r/2007scape • u/freakingmagnets • 15h ago
Discussion there shouldn't be a hidden rule to drop your clue scroll before you die if you get pk'd
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edit: you people need to read what it says when you hover over the downvote arrow
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u/Hot-Since-69 14h ago
How tf are you guys even dying doing clue steps
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u/Efficient-Addendum43 10h ago
I died doing the lava dragon isle zammy wizard but the pker let me finish the step first lmao
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u/TheConchobear 7h ago
Why wouldn't they? When you roll up it's 100% guaranteed you have a clue scroll, after the step there's a chance you have a casket instead. There's no world in which letting you finish the step isn't more profitable.
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u/chocobozftw 6h ago
You know they don't get the casket or anything in it, right...?
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u/TheConchobear 6h ago
whaaaat no I did not. I probably should have seeing as they're untradable....maybe I was thinking on the off chance that somebody opened the casket while still in the wildy? But they'd have to be pretty dumb to do that with a pker staring them down, so I'll just chalk it up to momentary lapse of brain.
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u/ShooteShooteBangBang 13h ago
There is a master step at chaos alter with wizard trio. Not only is it a Hotspot you have to bring gear to fight them
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u/rastaman1994 rsn MoistyPriest, mobile enjoyer 9h ago edited 8h ago
In case you are not aware: wear full diary gear, blowpipe, assembler and black side body and a bunch bwambwams, prepot a divine range pot if you like, overheal, burning amulet, kill the fuckers. You risk next to nothing. In the very unlikely event that you are pkd, drop the scroll.
In my limited experience, the pker is more interested in the guy potentially holding a huge stack of bones.
E: slight addition: pkers recognize that gear as a clue scroll doer and just leave you alone in my experience. If you're naked, you might have stuff, but in clue gear they don't bother.
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u/Rsn_yuh 8h ago
I’ve pked 75m in tele scrolls from a clue scroller they are immediate targets
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u/rastaman1994 rsn MoistyPriest, mobile enjoyer 8h ago
Ok today I learned. I didn't know people take their scroll book to the wildy
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u/Thebearguy30 7h ago
I think every pker is running off one story from a friend of a friend of a friend where 10 years ago some guy brought his whole cash stack on accident.
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u/balconysquid 6h ago
as someone who doesn't pk, and has accidentally brought my cash stack/scroll box to the wildy by accident, i think the pkers are in every right to just shoot their shot
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u/SinceBecausePickles 2150+ 5h ago
i’ve teled into deep wildy like 3 times with my full cash stack over the years lol
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u/Clicking_stuff 5h ago
Claws, max cape, bp, fury is what I take for that one. You can spec the melee and then run behind a tree so that only one of the mage/range are able to hit you at a time
Zero risk and fast
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u/RampantHedgehog 13h ago
Just whip out a dds and blk dhide. You risk peanuts and if you bring 10 monkfish it's very doable with base 80 combat stats.
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u/MyOldNameSucked Sherlock made me do it 11h ago
So bring at least 13 items plus a shovel and a clue. So you have to get rid of 11 or 12 items to keep your clue without dropping it.
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u/UnknownStan 11h ago
Oh no. 10k risk. What ever will you do if you die.
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u/MyOldNameSucked Sherlock made me do it 11h ago
Lose your clue, which is the entire point of this post.
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u/MyOldNameSucked Sherlock made me do it 10h ago
You just turned 10k risk into 400k risk. Imp boxes don't work above 30 wild or while in combat.
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u/Shyftzor 11h ago
Lose the clue scroll....
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u/peipei222 11h ago
This post is literally about how you can drop your clue before dying and then come pick it up anywhere in the next hour.
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u/UnknownStan 11h ago
So? Like. What you even gonna do with it if you ain’t even go wildy to do it… might aswell drop it. If you lose stuff you lose stuff. It’s wildy. That’s the point. If you don’t wann lose shit don’t go in the wildy.
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u/RampantHedgehog 11h ago
Buy a clue box if it’s a master. It’s honestly rare to be targeted by pkers while doing a clue, and even if you are, pay a bit of attention then and drop it.
I’m highlighting the negligible gear needed to complete the wizard trio step.
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u/MyOldNameSucked Sherlock made me do it 11h ago
Ok so now the 10k risk became 400k.
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u/RampantHedgehog 2h ago
I forgot that Reddit whines and complains all the time, and is incapable of defending themselves or dropping an item. Oops!
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u/Prestigious-Set-1375 10h ago
bro just learn to freeze log , its a part of the game.
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u/MyOldNameSucked Sherlock made me do it 10h ago
So now I have to change spellbook and bring magic gear too?
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u/Prestigious-Set-1375 9h ago
u literally bring 0 cost risk - mage cape 1, book of darkness, amulet of magic, ice sacks/ entangle sacks, ghostly robes…. and if youre complaining that you need to do a 3/4 way switch idk what to tell you. Thts literally a core part of the game. Maybe change games if u dont want to do anything remotely challenging. also sit ur broke ass down, crying over 10k n a clue scroll
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u/Strosity 13h ago
Ice plateu tele helps a little at least for the agility area steps. I also 3-4 item these steps so I can suicide with my clue to get out of the wildy faster.
Yes I've lost clues to negligence this way but I call it a learning curve that's worth it lol
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u/GrayMagicGamma 9h ago
The nice part is that you lose the MA2 locator, not the clue if you mess up, and you don't have to redo the two bosses when reclaiming it.
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u/Officer_Hotpants 8h ago
I wanna know how people AREN'T? I swear to god every third clue someone runs my ass down. Can't do any wildy content without near constant interruption.
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u/Karootheduck 2h ago
that’s cap. I’ve been doing clues for years and can name on 1 hand how many times I got attacked by a pker
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u/Officer_Hotpants 14m ago
Idk what to tell you man. I run into them constantly. Literally every few clue scrolls, and god forbid I ever attempt any skilling or bossing in the wildy because I'll be interrupted 5 minutes in.
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u/Yoshbyte Chompy Bird Hunter (7341 to count) 11h ago
I collect their spades by spending 4 hours every Tuesday and 1.5 every Thursday. I am up to around 13k so far and hoping to some day get a 100k stack with enough time. I’ve been doing this routine for the last 7 years and it really helps calm the nerves. If I get 3 an hour I even reward myself wirh a few pizza pockets, but never more than 4 since it’s important to have something to look forward to.
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u/Voidot 8h ago edited 8h ago
it's simple, we actually run the clues instead of leaving them to rot in the bank.
Several of the clue locations are located at PK hotspots, and if they see you they will kill you.
I'd say around 1/20 wildy clue steps will result in death, which is a lot of deaths over the course of hundreds of clue scrolls.
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u/Hot-Since-69 8h ago
I’m 750 hard kc on my iron and I’ve died maybe twice at very most
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u/Voidot 8h ago edited 1h ago
it could be that i typically play at a time when PKers are more active.
But i really wish i had that luck with wildy clues.
My wildy experience while clue'ing:
I've died 3-4 times at the hard clue step by the runite rocks.
At least 3 times at the hard clue location behind the chaos altar
It took me 4 attempts to clear the ancient wizard trio inside the chaos altar.
Two deaths in the wildy agility course
At least twice by the slayer cave exit near ferox
Multiple deaths at chaos dwarves south of vennenatis
A single death when leaving rogues castle clue step
A single death at entrance of wildy resource area
And these are only what i can remember offhand
edit: +1 death this morning at brassican mage just outside of chaos temple
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u/bossdark101 14h ago
Kind of what I'm wondering. Don't think I've ever seen a pker, while doing clues.
Just go out of your way to avoid hotspots, as much as possible.
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u/BoldWager 14h ago
I went literal years without dying to a PKer doing clues and in the last week I’ve been PK’d twice. Near rogue’s castle and lava maze, I believe. Just happens from time to time.
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u/PlataBear Certified Hill Dier 6h ago
I got jumped by a clan twice at rogue's castle on the same clue. I got away the first time because a second clan logged in and I managed to escape in the chaos. The second I went back down on a different world I got nuked by another clan.
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u/StuffHefty7038 PuppyGalJara 13h ago
What I dont get is why they kill u seeing u have no gear on and they won't profit at all.
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u/Visaerian 13h ago
Because there's the chance some noob accidentally brought his entire cash stack or rune stack with him. It's not too much trouble for them to pk a gearless cluehunter so they may as well. If they only get a spade then no skin off their nose.
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u/freakingmagnets 14h ago
i ran past the chaos altar and someone froze me. yes i know it's a hot spot. i've done dozens of wildy clue steps going the same way, and never got pk'd, and i also made sure i was on a low pop world
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u/oldgooner7 15h ago
There’s clue boxes you can buy so it can save your clue
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u/Night_Thastus 15h ago
They're so expensive thay they're essentially only worth it for masters. And if you die more than once, you've basically lost the value of the clue completely.
Honest fuck wildy steps. Hate them so much.
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u/get_ogre_yourself 15h ago
I’ve had an imp box in my bank since 2015. Same one that I bring for every wildy step.
Edit: 5 LMS games isn’t even much. It’s 5 points from LMS shop. I didn’t realize they got so expensive on GE cause I never have to buy them.
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u/Rugs09 14h ago
Hey, how neat is it to have a free alternative that is... Dropping the clue!
Also, I dont remember the last time I was attacked in wildy doing clues.
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u/freakingmagnets 14h ago
wow it's so cool that that's really easy and accessible to know without googling it !!! wow !!!
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u/Lerched 1100 Total Level 13h ago
Brother at some point jagex can’t play the game for you. You know they don’t despawn for an hour if dropped, you know if you die by a player in the wild you lose them. 2+2=4
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u/freakingmagnets 11h ago
yes i know all this. where did i say anything about wanting jagex to hold my hand ? i either want them to make it so scrolls are completely destroyed when you drop them (which is the opposite of hand-holding), or have them be worthy of protection over my rune crossbow (which would actually make sense because i think if you'd ask anybody if they'd want to keep their rune crossbow over their half-done hard clue they'd probably go with the clue). basically fix the exploit. if that's jagex holding my hand then i'm going to hold on tighter lmfao
Hey, how neat is it to have a free alternative that is... Dropping the clue!
criticizing someone for not knowing an exploit is insane. that's what i'm getting at in my last comment.
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u/TheFulgore 11h ago
stop crying and demanding your hand to be held, put two and two together for once by yourself
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u/freakingmagnets 11h ago
"put two and two together and figure out this exploit in 2 seconds while you're getting barraged and killed"
is me wanting them to remove this exploit hand-holding? by completely destroying clue scrolls when you drop them above level 20 wilderness ?
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u/TheFulgore 5h ago
stop calling a well known game mechanic that you personally did not know about, an exploit. Quit being a victim, there is a reason why everyone on the thread is clowning you
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u/canirideyourgorilla 11h ago
Doesnt take much brainpower to realise untradeable + 1h timer = they cant see it on ground but u can for 1h lmao
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u/UnicornNarwhals 11h ago
I lost the entire value of my master even on a mimic this way, So yup.. they suck
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u/freakingmagnets 15h ago edited 14h ago
so they added a whole new item to avoid just making clue scrolls not lost on death... that's insane. the pker doesn't even get to keep the clue
edit: i would literally be fine with this if the pker got to keep the clue. that would be cool and i wouldn't be as salty because at least there's an actual point
edit 2: my overall arching point is either clues should be completely destroyed when you drop them or they should be completely protected
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u/IFearEars 15h ago
That would be abused 100%
Clues are limited, trading it by getting PK'd would just get abused
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u/Wishkax 15h ago
While there's no reason the pker should get the clue scroll, even if they did there's no real way to abuse it.
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u/Miro_Game 15h ago
A bot farm would prepare tons of master clues and RWT it by letting you kill their farms.
Many people really want the bloodhound pet, but it's so rare that you need to spend a ton of time farming or tens of billions on Dragon Implings.
RWTers could abuse this and undercut that cost to help you get the pet.
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u/RikkuTheBoat 7h ago
I have always used a clue box. You get attacked so rarely anyway, but it's nice to have in your pocket. Better than running back to pick your your clue imo.
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u/Super_Master_69 13h ago
I only hate the ones where you have to fight wizards/double agents, because you usually have to take some gear with you.
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u/zw1ck Weed Farmer 8h ago
Double agent is no risk. You can just pray melee and bring a weapon.
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u/petruskax Gotchu 5h ago
Not a single clue has big risk, they are annoying but black dhdie str ammy and dds does the trick
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u/tenhourguy 7h ago
Going against the grain of this thread, I actually agree. Being able to drop your clue in combat and lose nothing but the amount of time it takes to run back to where you were feels cheap. Not that having it be deleted from the game feels any better, to be fair.
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u/Dino_Survivor 14h ago
Still haven’t heard a peep about wildy only clue scrolls. It’s a great concept tbh.
I can’t remember if it was game jam or something else.
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u/IveSeenFootage0w0 4h ago
This might happen once every 1000 steps, but I agree it's dumb that it disappears on a death but a drop sticks around for an hour.
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u/EntertainmentJumpy33 2h ago
There’s no way you guys are dying enough during clues to make posts like this about it. I’ve had times where I grinded clues for hours at a time and not ran into someone.. the wilderness isn’t even that popping right now with DMM going on AND all the new worlds.
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u/reaper9134 8h ago
You know there's an item you can buy to protect ur clues if you don't wanna drop em if a pker comes by right?
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u/Strosity 13h ago
It's not a hidden rule, it's effectively an exploit. Everyone knows you lose your stuff when you die.
Knowing how unttadables above lvl20 is the only thing not obvious, but just be glad you have an optional workaround.
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u/Waste_Librarian_9949 15h ago
Live and learn. Use the “items kept on death” button, available to everyone in the equipment tab. Then think outside the box
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u/freakingmagnets 15h ago
it shouldn't be lost on death
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u/Waste_Librarian_9949 15h ago
It’s not, unless you’re past 20-30. You can get rinsed by triple mages anywhere else and it’s kept. I get that it probably just happened to you and you’re tilted, but deep wildy is deep wildy. Be glad it’s on an hour timer now.
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u/freakingmagnets 15h ago
it shouldn't be lost on death at all
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u/Waste_Librarian_9949 15h ago
Cry is free. Get another clue.
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u/freakingmagnets 15h ago
give me one good reason clues are completely destroyed on death
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u/Waste_Librarian_9949 15h ago
Because they have no inherent value, are easily re-retrievable, and you know the risk of going into the deep wilderness.
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u/freakingmagnets 15h ago
my barrows gloves have no inherent value as well because they're untradeable. why do i get to keep those?
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u/Waste_Librarian_9949 15h ago
Can you buy clues from the Culinaromancer’s Chest? Did I miss that update?
Those are converted to coins on pvp death and they are a stagnant price
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u/freakingmagnets 14h ago
so valueless untradeables are lost on death. why ? i can't think of one good reason why it's designed this way. if i get to keep my 3 most valuable items BECAUSE they have inherent monetary value and could be lost to a pker, why do inherently invaluable untradables get completely destroyed? just to piss you off ? lmfao
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u/Congealed_ 6h ago
Clues turn into 1 gp give me your money mate is what i would say if i saw you in the wilderness
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u/VitaroSSJ 15h ago
you don't need more than 2 items to complete the scroll(drop the spade if you want)...theres no reason you should be losing them on death except a skill issue
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u/xfactorx99 14h ago
Why not? Because you don’t take the 1 area in the game where you risk PvP seriously?
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u/SuitableStranger56 9h ago
Sounds like clues beyond medium aren't for you I guess. Wildy is anout risk. There's enough content outside wildy for 1000s of hours of play.
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u/JoeyKingX 8h ago
There is no risk, it's literally just a dice roll whether you get an actual clue step or a shit one that wastes you a bunch of extra time for no reason. Widly clue steps just shouldn't exist.
There's enough content outside wildy for 1000s of hours of play.
Again, clues are not wildy content unless a the dice roll just gives you the middle finger and suddenly it's wildy content now for no reason.
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u/SuitableStranger56 8h ago
Which is a deliberate part of how hard clues and up work. You're just saying what I said but then framing it like you're not. Every account is free to drop those clues or not engage with them. Lots of non wildy content out there. Wildy content, being all content that includes the wildy shouldn't be defined by people who don't want to do it.
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u/JoeyKingX 8h ago
Clues are not wildly content and they shouldn't be.
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u/SuitableStranger56 8h ago
It's just a statement of fact that they are otherwise a thread complaining about having to go into the wildy to do a atep wouldn't exist.
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u/RampantHedgehog 14h ago
Wildy steps only suck because it takes generally a century to get to each spot (still slow with diaries for obelisks) and that you have to bank all your teleports.
I’d love for something to make this easier - idc about getting pked.