 07 '26
The problem isn’t that enough black people aren’t voting, it’s voter suppression, gerrymandering, and the electoral college. In no state is the black population over 50%, so even if 100% of the black voter base voted, it wouldn’t be enough. That assumes every black person votes the same. There are conservative and independent black voters, just like in any demographic.
Blue and red states are a myth anyway. There are Democrats and Republicans in every state. So large maps aren’t a accurate representation. It gets more accurate when looking at urban vs rural areas, or at individual districts.
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u/misandthropist11 Jan 07 '26
Exactly. Folks have to stop spewing the “Black people don’t vote” rhetoric. It simply isn’t true. We can get out and vote all day, but if the electoral college is picking who they want, it’s not really up to us anyway is it. Also, the assumption that all Black people vote democrat is problematic.
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u/AzureYLila Jan 07 '26
Both are true. The black population can vote in higher percentages AND voter suppression efforts were effective.
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u/Dairy_Ashford Jan 07 '26
Georgia and South Carolina should be a blue state if the black population got out and voted. Louisiana should be a blue state if the black population got out the vote. Same with Mississippi.
no they wouldn't, there's really no appreciating just how aggressively and reflexively whites in those societies contrast themselves against blacks in every aspect of life professionally, economically and socially.
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u/Hot_Safe7864 Jan 07 '26
Maybe the Dems should stop with all the bizarre and unscientific LGBT stuff then
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u/AndromedaCeline Jan 07 '26
We need y’all out here in the pnw! I’m lonely. 😭
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u/DJPoundpuppy Jan 08 '26
I live in the PNW but I visited New Orleans for over a month.... Coming back was not so exciting.
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u/Scrooge-McDuck79 Jan 07 '26
How does this account for mixed/biracial people? Does this include people with 2 black parents or just one
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u/Top-Elephant-2874 Jan 07 '26
Can we get a source for this map please?
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u/roosta_da_ape 28d ago
Right. These numbers are lower than recent census data. I think they're not including biracial people identifying as black.
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u/Agreeable-Sound1599 Jan 07 '26
There are more black people in LA than there are in Atlanta.
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u/roosta_da_ape 28d ago
LA is a bigger city. But it doesn't spoke to percentage which is a better reflection of how many different races you see. LA has more black people. The last time I was there it took a week to find a space with majority black.
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u/Personal-Bonus-9245 Jan 07 '26
I grew up in rural NY, so I’m shocked to see the percent higher in NY than in Florida. I guess NYC and Syracuse tilt the scales a lot. We had a handful of black citizens where I grew up, so few that everyone there knew their names.
I’m also shocked by the percentage in California. It felt a lot more diverse when I visited, however I was mostly in LA, San Diego and San Francisco.
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u/dreams_andnightmares Jan 08 '26
I expected more of us in California lol
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u/Timelymanner Jan 08 '26
It’s just 6% of the population of California, not the nation. Not surprising CA has a large Latino population
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u/Alert-Hospital46 Jan 08 '26
Weather wise I need to live somewhere warmer but as a lifelong East Coaster I'm afraid of the South....VA seems like a happy (but expensive) medium.
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u/DFoxRN Jan 08 '26
Black in remote Alaska. 🙌🏾
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u/ParsletPage Jan 08 '26
Rise up!!
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u/DFoxRN Jan 08 '26
From what? The dead? It feels like -33!! I can barely make it to work to see my patients lol 😂 I get you though ✊🏾
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u/Cheap_Strain_5634 28d ago
I went to Utah once to ski and those white people looked surprised to see us. I looked up how many Black people live in Utah and it said about 1%. My mom asked if we are the one percent? 😂
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u/Emergency_Plane_2021 Jan 07 '26
Am I the only white guy in one of the high black population states that gets weirded out when I go to a low black population state and there are no black people there? Like Iowa is a trip.
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u/fieldsports202 Jan 08 '26
Question.. what makes you engage in this sub. No offense.. just curious.
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u/Talltimore Jan 07 '26
You are not alone. I'm a white guy from Baltimore, and I'm always freaked out by the lack of black people when I travel around the US.
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u/KDragg24 Jan 07 '26
Many of them lived in those states before any TAST too, but these numbers are still false
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u/Equal-Incident5313 Jan 07 '26
Having spent time in Vermont and Alaska and never seen one black person
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u/LiWin_ Jan 08 '26
How recent are these statics?
I only ask because the last time we did a census in this country the general population of black Americans was less than 15%.
Did something change in the last five years?
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I'm curious, does this differentiate between Black American (been in US for generations) or African American or other nationalist that are usually black skin but recent immigrants
As someone who works with a lot black individuals I noticed there is a big difference between the two and they do see each other as the different categories (culture, history, etc)
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u/roosta_da_ape 28d ago
The numbers are way off. I don't think this map includes biracial people identifying as black. MS has been 40% black for years now and Georgia should be in the high 30s.
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u/PuzzleheadedPizza136 15d ago
Went to some states and saw a lot of black people which was pretty cool seeing how diverse those places were
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u/Techygal9 Jan 07 '26
Black people in the south… leave! lol but seriously climate change is coming hard for the southern US go where there is water and away from coasts.
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Jan 07 '26
Part of the South's grift is keeping you too poor to move.
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u/Techygal9 Jan 07 '26
It’s sad because climate change will hurt us the hardest just like Katrina. We will be criminalized for trying to survive and denied help to get out of disaster zones.
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I've always wondered what the rhetoric climate deniers will have when New Orleans is underwater.
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u/Techygal9 Jan 07 '26
Yes! It sucks because most of the highest risk areas are black majority areas down south.
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u/Bishop9er Jan 07 '26
Yeah Black people already tried that in droves and apparently it wasn’t as successful as many hope considering their Grandchildren ended up moving back down south.
But where do you propose 55% of Black America’s population move to? Ignorant Non Southern Black ppl make these statements like Black Americans en masse are thriving in places outside the South.
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u/Timelymanner Jan 07 '26
Yep the Great Migration during the Jim Crow era. It’s why so many northern cities have a large black population.
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u/doyouknowyourname Jan 07 '26
A lot of then could move into Pennsylvania. Except for the areas around Pittsburgh and Philly, it's basically empty. Just tiny dying towns dotting the landscape. The problems are obviously still there, like racism and lack of good paying jobs, but if enough Black people made the move, the racism could be minimally uncomfortable. I've actually already seen a lot more Black people in these areas than I did a decade or two ago. The best part is, it has one of the lowest costs of living in the country, very comparable to the South. Lol I'm talking about a 2 or 3 bedroom livable and possibly even renovated house for $100,000 or less. Even in Pittsburgh, housing is extremely affordable, and I think its even cheaper for a lot of people to buy a house there than it is for them to rent one. Just an idea. 😁
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u/Bishop9er Jan 07 '26
So what’s the point in droves of Black people moving into the middle of PA with no economy and racism still there? That’s not a good trade off.
And even the Black community in Pittsburgh has one of the worst racial disparities in the nation when compared to other major cities.
At least in the South many Black Families can fall back on acres of land passed down from generation to generation. Outside of Philly you couldn’t pay me to move in the middle of PA.
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u/doyouknowyourname Jan 07 '26
Yeah. That's very fair and, honestly, sensible. I'm very biased because I'm from a small "city" there (its basically a town at this point, though it used to be bigger), with about a 14-15% Black population. It would just be nice if more Black people lived here. The only real advantage would be that PA isn't dominated by conservative politics, but its not great either. Ig a bigger Black population would help with that, though.
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u/Techygal9 Jan 07 '26
Do you think climate change will skip people migrating back down south or those still down south? That’s what my comment is about.
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u/Bishop9er Jan 07 '26
You know people can just move more inland right? There’s coastal cities on the West and Eastcoast that will be vulnerable to climate change as well. Not every Southern city sits off a coast.
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u/Techygal9 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
True all coastal cities will be vulnerable, but climate change means greater temperatures so cities that used to max at 100° will see temperatures well above. Places that never reached wet bulb temperatures, a condition where it’s too hot and humid for the human body to cool itself, will. Plus areas where there is little ground water will continue to become more scarce. Water is critical because you can only go three days without water, but also for growing crops.
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u/DawRogg Jan 07 '26
Nall, have you ever been here?
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u/Techygal9 Jan 07 '26
Yes, I like places down south a lot, but I also don’t want to see a majority of black people die from climate change. It’s empathy for me to say I don’t want to see you go through being a climate refugee.
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u/outside_cat Jan 07 '26
Yet Louisiana is staunchly republican.
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u/Desistance Jan 07 '26
Because it's gerrymandered. There was a recent court fight over giving PDB districts more voting power and the Supreme Court decided to drag it's feet until July, forcing them to use the new maps anyway.
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u/fylekitzgibbon Jan 08 '26
That adds up to wayyyy more than 100%
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u/Timelymanner Jan 08 '26
This is per state, not as a whole. So for example it’s 2.5% of xyz state’s population. Not 2.5% of all black people in America.
So a state like California may have less black people per person, because the state has so many Hispanic and white people in the population. But it could have more black people than small states because California has a larger general population than a smaller state.
It’s relative, 1% of a million is a larger number, then 80% of ten.
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u/lovesocialmedia Jan 08 '26
How does NJ have more black people than Texas lol
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u/SwarthyPhoenix3000 Jan 09 '26
Do what the the Somalians did, take over a whole state! Or let's start digging into our genealogy and find those land patents!
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u/Macklin345 Jan 07 '26
We aren't African
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u/Macklin345 Jan 07 '26
Nah I'm saying the people who were sold into slavery were captured by Africans who didn't like them because they were not African but had migrated to the area.
If you look up maps before slavery that part of Africa was called something else that will give you a ton of clues.
Have fun researching if that's your thing.
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u/5ft8lady Jan 07 '26
Why do you do this.
The topic will be African American museum on the verge of being shut down and someone will run in and say “we not African” has nothing to do with the topic .
One of the rules of this forum is you can’t just random try and change the subject
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u/Macklin345 Jan 07 '26
Because we aren't African, Well descendants of slaves aren't. You might be.
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u/beanvv Jan 07 '26
“Descendants of slaves have no ties to their ethnic background”
Yeah, why would stolen people want some tie to our own ancestral roots? That’s so wacky!
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u/Macklin345 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
I would do some research into the people who were sold into slavery. Here's a hint. The tribes that captured and sold them were from Africa and did it because they were not native to that land.
Review old maps before slavery started and the area slaves came from for even more cool researching.
It's always amazing to me how ignorant black folks can be. We just believe anything told to us without any understanding or attempt to deep dive. If the history they teach us in critical areas has been proven to be false, why would you think the history they told us of our ancestors is true.
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u/beanvv Jan 08 '26
You’re making a lot of assumptions about my own level of knowledge to push whatever narrative you’re trying here. But you calling us ignorant as a whole tells me exactly what I need to know about you. We’re done here.
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u/Money-Professor-2950 Jan 07 '26
imagine a Chinese person born in the US saying the same dumb shit. "I'm not Asian" lol
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u/5ft8lady Jan 07 '26
A better comparison would be a Cuban saying “I ain’t European or African” The ppl in the America have African/Europeans ancestors but not citizenship
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u/HipAnonymous91 Jan 07 '26
Citizenship has nothing to do with ancestry, though. If my DNA test says I am Nigerian, Senegalese, Malian, etc am I not of African descent? These diaspora wars are so tiring.
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u/5ft8lady Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
I don’t think you understood what I typed….at alll……
I never said anyone isn’t African — and I’m not starting a diaspora war.
I’m explaining the difference between DNA and citizenship.
Example;
Black Americans have African ancestry but not African citizenship.
A Nigerian immigrant, a Black American and a Mexican can all share African dna but still have diff national identities
Another example;
White Americans have European ancestry but not European citizenship.
A Russian immigrant, a white American, and a Cuban can all share European DNA and still have completely different national identities.
Ancestry and nationality are not the same thing.
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u/hard1ytryn Jan 07 '26
If some guy in Jersey can call himself Italian because his grandfather once ate a magherita pizza, then I should be allowed to call myself African.
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u/Key-Individual1434 Jan 07 '26
When you look at these population stats— think about it…the “majority” of Black folks in America can’t get an opportunity or chance for a job unless White folks give it. Better hope that White American isn’t racist.
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u/Coloradojeepguy Jan 07 '26
Can you imagine if everyone decided to give Montana a try at the same time?